STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[darkphantom9805]

Ok so the fight is not over

How do you say that

 

[Alexander]

How do you say that

I thought he died

 

[darkphantom9805]

I thought he died

He’s literally dying next chapter the fight is over bro is turning on god meaning god is going to smite him

 

[Coomandar]

Redraw incoming.

Blast has his arm back. Inconsistency in Void drawing. Void has his sword for some reason.

Rip

redraw incoming, for ******* sake..

 

[MrTayman616]

I thought he died

what? no one is dying.

 

[Alexander]

what? no one is dying.

aaaaaaa

 

[Quangotjokes]

Ok so the fight is not over

I tried to tell you lol

 

[Tural2004]

I had a weird dream where Maya, Blast and everyone were laughing at Void due to being only one dumb enough who still thinks his plan is hidden.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Why do ppl thinks Blast is fodder? Hell, even in brazilian OPM community ppl calls him "buxa" (our specific way to call something fodder)

There's a youtube video where some guys say Blast is fodder and inferior to, you guessed, Boros

Thing is, Blast fights and directly scales to Garou and Void who are the strongest beings, aside from the obvious ones at the top, but Blast never exploded a planet or something for non-scalers to see and think "wow, that's CSRC level!"

As long as he is a God Tier through scaling, he'll always be fodder for some people

 

[Bernkastelll]

Boros

That mf is dead since a decade ago

 

[Worthless]

There's a youtube video where some guys say Blast is fodder and inferior to, you guessed, Boros

Thing is, Blast fights and directly scales to Garou and Void who are the strongest beings, aside from the obvious ones at the top, but Blast never exploded a planet or something for non-scalers to see and think "wow, that's CSRC level!"

As long as he is a God Tier through scaling, he'll always be fodder for some people

Non-scalers > power scalers by miles. Unlike power scalers, they look at things from a narrative perspective and focus on portrayal rather than solely on feats, which power scalers exaggerate like a bunch of idiots."he's superior to this character because this building level destruction is actually multi-continental according to our calculation" You get it. He has yet to show an actual feat to suggest he can beat Boros. The same goes for Void and Pre IO Garou.

 

[Worthless]

That mf is dead since a decade ago

He's literally back and still possesses a tremendous amount of energy that even Genos with his recent upgrade, still couldn't comprehend and thought letting such an organism loose in the world would be too dangerous. He'll likely play a huge role after this neo thing arc. Heck he might even become the avatar of God if his brain is actually fully dead.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Non-scalers > power scalers by miles. Unlike power scalers, they look at things from a narrative perspective and focus on portrayal rather than solely on feats, which power scalers exaggerate like a bunch of idiots."he's superior to this character because this building level destruction is actually multi-continental according to our calculation" You get it. He has yet to show an actual feat to suggest he can beat Boros. The same goes for Void and Pre IO Garou.

but even from a narrative perspective this doesnt even makes sense, blast could fight Cosmic Garou, Boros did not

 

[darkphantom9805]

but even from a narrative perspective this doesnt even makes sense, blast could fight Cosmic Garou, Boros did not

No he couldn’t do anything to garou garou literally says you aren’t worth my time after taking 0 damage from a barrage of punches void literally states the same thing they weren’t impressed with how fodder blast is and the only reason blast was ever relevant was because darkness nullification hax vs god divine light

 

[Worthless]

but even from a narrative perspective this doesnt even makes sense, blast could fight Cosmic Garou, Boros did not

The implications and portrayal [1] suggest otherwise which people here deliberately treat it as if it means nothing, simply because their imaginary tiering of Blast doesn't align with what's likely the truth. Blast and his team were literally shocked by Garou planetary shaking, and that alone should tell you that he might not be as strong as we initially thought him to be.

 

[Bernkastelll]

The implications and portrayal [1] suggest otherwise which people here deliberately treat it as if it means nothing, simply because their imaginary tiering of Blast doesn't align with what's likely the truth. Blast and his team were literally shocked by Garou planetary shaking, and that alone should tell you that he might not be as strong as we initially thought him to be.

I mean, of course the almost destruction of the world is scary, you know... it's the world

 

[Worthless]

I mean, of course the almost destruction of the world is scary, you know... it's the world

Boris was impressed, while Beast King thinks no earthling could have possibly done it which mean he is also impressed. Although these details have been retconned, it still show you where ONE and Murata intended to scale Blast strength and the strength of the rest of his teammates. The fact that someone from the same species as Boros is on blastvenger should already tell you how strong he and his species are. But I'm beginning to believe that the celestial bodies or just Earth are actually more tougher compared to ours, after those comedic aliens appeared with their destructive beams.

