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Strongest One Punch Man General Discussion Thread v11
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Where in that panel is that implied?Matthew Schroeder said:
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Like, the most I really see is BS and Rover personally. Even then Rover doesn't seem to have the attack power and instead just uses spam blasts.
Can I get more thoughts on this?
Most I see is "At least High 8-C" in my view. Its possible that they're all weaker than Infinity but since they're a squad their combined strength just pushes them above her.
Can I get more thoughts on this?
Most I see is "At least High 8-C" in my view. Its possible that they're all weaker than Infinity but since they're a squad their combined strength just pushes them above her.
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She's 7.37 tons, but the issue is that we don't know the cut off point between her and something like Demonic Fan. Like they could each be 3 tons and collectively amount to 9 and still be High 8-C.
It would make sense for them to be 8-B if the crows were comparable to Kombu on a 1:1 situation, but we don't know if that's true. I guess I'm okay with "At least 8-C, likely 8-B" or something.
It would make sense for them to be 8-B if the crows were comparable to Kombu on a 1:1 situation, but we don't know if that's true. I guess I'm okay with "At least 8-C, likely 8-B" or something.
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Portrayal matters. In the web comic Bang was the first character we ever saw one shotting Dragon Levels other than freaking Saitama himself. Best martial artist in the world. Whooped Darkshine, the physically strongest hero. Shrugged off a hit from a dragon level in Melzargard. Took a combined effort of two powerful Dragon levels to stop.
Elder Centipede, took on the combined effort of Bang, Bomb, AND Genos and they still couldn't beat him. We have seen a monster take on multiple S class heroes at once before (again see Melzargard) but he was getting pushed around like nothing and only lasted as long as he did because of his gimmick ability. Vs EC they were clearly on the losing end. EC was also aking hits from Metal Bat and Metal Knight. Literally took on 5 different S class heroes and none of them came close to winning. Not to mention the statement about only 4 heroes being able to beat him.
Rover straight up ragdolls Dragon Level Garou and literally shrugs off a hit from him. Also takes on Bang and Bomb at the same time. Psykos seems to think he would buy her enough time to escape from Tatsumaki too.
Evil Natural Water is considered to be the secret weapon of the MA. Even Psykos struggles to control him. He goes on to take on many S class heroes without ever really showing any signs of struggle until he faces Tatsumaki.
Black Sperm has endless narrative hype. He's the only one in the MA willing to talk back to Orochi and Psykos. He's a cockroach character that also packs a punch. Even the smaller clones of him can make Atomic Samurai spit up blood. Even before he transforms no one could really do anything to him.
Elder Centipede, took on the combined effort of Bang, Bomb, AND Genos and they still couldn't beat him. We have seen a monster take on multiple S class heroes at once before (again see Melzargard) but he was getting pushed around like nothing and only lasted as long as he did because of his gimmick ability. Vs EC they were clearly on the losing end. EC was also aking hits from Metal Bat and Metal Knight. Literally took on 5 different S class heroes and none of them came close to winning. Not to mention the statement about only 4 heroes being able to beat him.
Rover straight up ragdolls Dragon Level Garou and literally shrugs off a hit from him. Also takes on Bang and Bomb at the same time. Psykos seems to think he would buy her enough time to escape from Tatsumaki too.
Evil Natural Water is considered to be the secret weapon of the MA. Even Psykos struggles to control him. He goes on to take on many S class heroes without ever really showing any signs of struggle until he faces Tatsumaki.
Black Sperm has endless narrative hype. He's the only one in the MA willing to talk back to Orochi and Psykos. He's a cockroach character that also packs a punch. Even the smaller clones of him can make Atomic Samurai spit up blood. Even before he transforms no one could really do anything to him.
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Portrayal matters
It does, which is why I agreed that a lot of them would scale to the 7-A feat when it was originally made. Just that you can't call someone overhyped when they're the only one (besides two people) who actually have a feat that isn't just 7-C.
It does, which is why I agreed that a lot of them would scale to the 7-A feat when it was originally made. Just that you can't call someone overhyped when they're the only one (besides two people) who actually have a feat that isn't just 7-C.
