Suggestions for improvements (New forum)

[AKM sama]

So there's a problem with the new video advertisements that pop up here every now and then

For one, the close button doesn't work on mobile. No matter how many times I tap it even when magnified, it won't go away

The second problem is that the video itself has a habit of blocking the close buttons of other ads, making them also uncloseable. This has forced me to reload several times and is really making mobile difficult

It's even worse with those ads that need to be shrunk down once before they can be closed

Are you and other users still facing this issue?

 

[Peppersalt43]

Are you and other users still facing this issue?

Yes

 

[Excellence616]

Are you and other users still facing this issue?

Yes

 

[Antvasima]

I have mentioned it to AKM and will also tell our system manager.

 

[Minion_of_Pigsaw]

I don't know if this is the right place to suggest this, since this is about the wiki and not the forum, but it'd be nice if the "Characters by X" categories were moved to the top of the "Characters" category, to make it easier to categorize profiles.

 

[Antvasima]

That is already the case as far as I can see.

 

[Antvasima]

Also, our system manager would like our members to provide more screenshots of the badly placed advertisements.

 

[Minion_of_Pigsaw]

That is already the case as far as I can see.

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I don't know how to paste images in this forum, but mine has a "Trending pages" section instead of the "Subcategories" one. Maybe it's because you're an administrator?

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Also, our system manager would like our members to provide more screenshots of the badly placed advertisements.

Would this be any helpful?

Spoiler

Usually, this advertisement appears right at the very end of the page, but as soon as I scroll up that advertisement, it converts into a floating window.

 

[Antvasima]

@TWILIGHT-OP @Excellence616 @Peppersalt43 @NHTkenshin2 @TheGreatJedi13 @Reiner04 @BlackeJan

Our system manager wants me to ask you the following questions:

"Are there any overlap issues with the bottom ads?

Is anyone failing to close the ads?

Please, ask for screenshots."

 

[Reiner04]

"Are there any overlap issues with the bottom ads?

There are multiple adds at the bottom yeah.

Is anyone failing to close the ads?

They do sometimes not close and if closed, they re-appear in no time.

I'll send SS as soon as I reach home (prolly in hour).

 

[Reiner04]

The condition w/o an additional blocker while typing is basically this.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

That x button still not working for me , and it's still getting in floating window thingy.

 

[Reiner04]

That x button still not working for me , and it's still getting in floating window thingy.

For me it works and not works sometimes but barely matters since it reappears in no time. It's kind of annoying.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you very much for your replies.

I will inform our system manager about this.

 

[BlackeJan]

@TWILIGHT-OP @Excellence616 @Peppersalt43 @NHTkenshin2 @TheGreatJedi13 @Reiner04 @BlackeJan

Our system manager wants me to ask you the following questions:

"Are there any overlap issues with the bottom ads?

Is anyone failing to close the ads?

Please, ask for screenshots."

I can close the ads and yeah when I’m typing the bottom ad is in the way so I cannot see the words

 

[Antvasima]

Hmm. That isn't good at all. I will mention it to our system manager.

 

[BlackeJan]

For me it works and not works sometimes but barely matters since it reappears in no time. It's kind of annoying.

Really? Mines stopped doing th-oh it came back then disappeared nevermind

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Any update on the Ads.
It's still relatively laggy that my entire Browser freezes even when I'm loading the site while on another tab.

 

[Antvasima]

I have informed our system manager and the forum site owner, and they have contacted our new advertisement provider in turn. We are currently waiting for responses.

 

[Bobsican]

As I'm noticing activity on the forum has been declining a bit lately, may I suggest the idea to reward active contributors with some of the Patreon benefits? If this mere premise can be considered I can help elaborating in further detail what kind of contributions are counted.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, that would remove the entire point of helping out with our expenses, and also be too complicated to manage, so it does not seem like a good idea. My apologies.

 

[Bobsican]

Well, it really depends on if it's desirable to keep active users, as things currently stand a ton of stuff gets in hiatus for months (or even forever) as there's little incentive to stay for long.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Patreon already only has a handful of benefits that are generally on the larger side (like the ad-free experience). Higher tiered benefits might work.

If we just want recognition of presence (and perhaps to throw in a friendly little competition of the whole thing), perhaps a new title on the forum that restarts at the 1st of every month for top contributors? I don't know how feasible this is, but if the concern is "people might visit less", then having the top contributing person get a title like "Monthly Top Contributor", and perhaps the next five or ten below that get "Monthly Gold Contributor", seems like a harmless way of perhaps addressing that. Our usual rules of spam apply so I see little harm in that.

