Strongest One Punch Man General Discussion Thread v11

[Qawsedf234]

Thread created to discuss everything One Punch Man related. Topics from last thread (vs wise).

• 7-A rollbacks due to lack of solid Goketsu scaling. So everyone goes back to 7-B or At Least 7-B

• Adjusting Blizzard and those who scale to her based on recent chapters

 

[SuperAPM]

Phew, that was quick

 

[SuperAPM]

Before I forget to bring this up again:

Should the baseline for Demons be upped to 8-B?

 

[Peter1129]

No the current High 8-C+ calc that comes from Kombu Infinity is just 7.37 Tons that still pretty far away from baseline 8-B which is 11 tons. So unless we have proof that demons can easily no sell attacks and curb stomp or one shot Kombu Infinity they should just stay as at least High 8-C+.

 

[ElixirBlue]

But Kombu was listed as Tiger, not Demon. Demons don't have to one shot Kombu to be the next tier higher.

 

[SuperAPM]

I'm referring to the three crows specifically. Since they're individually scaled down from Kombu to baseline High 8-C+ (which is about 6 Tons IIRC) that would make two and three crows 12 to 18 tons respectively. Which would put baseline demon inbetween those two values.

 

[Peter1129]

I'm referring to the three crows specifically. Since they're individually scaled down from Kombu to baseline High 8-C+ (which is about 6 Tons IIRC) that would make two and three crows 12 to 18 tons respectively. Which would put baseline demon inbetween those two values.

Well that I'm not too sure. You should probably wait for somebody else to respond.

 

[KGiffoni]

I'm referring to the three crows specifically. Since they're individually scaled down from Kombu to baseline High 8-C+ (which is about 6 Tons IIRC) that would make two and three crows 12 to 18 tons respectively. Which would put baseline demon inbetween those two values.

Yeah i agree with this.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Actually, doesn't the Manga give Pig God some solid scaling Durability-wise and Lifting Strength-wise?


Crushing Heavy machinery


Translating that to Durability


Translating that to Lifting Strength

 

[GyroNutz]

Crushing heavy machinery doesn't mean that much when you get to nuclear levels of power.

 

[KGiffoni]

Crushing heavy machinery doesn't mean that much when you get to nuclear levels of power.

this

 

[ElixirBlue]

Hm. I guess. Should still be noted since Murata and One choose to add that piece of info.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

https://********.org/chapter/102159/1

https://********.org/chapter/102159/2

bringing this back because it's a nice supporting feat for Snek.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

DoS did damage the suits so I think she can scale to them.

https://********.org/chapter/13814/19

Fubuki would scale to her because she wounded her.

Evil Eye would scale to Fubuki.

 

[SuperAPM]

Did she do damage? She only seemed to whip their heads.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

You can't even see where she whipped tbh. The guy with the scar on his face got that from Royal Ripper here.

https://********.org/chapter/13814/15

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Wait I'm wrong. You actually CAN see the spots that got whipped.

http://prntscr.com/qakahq

Indicated by the shockwaves

 

[SuperAPM]

She seems to have whipped the suits but I don't know if she did any damage to them, they only appear to crack due to their suits bulking up into their more powerful state (The shockwaves is simply a result of them bulking up.)

 

[Qawsedf234]

Yeah that's what I didn't know. I get G5 scaling (even if he scales higher due to G4), but I don't know if Do-S really did anything other than mind control them.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

She did damage to them, yeah.

 

[KGiffoni]

Btw why doesn't post-MA Sonic scale to FF?

 

[Chaingunfighter1]

Because it's inconclusive as to what degree he scales; both Flashy Flash & Sonic have been insistent that they aren't going all out, with Flashy Flash certainly appearing more casual. You can extrapolate Sonic as being above Gale Wind & Hellfire Flame's human forms, but that wouldn't necessarily give him a higher tier result. The webcomic releases stopped abruptly during the fight, so rather than make assumptions, it's best to wait until the webcomic gives us a better conclusion on Sonic vs Flashy (or at least, Sonic & Flashy vs the Ninja Village Leader.)