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We know collectively they're stronger than Kombu, the issue is individually we don't know their strength. Tigers are just stronger than wolves, who are 9-B by and large. So there's a large amount of wiggle room. Angry Grandpa would be clapped by Lightpull Cord, despite both being Tigers. There's no real indication to me that the crows are equal with Kombu, just that together they exceed 7.37 tons.SuperAPM said:
EDIT: I should say they are high Tigers though, since the Internet Surfaces (a group of three Demons) were still rated as Demon, meaning that they weren't strong enough as a group to get bumped up to Dragon, unlike with the Crows.
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Portrayal matters far more than feats sometimes. But it's almost completely ignored here for OPM.
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I'm not saying they should be equal, I've already agreed that at most they should only be baseline High 8-C+. But the idea with the crows is that for just three individual tigers to become a demon just by coming together suggests that they are individually extremely high level tigers and an extremely low level demon.
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I would not use portrayal as an argument in this instance. Not when Gouketsu is one of the most overhyped characters in canon. ************* Genos compared his effortless whacks to Saitama for christ sake, even suggesting he would need the full support of the S-Class just to take out. That is approaching King level hype.
The assertion was obviously incorrect considering how effortlessly Saitama clobbered his head through the stratosphere, and the overhype was done intentionally to make that moment that much more cathartic (at the very least its still one of my favorite moments in the series.) But Genos and indeed manga itself makes it very clear that gouketsu was a very powerful dragon. The same applies to the cadres of course, that's why they were picked. But we simply do not know how they exactly scale to Gouketsu. For all we know he truly was the weakest cadre of them all (highly unlikely) or was actually the most powerful. We don't have a definitive answer, and that's why I'm putting the scaling under scrutiny to implore if its actually correct.
I would not use portrayal as an argument in this instance. Not when Gouketsu is one of the most overhyped characters in canon. ************* Genos compared his effortless whacks to Saitama for christ sake, even suggesting he would need the full support of the S-Class just to take out. That is approaching King level hype.
The assertion was obviously incorrect considering how effortlessly Saitama clobbered his head through the stratosphere, and the overhype was done intentionally to make that moment that much more cathartic (at the very least its still one of my favorite moments in the series.) But Genos and indeed manga itself makes it very clear that gouketsu was a very powerful dragon. The same applies to the cadres of course, that's why they were picked. But we simply do not know how they exactly scale to Gouketsu. For all we know he truly was the weakest cadre of them all (highly unlikely) or was actually the most powerful. We don't have a definitive answer, and that's why I'm putting the scaling under scrutiny to implore if its actually correct.
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I mean, it is though. If we based it purely on raw scaling Goketsu would be the only 7-A. But going by intention is also a nebulous area and varies from person to person. I just disagree with Matt's stance that we overhype Goketsu.
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Blunt force resistance, cutting resistance, and regen for Pig God.
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Wait, what? That was Suiryu, who barely knew Saitama's power or the S class for that matter, not Genos.SuperAPM said:
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Yes!Tetsucabrah said:
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D-damn. I remember Suiryu saying that line.
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Suiryu probably doesn't even know most of, if any of the S Class heroes.
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Savage
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In both the manga and anime he's considered Tiger or higher. An 'Above Tiger' if you willElixirBlue said:
But definitely stronger than the average Tiger, that thing took on two highly regarded A-Class heroes and won rather easily, S-Class heroes were considered for it. Scaling other Demons to it seems like fair scaling.
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Isn't the first one the original?Ryukama said:
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That's a children's show though. It makes way more sense for the main character to be a little kid than some skimpily dressed model lol
The redraws looked like she aged up from 7 to 14
The redraws looked like she aged up from 7 to 14
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I feel that if a tiny event changed in Murata's life he'd be butterfly effected into becoming a hentai artist because lmao.
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This is fine.
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Based on the interview where he's asked if Fubuki is a virgin I'd say he has no interest in that kind of thing.
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With what? That she is bored out of her mind when she doesn't have monsters to kill?DbzDB2 said:
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^^Tetsucabrah said:
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It should be noted that Fubuki blocked the same attack that vaporized Super Mouse, who survived and regenned from Garou's whirlwind Iron Cutting fist.
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Fubuki is definitely A class level. Capabilities wise. She is a Gadget Hero though
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She was always A-Class or even S-Class level, she just couldn't get to number #1 of either and due to her inferiority complex she couldn't handle that. It wasn't until recent stuff that she got over that hangup and ranked up.
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