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What do you guys think about gathering every single piece of evidence that indicates S-class and Dragon levels being tier 6 or at the very least, far stronger than their current ratings? It can be things nobody has brought up before, things that are already rejected, things that seem like a stretch or feats that are unscaleable alone. I will go first:
1) Demon levels are stated to be capable of destroying a whole city single-handedly which would mean it should be done in a reasonable time frame.
2) Darkshine's defensive power is invincible compared to his offensive power.
3) All three generals are comparable to each other and Geryuganshoop is 6-C.
4) Melzalgald was confident that he could survive a bombardment from Boros' ship.
5) Three generals can easily damage Boros' ship interior.
6) Atomic Samurai was confident to take Melzalgald head-on despite his first thought (however shakily) being that he was the one who destroyed A-city despite the gigantic ship right above his head. Only after Melzalgald's own statement about the ship does he conclude that Melzalgald doesn't seem strong enough to do that.
7) Homeless Emperor was always extremely casual during all of his appearances and is shown to perform far stronger feats than his High 7-A such as his aurora.
8) Black Sperm and Homeless Emperor can defeat anybody together which should include Gouketsu. And we know that HE is useless outside his firepower.
9) At least one of the cadres is stronger than Gouketsu according to the anime compus. Likely Rover since defeating him was enough to indicate that Saitama was the one who defeated Gouketsu and EC.
10) Rover can tank CSDSF which is superior to RASRF which is far superior to what Bang can perform alone. Bang at the time stated that sharpness had returned to his fists which should make it comparable to his prime which is stated to be unstoppable.
11) Orochi prioritized the person who defeated Rover over Psykos' struggle at her High 6-C form.
12) Psykos believed she could overpower Tatsumaki even though she should be aware of her feats against Boros' ship.
13) Vomited Fuhrer Ugly can overpower Tatsumaki who performed a 6-C feat moments prior.
14) Platinum Sperm was confident that he could defeat SSKM King in one hit who is strong enough to vaporize people that can content with his base form. His base form could vaporize Elder Centipede, who was far stronger than his previous form, in one hit. EC's base form is stronger than Carnage Mode which is stronger than his base form to the point where Genus believes nothing in this world could stop him despite previously believing that Saitama could contend with him.
15) Bang was contemplating who would win between Saitama and himself despite Saitama's meteor feat and thought he could defeat him if the latter was off guard.
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Dunno how quantifiable this isDemon levels are stated to be capable of destroying a whole city single-handedly which would mean it should be done in a reasonable time frame.
Wasn't that statement made by Murata?which is stated to be unstoppable
We almost never use the anime stuff for manga scalingaccording to the anime compus
Why?even though she should be aware of her feats against Boros' ship
What?who performed a 6-C feat moments prior
High-Mid RegenMelzalgald was confident that he could survive a bombardment from Boros' ship
That's just not true with our current scalingEC's base form is stronger than Carnage Mode
All three generals are comparable to each other
Destroying a city doesn't necessarily equate to actually blowing it up like some DBZ villain. Being a threat to a city can also mean just destroy buildings, city blocks and kill a bunch of people with relative ease1) Demon levels are stated to be capable of destroying a whole city single-handedly which would mean it should be done in a reasonable time frame.
Ok2) Darkshine's defensive power is invincible compared to his offensive power.
3) All three generals are comparable to each other and Geryuganshoop is 6-C.
Ok, although no one scales to the Generals at their peak other than Orochi5) Three generals can easily damage Boros' ship interior.
Inverse square law goes brrrrr4) Melzalgald was confident that he could survive a bombardment from Boros' ship.
That's just AS talking out of his ass, considering that's the first monster that he has seen right after the city got destroyed he just assumed that it might have been Melz6) Atomic Samurai was confident to take Melzalgald head-on despite his first thought (however shakily) being that he was the one who destroyed A-city despite the gigantic ship right above his head. Only after Melzalgald's own statement about the ship does he conclude that Melzalgald doesn't seem strong enough to do that.
Where is it stated that they can beat anyone?8) Black Sperm and Homeless Emperor can defeat anybody together which should include Gouketsu. And we know that HE is useless outside his firepower.
We don't know which cadre they are talking about. Could be Gums to even Black Sperm or Psykos9) At least one of the cadres is stronger than Gouketsu according to the anime compus. Likely Rover since defeating him was enough to indicate that Saitama was the one who defeated Gouketsu and EC.
I fail to see how that would make Rover tier 610) Rover can tank CSDSF which is superior to RASRF which is far superior to what Bang can perform alone. Bang at the time stated that sharpness had returned to his fists which should make it comparable to his prime which is stated to be unstoppable.
That's highly debatable12) Psykos believed she could overpower Tatsumaki even though she should be aware of her feats against Boros' ship.
Tats was weakened so nah13) Vomited Fuhrer Ugly can overpower Tatsumaki who performed a 6-C feat moments prior.
That's still 7-A (unless there are actual tier 6 feats)14) Platinum Sperm was confident that he could defeat SSKM King in one hit who is strong enough to vaporize people that can content with his base form. His base form could vaporize Elder Centipede, who was far stronger than his previous form, in one hit. EC's base form is stronger than Carnage Mode which is stronger than his base form to the point where Genus believes nothing in this world could stop him despite previously believing that Saitama could contend with him.
