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Suggestions for improvements (New forum)

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This thread is for members to list their suggestions to improve the VS Battles wiki. We cannot promise you that all your suggestions will be incorporated for certain, but they will be sincerely considered for implementation.

Feedback is welcome and much appreciated.
 
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I would like the feature on the new forum to have more reaction options than just "Like".
While "Dislike" has already been denied with a good reason and all before, I would like to see other reaction options such as "Love", "Wow" and maybe even "Sad"
 
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Very well then.

Anyways, I would like if the search feature allowed to filter by the category(ies) on each thread.

And are there any plans to support .gif files for pictures?
 
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@Darkmon_cns

I do not think that we can search by thread length alone.

It is still possible to state the reason for closing in a post before doing so.

@CrimsonStarFallen

I do not know what to do about that. Sorry. Also, it make little sense that one layout should work worse than the other.
 
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I'm not sure if this is already a feature, but image-banner for signature, something like how myanimelist has them, i.e. an image 150px by 600px. This way the image signatures won't be too big to just clog the thread.
 
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Are there any plans to make an entire sub-forum section archive for threads that were made in May 2020 and before?
It would help a lot to greatly decrease necroing in here, while also keeping such threads intact for posterity.

It would also be nice if a feature that allows to know if a thread has received a new reply while you are in it, allowing to update it without needing to copy/paste your post, that would help a lot to keep discussion smooth, and yes, this is something XenForo can support.
 
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The 3 wikis should probably have separate 'what's new' areas, i keep runing into FCOC posts looking for stuff just from VS battles and vice versa
 
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The Ignore feature does seem odd. Would it get in the way of discussions on Vs Threads and CRTs?
Only ant or another staff member would be able to say how it works, so I guess we should probably wait, this thread is being a bit flooded on this topic, I suppose it would be good to know how people feel on it?
 
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They are free to do so. I'm just worried about the mess it could cause if the Ignore feature prevents others from seeing constructive conversations in a discussion during a future CRT.
 
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Personally, i love it. There's just people that don't work together, and i'd much rather not see them than have a heated argument.

Besides, they can always open ignored posts if needed.
 
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Hold on, I am going to quickly use the feature on you to test it out then unignore you. I have no intention to use it in the future, but I want to be able to educate others if I need to.
 
Can the logos be easier to see? I typed in fc/oc and in whats new, you can see in what wiki was a post or comment made, buts its really hard to see
 
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The ignore feature is still kinda rude to do. If someone is annoying to you, ask them to stop or report them if necessary. All it will do is drive people further apart and encourage people to act unprofessionally.
 
I mean it would help with people not wanting to deal with certain people. I can see not wanting to ignore staff members as they can give warnings so ppl dont think they can act freely.
 
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Again, if said person is really annoying, it’s either minor enough you can politely ask them to stop, or Major enough it’s report worthy.
 
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We'd also don't want Staff members to ignore regular users so there would be another connection between the two groups. That said, Staff members are humans too and any situation could lead them to wanting to ignore someone.

Also, thinking about it, ignoring someone instead of reporting them could lead to trouble users to staying around longer then they normally would.

Edit: Ok ok, we can move on.
 
Thats the thing though, you wanna get rid of somebody when they can just prob ignore certain people that can trigger them. That could calm certain people down, or keep them along longer than they should. But an obvious ban worthy person is an obvious ban worthy person

Edit: Ok move on lol
 
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We can see a equivalence to a 'most recent wall posts' on the whats new borde, well that's not new What I think is a problem is that we can like posts from there, I already accidently liked a random post, I'm not sure how many people mainly use mobile but if that happens often it could be annoying
 

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I just realized this thread existed
Can there be an "Auto-Refresh" option in the latest activity page, like FANDOM wikis have with their "Recent Changes" pages?
 

Antvasima

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There are limits to how much we can fix swiftly in the new forum, especially given how extremely overworked I am right now.

Anyway, Bobsican, we have been running a project to back up the important threads after May 10 to archive.vn for a while now, and I will create a pinned thread with a list of all of them afterwards.
 
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Oh no, I didn't meant that, but more like this, for example, or in other words, basically organizing the threads that were made in May and before on their own forum section, and locked so they are only around for posterity, as we all know currently a lot of threads are getting necro'd otherwise.

Also, a feature to automatically merge posts if they are a victim of double-posting and so on would be nice.
 
I think most of the threads are kinda too spacious and large. They should be more compressed and smaller to look more organized and clean. The only examples of what I mean by another site that uses Xenforo is Spacebattles...

For some examples.
Example #1 (mobile version of example #1)
Example #2 (mobile version of example #2)

I'm only saying is having things be more compressed and smaller, like the examples I gave, would help this site look more organized and clean.
 

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@Bobsican

I do not think that it is realistic or productive at all to move all of our old threads to extra retired sub-forums. Necroing of old threads is unfortunately likely something that we will have to live with, and close them when it happens.