 

[Tetsucabrah]

So I guess there goes her scaling. Since she says the line to Bang and Bomb, not Genos.

 

[Chaingunfighter1]

Also, the Fubuki statement has been retained:

"FUBUKI: Without my protection just now, there would be nothing left of you

FUBUKI: You own (sic) me one"

Except now she's speaking directly to Bang and Bomb.

 

[Quangotjokes]

.

 

[SuperAPM]

Translations out for those unaware

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It seems that Tatsumaki's feat is already getting even better in the manga. In the Webcomic, Psykos' statement of being 1,500 meters underground is more general, and refers to the whole Monster Association. But here it seems to be implying she's 1,500 meters underground of where Tatsumaki already is, which is on the lower levels of the existing Monster Association.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Yeah but unlike Genos they weren't in the middle of a beam struggle with Rover and seem pretty chill about the whole situation.

http://prntscr.com/qalh23

So does this do anything to solidify their scaling to Gouketsu?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Also, the Fubuki statement has been retained:
"FUBUKI: Without my protection just now, there would be nothing left of you

FUBUKI: You own (sic) me one"

Except now she's speaking directly to Bang and Bomb.

Fubuki hypes herself all the time, and neither Bang nor Bomb look remotely concerned with themselves there.

Are you implying that that Blast she blocked was stronger than the Blasts Garou tanked head-on? Because at that point in time Garou wasn't stronger than Bang nor Bomb.

 

[SuperAPM]

Garou wasn't stronger than them in their fight in the forest obviously but what suggests he wasn't stronger than them when he fought Rover? He went through an incredibly significant stat buff after his fight against Ripper and Bug God.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Garou went through a buff after getting beat up by Bang and Bomb and Genos, yeah, but he still struggled against two strong demons fighting together, and then right after another buff he was finally able to one-shot demons with ease. That's the point where he became a real Dragon level threat.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Yeah but unlike Genos they weren't in the middle of a beam struggle with Rover and seem pretty chill about the whole situation.
http://prntscr.com/qalh23

So does this do anything to solidify their scaling to Gouketsu?

Gouketsu is overhyped in this wiki. I have 0 doubt in my mind that Bang would woop his ass, and he's not even near the strongest Cadre.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Gouketsu is overhyped in this wiki. I have 0 doubt in my mind that Bang would woop his ass, and he's not even near the strongest Cadre.

I absolutely agree. He's overhyped everywhere, not just here.

 

[SuperAPM]

It may or may not be correct to suggest that Gouketsu is the most powerful cadre, but currently speaking he absolutely possess' the greatest feat amongst them all. In fact I would honestly suggest its agreed timeframe lowball's the feat to where it reasonably should be. The issue with Gouketsu's scaling isn't that he's definately the strongest cadre canonically, we simply have no idea how he scales amongst the rest of them, and after a certain point it all becomes to speculative.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

I think Gouketsu could Whoop Gums or Fuhrer Ugly but not run through them like butter like Abandonment Bang did.

 

[SuperAPM]

But what actually suggests this to be the case?

 

[Epiccheev]

TFW when the third strongest monster in MA isn't even a cadre

 

[Qawsedf234]

Gouketsu is overhyped in this wiki.

He's not overhyped, he's just the only one with a feat that isn't just in the 7-C category (besides PM and Orochi).

 

[SuperAPM]

I'm referring to the three crows specifically. Since they're individually scaled down from Kombu to baseline High 8-C+ (which is about 6 Tons IIRC) that would make two and three crows 12 to 18 tons respectively. Which would put baseline demon inbetween those two values.

Can I get more thoughts on this?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Cadres who are undoubtedly stronger than Gouketsu imo:

• Overgrown Rover
• Evil Natural Water
• Elder Centipede
• Gyoro Gyoro
• Black Sperm
• Homeless Emperor