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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

darkphantom9805 said:
The same question I’ve literally asked multiple times lol
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That's because you haven't been paying attention. I already explained myself in indirect ways but you didn't care. I withdrew the "trapped" because it was a reach near the beginning of this exchange, I've misunderstood what you meant when you said "avatar" because you didn't make it clear that we were talking about the same thing and so on and so forth. A lot of it is based on a misunderstanding and semantics. And I have next to no desire to partake further.

But if you wanted to re-phrase your question and make it easier for me to answer something more specific about it, then be my guest.
 
AmongUsAboveUsBelow said:
Maybe using "trapped" wasn't the best word to describe the situation, but he is "sealed" and kept at bay by Blast and his crew. This is IN the chapters. This is canon.
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I've literally retracted "trapped" here yet you kept going on about it.
 
Let's take a look at one of your attempts at asking me, shall we?

"your assuming did blast say the seal is breaking his real body is trying to come in ? No he didn’t so why assume when that’s not even his goal to break the seal or his will which you still haven’t answered"

This is completely, demonstrably false and almost impossible to decipher. "Your" it's "You're" not "Your", "did" past tense for some reason? "the seal is breaking his real body" it's supposed to be "the seal stopping him from breaking in" maybe?

Seriously incoherent english.
 
I hope one day we get the rundown of how much a hero makes monthly. When Saitama was B-Rank he was still broke. (Granted the enitre series goes by so quickly he might have received like 1 B-Class pay before getting promoted. If even that, lol.)
 
Epiccheev said:
I hope one day we get the rundown of how much a hero makes monthly. When Saitama was B-Rank he was still broke. (Granted the enitre series goes by so quickly he might have received like 1 B-Class pay before getting promoted. If even that, lol.)
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Found this and comment in their that gives a pretty good ballpark.
 
HA makes a lot of bank out of them and their image, But the pay is quite mediocre considering how much they could make using their physicals anywhere else.
It's a nice estimative.
 
Redcated said:
Question, do these wiki treat the zero punch as undodgeble without immeasurable speed?
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MrTayman616 said:
Yes. I mean the statement and the feat is clear, no?
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There was a CRT like that in the past and it got rejected. The argument was that it is just a metaphor.

Edit: The CRT.
Alexander said:
When this fight ends, we are going to discuss the dimensional slash speed
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A good odd is that it will just be whatever Void's attack speed is, meaning nothing changes much. We probably don't even get MFTL+. Though, we know it is much faster than Blast can dodge by foot.
 
The thread wanted to establish that it was immeasurable speed, which is wrong.

It is punching while travelling back in time, which I think would require immeasurable speed to evade as the attack itself comes from the future

To put it simple: Saitama starts time travelling using what Garou taught him. Then, while travelling back in time, he decides when to stop by punching. If said punch is directed to someone, then he punches from that time travelling state and hits the being. It is causality reversal because the attack was thrown when travelling back, i.e., the cause (Saitama throwing a punch) comes after the effect (the punch connecting), and is unavoidable because of that: you cannot evade something that hits you before it is even landed.

Consequently, all speeds up to infinite should not be able to evade it, as what the perceive is the consequence of the attack: them getting punched, not the cause of the attack (Saitama landing a punch). That is why it should require immeasurable speed to evade, imo
 
Unless I missed something from that thread, no

It'd be dumb not to treat an attack that is stated to be undodgeable due to causality reversal… as undodgeable due to causality reversal lol
 
MrTayman616 said:
"The argument was that it is just a metaphor." wait this got accepted? or it was accepted that it was undodgeable?
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JustANormalPerson01 said:
The thread wanted to establish that it was immeasurable speed, which is wrong.
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It was rejected not accepted. It is even against the notion that you need immeasurable speed to dodge it rather than just being faster than the punch. It was like Saitama appeared next to Garou and threw the punch.
 
Kin201 said:
It was rejected not accepted. It is even against the notion that you need immeasurable speed to dodge it rather than just being faster than the punch. It was like Saitama appeared next to Garou and threw the punch.
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It's not immeasurable speed but i don't remember anything about "being undodgeable" getting rejected? couldn't find a thread about it as well.
 
MrTayman616 said:
It's not immeasurable speed but i don't remember anything about "being undodgeable" getting rejected? couldn't find a thread about it as well.
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Why do you think it's undodgeable then. What's stopping someone 100 times faster than Saitama dodging it?
 
Kin201 said:
Why do you think it's undodgeable. What's stopping someone 100 times faster than Saitama dodging it?
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The fact that the punch did hit before it was landed.

Saitama was travelling back in time when he threw the punch. If we use a time graph to show it:

t=10 – Saitama starts to travel back in time
t=9 – Saitama is travelling back in time. Consequently, the time goes backwards
t=8
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t=1 – Saitama throws a punch to Garou
t=0 – The punch connects to Garou

The punch connecting happens before the punch being thrown, thus reversing causality (as common causality follows cause being before effect) and being unavoidable. One being 100 times could not evade said punch, because he wouldn't perceive the punch coming, as the hit happens before the punch's throw.

You could think of it as something similar to Gae Bolg's ability from fate, in which the effect (Gae Bolg piercing someone's heart) is written before the cause of the attack.

That does, indeed, need immeasurable speed to be avoided (or be a Servant and have so high luck you just evade something that is not thrown, lmao)
 
Kin201 said:
There was a CRT like that in the past and it got rejected. The argument was that it is just a metaphor.

Edit: The CRT.

A good odd is that it will just be whatever Void's attack speed is, meaning nothing changes much. We probably don't even get MFTL+. Though, we know it is much faster than Blast can dodge by foot.
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Only Saitama will scale
 
Kin201 said:
You can bump the thread and argue there. I was just pointing the arguments presented in the thread. I'm not here to argue for or against it.
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The thread argued for immeasurable speed, which it isn't.

It is throwing a punch when travelling back in time. If the CRT was about arguing that "anyone a little faster than Saitama could evade being punched" then yeah, I'd definitely argue against it
 
MrTayman616 said:
Can't find it d:
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Minos_the_Judge

Thread 'Saitama's POSSIBLY minor immeasurable attack speed'

This is a bit of a controversial topic to talk about, but I haven't seen anyone discuss it. So let me do it.

After the battle between Saitama and Garou, Saitama, using a special technique, began to move through time, seeing events go backwards. And during his movement, Saitama, being inside this time-traveling space, launched a strike that eventually came out of this space into our world and hit Garou.

It may seem like there's nothing special about it, but we're then told that this punch was "Landed before it was thrown"...
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JustANormalPerson01 said:
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You can probably argue in the thread. Currently, I don't think it's accepted that Saitama time travel punch is undodgeable and requires immeasurable speed to dodge rather than simply having enough speed.
 
I mean, that is how punching while travelling backward in time works, there is no need to explicitely put it in a page or state "it is accepted". If you get punched before the punch is even thrown, it doesn't matter if you try to evade the cause, as the effect has affected you already.

If I want to evade a gun shot to avoid the damage, but the bullet already pierced me before it is even shot, then dodging it when thrown is meaningless, and avoid the bullet piercing me is impossible as it has already pierced me.
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
I mean, that is how punching while travelling backward in time works, there is no need to explicitely put it in a page or state "it is accepted". If you get punched before the punch is even thrown, it doesn't matter if you try to evade the cause, as the effect has affected you already.
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It definitely needs a note if Saitama ever used it in versus battles. Because people on the thread were acting like what I said earlier. They don't think it is undodgable at all.
It was like Saitama appeared next to Garou and threw the punch.
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