 

[RinneItachi]

Non-scalers > power scalers by miles. Unlike power scalers, they look at things from a narrative perspective and focus on portrayal rather than solely on feats, which power scalers exaggerate like a bunch of idiots.

Generalization. You're talking about a large group of people like they all think exactly the same. Every individual on this website has disagreements with each other. That aside, a combination of narrative nuance and feats is important for accuracy. And "Non-scalers" literally just means every single person on the god damn planet that doesn't talk about which drawing would beat the other if they met.

"he's superior to this character because this building level destruction is actually multi-continental according to our calculation" You get it.

This isn't actually relevant to your argument here. I strongly think that people put too much weight into fan calcs, but that isn't important to specifically mention here.

He has yet to show an actual feat to suggest he can beat Boros.

This is objectively wrong for reasons mentioned many times before to which you willfully ignored.

The same goes for Void

On his own, but he scales to Blast who stomps Boros and arguably scales to Garou.

and Pre IO Garou.

This is so laughably outrageous it feels like rage bait.

Your argument is just "narrative>feats" which is whatever on its own but you take that logic and then apply it here, the issue is that your personal interpretation of the narrative is not objective truth and you need to get your delusional head around that concept. Literally, NO ONE that I've seen, agrees, that Boros is supposed to be portrayed as equal to base CF Garou. But you think that it's true and you think that your exclusive personal opinion holds the most weight over everything else. A few comparison scans do not prove anything and it's even a stretch to argue about the debatable nuances to them in the first place.

In actuality, feats, statements, scaling, AND narrative implications, point to the opposite of your arguments being true. Which everyone besides you seems to agree with.

Feats-Gamma Ray Burst. Serious Punch Squared energy which destroyed millions of stars Vs. Kicking Saitama to the moon

Statements-Gamma Ray Burst Vs. Planet busting attack (debatable and contentious)

Scaling-Keeping up with both casual and serious Saitama Vs. Getting no-diffed and merely acknowledged by a casual Saitama who was much, MUCH weaker at the time

Narrative-The failed but divinely powerful avatar of the overarching final villain of the franchise, who actually rivaled Saitama and made him go all-out, proving an actual threat to the entire Earth and ultimately causing its end in the original timeline Vs. Being set-up as a parallel and rival to the MC who we just got familiar with at this point in the story, to be used as a plot nuance to carry forth the idea that even among those who have achieved the same boredom derived from strength, Saitama stands on top and is still far stronger, only managing to barely survive Saitama who was holding back and allowing Boros to show what he could do out of respect and curiosity.

But you think that comparing how a few panels are framed means that they're supposed to be equal?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Generalization. You're talking about a large group of people like they all think exactly the same. Every individual on this website has disagreements with each other. That aside, a combination of narrative nuance and feats is important for accuracy. And "Non-scalers" literally just means every single person on the god damn planet that doesn't talk about which drawing would beat the other if they met.

This isn't actually relevant to your argument here. I strongly think that people put too much weight into fan calcs, but that isn't important to specifically mention here.

This is objectively wrong for reasons mentioned many times before to which you willfully ignored.

On his own, but he scales to Blast who stomps Boros and arguably scales to Garou.

This is so laughably outrageous it feels like rage bait.

Your argument is just "narrative>feats" which is whatever on its own but you take that logic and then apply it here, the issue is that your personal interpretation of the narrative is not objective truth and you need to get your delusional head around that concept. Literally, NO ONE that I've seen, agrees, that Boros is supposed to be portrayed as equal to base CF Garou. But you think that it's true and you think that your exclusive personal opinion holds the most weight over everything else. A few comparison scans do not prove anything and it's even a stretch to argue about the debatable nuances to them in the first place.

In actuality, feats, statements, scaling, AND narrative implications, point to the opposite of your arguments being true. Which everyone besides you seems to agree with.

Feats-Gamma Ray Burst. Serious Punch Squared energy which destroyed millions of stars Vs. Kicking Saitama to the moon

Statements-Gamma Ray Burst Vs. Planet busting attack (debatable and contentious)

Scaling-Keeping up with both casual and serious Saitama Vs. Getting no-diffed and merely acknowledged by a casual Saitama who was much, MUCH weaker at the time

Narrative-The failed but divinely powerful avatar of the overarching final villain of the franchise, who actually rivaled Saitama and made him go all-out, proving an actual threat to the entire Earth and ultimately causing its end in the original timeline Vs. Being set-up as a parallel and rival to the MC who we just got familiar with at this point in the story, to be used as a plot nuance to carry forth the idea that even among those who have achieved the same boredom derived from strength, Saitama stands on top and is still far stronger, only managing to barely survive Saitama who was holding back and allowing Boros to show what he could do out of respect and curiosity.