It is uncommon with double-posts, and the extra ones can easily be removed if it happens.
 

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Our old forum allowed up to 500 posts per page, whereas this one only allows 100. I think that the current layout gives a much better overview than just 20 posts per page, for example.
 
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That sounds like something a bot could cover, but it would require a CRT for the Standard Format for Character Pages and the Standard Format for Verse Pages, so it would be best to keep that for once CRTs are allowed, or at the very least once the other site-wide revisions are done.
Speaking of that, it would also be nice if such tags could also link back to the respective page on the wiki, if avaiable, but as said before, it would be best to keep that for a better date.
 
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@Crimson_Shadow101

That is actually an excellent idea to increase the visitor statistics for this forum. Thank you.

However, we have around 24,000 character profile pages, so it does not seem realistic to immediately add such links to all of them at once.

Maybe we could initiate a project for adding such links to the verse pages and our most popular character profile pages to start with, adjust the layout instructions in our Standard Format pages, and then make the changes gradually?

It is much better if you start a thread in our staff forum for this instead though, as we cannot handle such a massive project here.
 
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It would be nice if on the main page, the VSBW forum section was marked with some shade of blue (And a darker one in Night Mode), JBW was in a shade of purple and FC/OC VSBW had a shade of green.

This would help a lot to avoid the constant mix-up users have been doing between the sites.
 

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Maybe later, but we need to handle more concrete problems right now, and not experiment too much.
 
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Well, it would help to avoid needless work on moving threads from one forum to another, but it isn't an high priority at the moment, yes.
 

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Just to clarify, are the Joke Battles and FC/OC VS Battles text boxes the only things that should be recoloured? If so, that should be quite simple to handle, but I am not sure if it would fit with the overall theme of the forum.
 
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Well, I had in mind for the colors on the text and the respective slightly darker blue background for it (Specifically the one for General Discussion, for example, compared to the main background) being edited accordingly to be fitting too, so with a bit more work it should be plausible.
 
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It's always confused me that both of these links lead to the exact same page (the forum hub page)

Wouldn't it be better if 'Home' lead directly to the wiki itself?
 


It's always confused me that both of these links lead to the exact same page (the forum hub page)

Wouldn't it be better if 'Home' lead directly to the wiki itself?
Or maybe keep that the home button leads to the forum home and add another button named wiki that leads to the wiki. I think that would be better.
 

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Well, I had in mind for the colors on the text and the respective slightly darker blue background for it (Specifically the one for General Discussion, for example, compared to the main background) being edited accordingly to be fitting too, so with a bit more work it should be plausible.
Me and AKM talked about this earlier, and decided that recolouring parts of the front page would not work with the overall theme. Sorry.
 


It's always confused me that both of these links lead to the exact same page (the forum hub page)

Wouldn't it be better if 'Home' lead directly to the wiki itself?
Not to mention clicking the Vs Battles Wiki logo on the banner does the same thing, so that's three buttons right next to each other that all lead to the same place.
 

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I could ask our system administrator to link our icon in the upper left corner of the forum directly to the wiki itself, if other staff members think that it is a good idea.
 
I have suggestion. If mods can make posts and then bookmark them on top of the forum section, I would suggest doing that for the Content Revision section to stop people from making CR threads right now.

If you can't, then just ignore this.
 

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We can stick threads at the top of the sub-forums, but I do not think that it seems necessary in this case.
 

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Our system administrator has fixed our settings so clicking the VS Battles Wiki icon in the upper left corner leads to the wiki, and clicking the "Forums" button only opens the list of options below, rather than lead to the front page of this forum.

The "Home" button still leads to our forum's front page.
 

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Maybe later, if one of our administrators is willing to do all of the required work, but I am too busy right now to handle it myself.
 
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I'm receiving e-mails about this forum despite the fact that I don't want to receive any and I turned off all the email options under preferences as well as the content options of receiving email notifications.
 
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Now we have feature to follow specific User but can we follow specific Topic? Example like you follow Topic for one particular verse, it would make supporter of the verse easier to notice new thread like CRT which need their presence.
 
For some reason it appears every time a new page is created in a thread due to the amount of messages, I stop getting alerts for that said thread unless I comment again on it. This has happened to me twice now. I did not unwatch the thread either time yet it stopped giving me alerts. No idea if this is just happening to me or anyone else.
 

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I do not have the problem, but I think that it might be a good idea if you send a private message to @sultan our system administrator in this case, and describe the problem to him.

Others should definitely not do so unless I give them clearance though.
 
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What about a thread where people can ask an evaluation for a profile, a page, a blog etc... they are making? Or even ask for help or suggestions to improve their work in progress
 
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On the wiki we have a section at the lower end of the pages where we can see discussions from the wiki's forum relating to the page's topic. Would it be possible to set up something similar with the new forum?
 