I like the core idea, at least, of offering something to the most contributing members, whether there is a perceived drop in visits or not.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Yeah, a title sounds like a very good idea. Especially if it's something like the top contributers each month. While it doesn't grant any benefits it add a new element towards the site that will make it more engaging. The title dosen't need to bring any real benefits, other then ""reputation"" that it will given due to the acknoweldegment of owning that title.

Just one question. Would active mean most edits? Most profile creation? most messages? Most CRT's? ect.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Probably just forum edits, I figure. Again, I don't know how viable it is, but I know for sure that having it track forum edits is a lot more viable than having something automatically track page creations on what is technically an entirely separate website (that is, the wiki).

 

[Bobsican]

Probably just forum edits, I figure. Again, I don't know how viable it is, but I know for sure that having it track forum edits is a lot more viable than having something automatically track page creations on what is technically an entirely separate website (that is, the wiki).

There's already a feature in the wiki itself to track multiple sorts of edits per user, ideally it'd be just a matter of asking users to submit themselves once they meet a certain amount while remaining active in the last 3 months or so.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, this suggestion sits badly with my intended ideals of quality over quantity, but maybe we could give temporary Bronze tier Patreon badges to members who significantly help out with wiki or forum tasks in significantly productive and useful manners instead?

@AKM sama @DontTalkDT

What do you think?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Personally, I think it should have a different badge than Patreon. I think it should just be friendly competition, rather than tacking on a reward that otherwise costs about five bucks a month.

 

[Antvasima]

A "Good Contributor"/"Good Member" badge, for members who behave well and constructively and competently help out, then?

 

[DontTalkDT]

maybe we could give temporary Bronze tier Patreon badges to members who significantly help out with wiki or forum tasks in significantly productive and useful manners instead?

Isn't that what we usually reward by offering staff position?
Given, if there's ever a project we recruit non-staff members for or something like that I wouldn't mind.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, potential staff members should be helpful, competent, and reliable in combination, not just helpful.

 

[Bobsican]

In a similar note, is there any plans to do more labels for staff roles? More specifically, it's difficult to tell the respective staff position for users that mod more than one site (say, FC/OC VSBW or JBW), so having something more specific such as "VS Battles Administrator", "VS Battles Thread Moderator" and so on would be ideal.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Well, potential staff members should be helpful, competent, and reliable in combination, not just helpful.

I suppose that's true.

A "Good Contributor"/"Good Member" badge, for members who behave well and constructively and competently help out, then?

This would sound fine for me then.

 

[Antvasima]

In a similar note, is there any plans to do more labels for staff roles? More specifically, it's difficult to tell the respective staff position for users that mod more than one site (say, FC/OC VSBW or JBW), so having something more specific such as "VS Battles Administrator", "VS Battles Thread Moderator" and so on would be ideal.

I have already asked AKM about collaborating with our system moderator to fix that problem, but he is very busy IRL nowadays, so he has not had the time to fix the problem in question yet.

I suppose that's true.

This would sound fine for me then.

Thank you. Let's wait to see what AKM thinks first though.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

I was wondering if it's possible to have a option like this on wiki too? I have seen this option on several other wiki.

 

[Bobsican]

I was wondering if it's possible to have a option like this on wiki too? I have seen this option on several other wiki.

Well, that'd require having multiple dedicated teams to manually translate everything on the site, which isn't really plausible considering the large amount of content, and there's far higher priorities on using translations skills to get evaluable content to rate on profiles.

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Bobsican.

 

[Bobsican]

I think it may be worth considering to add the feature of doing polls in the OPs of threads, namely so users can just click at the top of a thread whether they agree, disagree or are neutral, to ease vote tracking.

Of course the users in question would have to post a valid reasoning behind their vote (even if just a "FRA"), rather than just blindly following votes, but this'd overall be easier to track than manually reading every single post in a thread, especially for large ones given the XenForo limitations in place for the sake of ads.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It sounds good on paper, but in execution; others could agree with some parts but disagree with others. And it might be a bad idea for staff threads regarding massive changes to our tiering system; given threads like that are often reserved for staff votes. And it could be cluttered if there is a mass vote from regular users that contradict what Bureaucrats and a multitude of higher up Admins agree with.