But you think that comparing how a few panels are framed means that they're supposed to be equal?

 

[Worthless]

Generalization. You're talking about a large group of people like they all think exactly the same. Every individual on this website has disagreements with each other. That aside, a combination of narrative nuance and feats is important for accuracy. And "Non-scalers" literally just means every single person on the god damn planet that doesn't talk about which drawing would beat the other if they met.

This isn't actually relevant to your argument here. I strongly think that people put too much weight into fan calcs, but that isn't important to specifically mention here.

This is objectively wrong for reasons mentioned many times before to which you willfully ignored.

On his own, but he scales to Blast who stomps Boros and arguably scales to Garou.

This is so laughably outrageous it feels like rage bait.

Your argument is just "narrative>feats" which is whatever on its own but you take that logic and then apply it here, the issue is that your personal interpretation of the narrative is not objective truth and you need to get your delusional head around that concept. Literally, NO ONE that I've seen, agrees, that Boros is supposed to be portrayed as equal to base CF Garou. But you think that it's true and you think that your exclusive personal opinion holds the most weight over everything else. A few comparison scans do not prove anything and it's even a stretch to argue about the debatable nuances to them in the first place.

In actuality, feats, statements, scaling, AND narrative implications, point to the opposite of your arguments being true. Which everyone besides you seems to agree with.

Feats-Gamma Ray Burst. Serious Punch Squared energy which destroyed millions of stars Vs. Kicking Saitama to the moon

Statements-Gamma Ray Burst Vs. Planet busting attack (debatable and contentious)

Scaling-Keeping up with both casual and serious Saitama Vs. Getting no-diffed and merely acknowledged by a casual Saitama who was much, MUCH weaker at the time

Narrative-The failed but divinely powerful avatar of the overarching final villain of the franchise, who actually rivaled Saitama and made him go all-out, proving an actual threat to the entire Earth and ultimately causing its end in the original timeline Vs. Being set-up as a parallel and rival to the MC who we just got familiar with at this point in the story, to be used as a plot nuance to carry forth the idea that even among those who have achieved the same boredom derived from strength, Saitama stands on top and is still far stronger, only managing to barely survive Saitama who was holding back and allowing Boros to show what he could do out of respect and curiosity.

But you think that comparing how a few panels are framed means that they're supposed to be equal?

"He momentarily restrained SS² energy, which massively puts him above Boros." Typical power scaling reasoning. I'm not taking your ass seriously unless you show an actual feat that shows that Blast is stronger than Boros or just admit that all you see in manga - anime is power scaling and not the storyline/narrative implications and move on, like the certain people in BC community who think current characters are stronger than Julius and Lucifero because their personal scaling says so.

 

[Bernkastelll]

"He momentarily restrained SS² energy, which massively puts him above Boros." Typical power scaling reasoning. I'm not taking your ass seriously unless you show an actual feat that shows that Blast is stronger than Boros

restraining an attack that seems to have destroyed countless stars seems a bit higher than a mere statement about being able to wipe out continents, I can be wrong though

 

[Bernkastelll]

admit that all you see in manga - anime is power scaling and not the storyline/narrative implications and move on, like the certain people in BC community who think current characters are stronger than Julius and Lucifero because their personal scaling says so.

You're aware that a mild powerscaling is literally needed to have a consistent story, right? Otherwise not even battle shounens are going to make sense

 

[Worthless]

restraining an attack that seems to have destroyed countless stars seems a bit higher than a mere statement about being able to wipe out continents, I can be wrong though

"Momentarily with a gate," He simply restrained it and controlled it with Gate before the energy grew powerful enough to actually break it ,which doesn't fully scale to his AP or durability. Even Pre IO Garou can break it

 

[Epiccheev]

Peh! Peh!

 

[Bernkastelll]

. Even Pre IO Garou can break it

"even pre IO Garou can break it", yeah, and Pre IO Garou can destroy multiple stars, wow, Blast is so weak, he only managed to restrain for a while an attack that could destroy multiple stars.

Meanwhile Boros best statement is a bazillion times weaker

 

[RinneItachi]

"He momentarily restrained SS² energy, which massively puts him above Boros." Typical power scaling reasoning. I'm not taking your ass seriously unless you show an actual feat that shows that Blast is stronger than Boros or just admit that all you see in manga - anime is power scaling and not the storyline/narrative implications and move on, like the certain people in BC community who think current characters are stronger than Julius and Lucifero because their personal scaling says so.

So you ignore 98% of the message and just say the exact same thing you've said before. Yeah I'm not gonna bother. You're not ready to change your opinion.

