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Could it be applied here in the new forum?
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As AKM said, Ant probably asked the fandom higher-ups (I guess?) if it can be applied here.
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Could it be possible to add a feature on the forum that triggers PC desktop notifications whenever it's the case? It would make conversations more effective without having to sit around here all day, and I've seen other XenForo-based forums with this kind of feature before.
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I did ask them about it repeatedly, but the suggestion was very unfortunately rejected, so I am currently stuck sending several of them myself daily whenever I notice new members editing in the wiki.
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Why should we have automatic messages here, and what should they say?
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What do you mean?
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This kind of notifications, like, operative systems like Windows 10 support desktop notifications, which I would find useful here to get a quick pop-up whenever I get any sort of notification on the forum.
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Anyway, I suppose that a regular dismissable in-forum popup notification for new members that links to our wiki welcome message instruction page could be an idea. I could technically set that up on my own, but it depends on what @AKM sama @Promestein @DontTalkDT and @DarkDragonMedeus think about the idea.
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I mean, it would be an optional feature, those that don't desire it can just turn it off.
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Push notifications are too intrusive, especially given that we already unfortunately have to annoy our members with advertisements to finance the running of this forum, and most of said members wouldn't know how to disable the notifications. My apologies, but your suggestion is rejected.
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Well, it would direct the new members to the welcome message instead of having you do it yourself. Though already existing members shouldn't get the message.
As for what it would say, maybe something along the lines of "Welcome to the community. (This is the title so it would be bigger than the following) Please visit/read the following page to become a productive member of the wiki and to better familiarize yourself with the community."
Edit: We could also just use the message you send to new members since they're pretty well written as well.
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I only know how to give popup messages to people who are logged in, people who are not logged in, or both at the same time, and do not think that there is a setting for including new members only.
However, I could word it in something similar to the following manner:
All new members, please read the following page for instructions regarding how to become a productive member of this community:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Welcome_Message
All members could then easily dismiss it.
However, I could word it in something similar to the following manner:
All new members, please read the following page for instructions regarding how to become a productive member of this community:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Welcome_Message
All members could then easily dismiss it.
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True, but I have a feeling that they might complain about suddenly getting a notification when they're already knowledgeable of the community.
Edit: Maybe you could also just let a bot send the messages?
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I see, well, that's unfortunate. Well, I'm not against that idea either as long as it doesn't bother other members since I'd like to avoid having them complain to staff members about it.
At any rate, I agree with your idea.
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Okay. I will wait a bit for confirmations from @Promestein @DontTalkDT and @DarkDragonMedeus before I apply this suggestion though.
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I agree the automatic messaging is a good idea; like the very informative message from Promestein that used to come up shortly after any user's very first wiki contribution.
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Yes, but Fandom does not allow those wiki messages anymore, despite that I have repeatedly asked them about it.
We thought that a popup message in this forum could possibly be similarly helpful though.
We thought that a popup message in this forum could possibly be similarly helpful though.
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yeah tell fandom to **** themselves, this forum should be a place where you're unbound by fandom rules
popup message in the forum sounds good. What about an introduction forum?
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Fandom has been very charitable to us in allowing us to have this forum in the first place, although we have to try to live up to their standards here as well. We likely have a bit more leeway though, but not overly so.
An introduction forum is not necessary, as we already have lots of wiki instruction pages.
An introduction forum is not necessary, as we already have lots of wiki instruction pages.
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How and why?
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We still have the automated welcome, right? Why do we need the message banner? Not necessarily against it, but
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Probably the biggest thing I've seen is people making threads in the wrong subforum.
Like people making threads intended for VSB on the FC/OC subforums.
These couple of threads being a fine example.
Maybe adding descriptors like "Questions and Answers (VSB)" "Questions and Answers (FC/OC)" or "Questions and Answers (JBW)" would help with that.
Like people making threads intended for VSB on the FC/OC subforums.
These couple of threads being a fine example.
Maybe adding descriptors like "Questions and Answers (VSB)" "Questions and Answers (FC/OC)" or "Questions and Answers (JBW)" would help with that.
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What about when on a thread, you can see peoples pfp when they are on that thread? 
... Which makes it easier to know who to reply or respond to?
That's quite a weak idea from monkey 
I'm supposed to be above genius 
... Which makes it easier to know who to reply or respond to? I'm supposed to be above genius
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make all the sub forums a exact copy and paste of each other, and label them like john said
no extra channels no nothing
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Hmm. Are the administrators and thread moderators for JBW and FCOC able to move threads to the correct VSBW forums or do they not have the user rights to do so? Perhaps the bureaucrats could have a talk about if their rights should be extended a bit (if it is practically viable) otherwise? It seems inappropriate/awkward to name each of the sub-forums "General Discussion (FCOC)" and "General Discussion (JBW)" for example, especially for the longer titles.
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Well, if the issue is that members keep posting threads to the wrong sub-forums and the moderators there cannot move them to where they are supposed to be, we may have to discuss if we should extend their rights a bit, if it is possible and will not cause any potential negative consequences.
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They are. It's just the frequency that I've been seeing these threads pop up is rather a bit too much imo. The ones I linked are all from FC/OC, I can only assume the same has happened to JBW (I don't actively look at JBW.).
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Okay, but then the problem is simply that they don't have as many thread moderators and administrators, and it isn't like Promestein, Ryukama, and Copetan should enlist ones that do not seem qualified to handle it.
How big is this problem anyway? Is it happening occasionally or very frequently?
How big is this problem anyway? Is it happening occasionally or very frequently?
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My suggestion is that experienced members of a verse be allowed CRTs.
This prevents CRTs involving unknown verses from "dying", becomes one less problem for the team to deal with, doesn't create a huge queue of CRTs if most of the mods are busy, and makes the function itself more useful.
This prevents CRTs involving unknown verses from "dying", becomes one less problem for the team to deal with, doesn't create a huge queue of CRTs if most of the mods are busy, and makes the function itself more useful.
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That reminds me of my own revision which is currently not getting any replies.
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