That was suggested earlier. It would require a CRT to the standard layout for profiles and pages guidelines, but there are more important stuff that need to be handled before we can get to that.
 

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It is an excellent suggestion though, but it would require a massive wiki revision project, so we are waiting with it until later.
 
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In the reactions page, more values should be given to the timeframes. As currently, the abundance of zeros is difficult to work with. I believe we should have some standard form and scientific notation values on the page.
 
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In the reactions page, more values should be given to the timeframes. As currently, the abundance of zeros is difficult to work with. I believe we should have some standard form and scientific notation values on the page.
I think it would be enough to make it similar to the Speed page with the notation that is used for the higher Speed levels.
 
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In the reactions page, more values should be given to the timeframes. As currently, the abundance of zeros is difficult to work with. I believe we should have some standard form and scientific notation values on the page.
Normal Human perception: 0.2 - 0.129 seconds

Athletic Human perception: 0.129 - 0.102 seconds

Peak Human perception: 0.102 - 8e-2 seconds

Superhuman perception: 8e-2 - 2.91e-2 seconds

Subsonic perception: 2.91e-2 - 5.83e-3 seconds

Subsonic+ perception: 5.83e-3 - 3.2e-3 seconds

Transonic perception: 3.2e-3 - 2.65e-3 seconds

Supersonic perception: 2.65e-3 - 1.17e-3 seconds

Supersonic+ perception: 1.17e-3 - 5.8e-4 seconds

Hypersonic perception: 5.8e-4- 2.94e-4 seconds

Hypersonic+ perception: 2.94e-4 - 1.17e-4 seconds

High Hypersonic perception: 1.17e-4 - 5.88e-5 seconds

High Hypersonic+ perception: 5.88e-5 - 2.94e-5 seconds

Massively Hypersonic perception: 2.94e-5 - 2.94e-6 seconds

Massively Hypersonic+ perception: 2.94e-6 - 3.336e-7 seconds

Sub-Relativistic perception: 3.336e-7 - 6.67e-8 seconds

Sub-Relativistic+ perception: 6.67e-8 - 3.336e-8 seconds

Relativistic perception: 3.336e-8 - 6.67e-9 seconds

Relativistic+ perception: 6.67e-9 - 3.336e-9 seconds

Speed of Light perception: 3.336e-9 seconds

FTL perception: 3.336e-9 - 3.336e-10 seconds

FTL+ perception: 3.336e-10 - 3.336e-11 seconds

Massively FTL perception: 3.336e-11 - 3.336e-12 seconds

Massively FTL+ perception: Anything less than 3.336e-12 seconds
 
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Can we make the OP post visible on any page for long thread? Kind of tedious having to go back and forth to see the OP.
 

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I agree scientific notation on the reaction speed page might be easier to understand.
 
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Maybe make the same for Stamina page finally? There is no way to gauge it, but the page should at least provide keys and at least some guidelines. (Stamina is all over the place, honestly).
 

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Here is my old Stamina levels draft, but it was outvoted, as stamina means several different things, and we definitely do not have the time to apply such a massive revision right now anyway.

"Below Average - Characters equivalent to real world out of shape or feeble humans, who will tire even after simple exertion.

Average - Characters with stamina comparable to regular real world humans, such as unathletic inviduals who will tire after brief periods of exertion.

Above Average - Characters that are capable of intense exertion for prolonged periods of time, such as athletic, highly trained, or generally physically very fit individuals.

Peak Human - Characters whose stamina have reached the upper limits of human capabilities, such as Olympic level athletes.

Superhuman - Characters whose stamina have reached beyond the maximum real world human level.

High Superhuman - Characters who can exert themselves continuously to extreme degrees for more than a day.

Metahuman - Characters who can exert themselves continuously to extreme degrees for more than a month.

High Metahuman - Characters who can exert themselves continuously to extreme degrees for more than a year.

Godlike - Characters who can exert themselves continuously to extreme degrees for more than a century.

Infinite - Characters who can exert themselves continuously at peak performance for infinite periods of time.

Take note that different types of stamina should preferably be listed and explained."
 

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Stamina is too complicated to have that many keys, and for the most part it's based more on intensity rather than timeframes. And some game boss characters have "Massive pools of HP" being their only notable stamina feat. So we basically just say add descriptions. Though Limitless stamina is the only category that does have a very specific case.
 

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Well, it would be good if we worked out some set standards for stamina, similarly to Intelligence, but we definitely do not have the time to apply such a massive revision at this point, and other, more important, wiki revisions are greatly prioritised.
 
I would like to get system notifications on my phone if i get a reaction on my threads or someone posted something on my wall. Is a notificationsystem that sends you a notification on your phone possible....
 

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You can change your personal system settings to allow emails to be sent to your account, which can work for popup notifications on a gmail app for your phone, for example, but it turns very distracting when you follow lots of threads and/or get many wall messages.
 
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