 

[Worthless]

"even pre IO Garou can break it", yeah, and Pre IO Garou can destroy multiple stars, wow, Blast is so weak, he only managed to restrain for a while an attack that could destroy multiple stars.

Meanwhile Boros best statement is a bazillion times weaker

To say he can destroy multiple stars in that version is absolute nonsense when the energy in question is just mountain level in DC. I’m not going to entertain it when I know it’s absolutely not true.

 

[Worthless]

So you ignore 98% of the message and just say the exact same thing you've said before. Yeah I'm not gonna bother. You're not ready to change your opinion.

Sorry if it hurts you that I treat your argument as nonsense (because it is) and I didn’t bother addressing all of it because it’s nonsense. Give yourself some time, and you might come to the same realization as well, but you would have to put your power scaling aside for that and your false idea of how strong he is.

 

[Bernkastelll]

To say he can destroy multiple stars in that version is absolute nonsense

But they literally destroyed multiple stars, the stars destruction was a Pre IO feat, I wonder if you ever read the manga.

just mountain level in DC

how the hell is it mountain level in DC if it was spread across the universe destroying multiple stars?

 

[RinneItachi]

Sorry if it hurts you that I treat your argument as nonsense (because it is) and I didn’t bother addressing all of it because it’s nonsense. Give yourself some time, and you might come to the same realization as well, but you would have to put your power scaling aside for that and your false idea of how strong he is.

So you can't make a counterargument? Okay.

 

[Worthless]

But they literally destroyed multiple stars, the stars destruction was a Pre IO feat,

I'm just tired of saying Pre Serious Punch , saying pre IO is much easier and shorter

I wonder if you ever read the manga.

Crazy that you said that but claimed pre serious punch Garou can destroy multiple stars when we know that's absolutely not true.

ow the hell is it mountain level in DC if it was spread across the universe destroying multiple stars?

The audacity to say you wonder if I read the manga. The Garou who overloaded his gate was before he copied Saitama's Serious State. Stop playing word games when you know clearly know what I was referring (no, maybe you don’t)

 

[Bernkastelll]

Crazy that you said that but claimed pre serious punch Garou can destroy multiple stars when we know that's absolutely not true.

I said pre IO can do it, not pre serious punch, show me where I said pre serious punch can do it, show it.

 

[Bernkastelll]

The audacity to say you wonder if I read the manga. The Garou who overloaded his gate was before he copied Saitama's Serious State. Stop playing word games when you know clearly know what I was referring (no, maybe you don’t)

How the hell is it a word game if these are two different things? Pre IO means everything before IO, including the Serious Punch, while Pre serious punch means everything before the Serious Punch, these are two different things buddy

 

[Worthless]

So you can't make a counterargument? Okay.

You don't need to address something that you know is absolutely nonsense, especially for someone who thinks their personal interpretation of the feats and personal scaling overturns narrative implications. But maybe you do. Not me.

 

[Worthless]

How the hell is it a word game if these are two different things? Pre IO means everything before IO, including the Serious Punch, while Pre serious punch means everything before the Serious Punch, these are two different things buddy

Pre IO just refers to before he copied Serious Saitama in my context. I’m not going to circle around something as absolutely nonsensical as this. Stop mentioning me.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Pre IO just refers to before he copied Serious Saitama in my context

How are people supposed to know what's in your mind? I don't care about what is your context, Pre-IO means before IO, which includes the Serious Punch, if you can't even understand basic things like this what are you even doing?

 

[RinneItachi]

You don't need to address something that you know is absolutely nonsense, especially for someone who thinks their personal interpretation of the feats and personal scaling overturns narrative implications. But maybe you do. Not me.

You know none of this proves a point. And you're failing to upset me if that's your objective here. At this stage you've been proven utterly wrong by multiple people and yet still deny and refuse, not out of an actual argumentative drive or focus, but simply because you don't want to even acknowledge a different opinion. You're just ignorant. Not even gonna bother replying to you if this is how you intend to conduct yourself.

 

[Worthless]

Stop mentioning me

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

[1]

Bro keeps using the editor text of "He took damage" that was erased when the volume was released

 

[Worthless]

You know none of this proves a point. And you're failing to upset me if that's your objective here. At this stage you've been proven utterly wrong by multiple people and yet still deny and refuse, not out of an actual argumentative drive or focus, but simply because you don't want to even acknowledge a different opinion. You're just ignorant. Not even gonna bother replying to you if this is how you intend to conduct yourself.

I’ve been in your same boat, so I completely understand what you mean, but the difference is I came to realize it’s not as grandiose as I initially thought it was. Whereas you?? Yeah, please stop talking to me. I have no time for someone like you either.