When tho?15) Bang was contemplating who would win between Saitama and himself despite Saitama's meteor feat and thought he could defeat him if the latter was off guard.
How? It doesn't seem right.
The size is calculated using feats.
Okay, to go over this for the fifth time:
Quite literally every single point of evidence we have ever gotten says that there are zero cities the size of coutnries. The regions named after them are country sized. The cities themselves are not.
- Beefcake/Biceps King, a 270 meter giant, destroys a ton of City B when he dies. The same giant also destroyed City D, and do mean destroyed
- Mosquito Girl has a 50 kilometer range and mentions the surrounding forests
- The House of Evolution is located in the wilderness.
- Even in the anime there's giant uninhabited regions
- Sonic is training in the woods and there's multiple examples of bonus chapters that take place in various wilderness regions not around City-Z
- Genos mentions multiple surrounding towns near City-Z
- A 1.5+ kilometer base is comparable to City Z (webcomic)
- Boros's ship completely destroys City A. "How do you know?" you ask, because the manga out right says 99.8% of the city was destroyed from this attack
- Tornado and Saitama's fight shows there's plenty of empty space between the cities (webcomic)
- In this space shot you cannot see any country sized cities
- When Elder Centipede goes into outer space you see vast tracks of completely uninhibited spaces and gaps between cities
- Garou's shockwave does not show any planet sized cities
- We see multiple space shots of City Z and there are not country sized cities
Also the Bofoi calc is using a non-canon manga panel, so I don't think its legit.
It isn't. It just shows how demon levels are far stronger than what we give them credit for.Dunno how quantifiable this is
I am not talking about the definition of demon levels. There is a databook statement that says demon levels can destroy a whole city single-handedly.Being a threat to a city can also mean just destroy buildings, city blocks and kill a bunch of people with relative
It is. We use those statements as "possibly".Wasn't that statement made by Murata?
We do though unless the event has transpired differently in manga.We almost never use the anime stuff for manga scaling
Because it was an event that was broadcast across the world and as far as I remember if we go by databook, the whole thing was recorded and attributed to S-class (Tatsumaki)Why?
Tatsumaki's drill.What?
I am aware of that. I am not suggesting he should fully scale since the same bombardment was intented to kill S-class. I am saying he should downscale since he still needs his orbs.High-Mid Regen
I think it should be. But either way, EC's second key is stronger.That's just not true with our current scaling
That's something that can be debated later on.Ok, although no one scales to the Generals at their peak other than Orochi
Concentrated bombardment goes brrr. No seriously, we can just calculate it.Inverse square law goes brrrrr
And he thought he can take someone like that head on.considering that's the first monster that he has seen right after the city got destroyed he just assumed that it might have been Melz
It was stated by Psykos.Where is it stated that they can beat anyone?
But we can take a guess. Besides, the second part of my argument should still be enough by itself.We don't know which cadre they are talking about. Could be Gums to even Black Sperm or Psykos
It doesn't with the current wiki stantards. I am just saying he is far stronger than what he is rated as.fail to see how that would make Rover tier 6
Indeed.That's highly debatable
She was weakened during both feats and Tatsumaki doesn't get injured further between them.Tats was weakened so nah
I know. One of things I dislike about vsbattles. Once again, this is just to say that they are stronger than their current ratings.That's still 7-A (unless there are actual tier 6 feats)
Ova 4.When tho?
NoWe do though unless the event has transpired differently in manga.
HmmTatsumaki's drill.
Downscale from a bombardment that would one-shot kill the S-Class Heroes that he was struggling against? Idk about thatI am suggesting he should fully scale since the same bombardment was intented to kill S-class. I am saying he should downscale since he still needs his orbs.
Then make a CRTI think it should be
Yes
I miswrote the first sentence. Either way, one-shotting was his plan, not necesserily what would happen.Downscale from a bombardment that would one-shot kill the S-Class Heroes that he was struggling against? Idk about that
Nah, it was just a throwaway comment. I don't care enough about that to make a CRTThen make a CRT
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Inverse Square Law would still play an important role as wellConcentrated bombardment goes brrr. No seriously, we can just calculate it.
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Pretty sure it was calculated at 8-B for his marblesInverse Square Law would still play an important role as well
Make an anime key. Literally who is stopping you?Anyways vsb is mid because they won’t let us make anime keys but when it comes time to use anime stuff for our manga scaling it’s a big ol “uhhhhh separate canon”
They will do ANYTHING to keep Boros downplayed no cap.
At the highest ends they're the size of the metropolitan area of a large city. So they're more like Cyprus or Vermont then they are Turkey or Germany (that's also only for a handful of cities).Wouldn’t they be more like state sized?
The rules regarding canonMake an anime key. Literally who is stopping you?
Boros from the anime is just Boros from the manga but cooler. The only reason his profile would be made is if an anime character would require it for scaling.4) Franchises which contain non-canonical spin-offs/movies/videogames, et cetera, each with their own continuities and feats, yet not to the extent that Marvel and DC Comics do, should only be allowed profiles for notable original characters from said spin-offs, and not alternate versions of canonical characters, unless they are very prominent and notable.
Ex: Main villains from non-canonical movies of Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon, One Piece and the like can be allowed profiles, yet most versions of Son Goku contained in games such as Shin Budokai should not, as the only difference they hold from Canon Goku lies in their extent of power. However, given the prominence and popularity of Dragon Ball GT, alternative versions of Goku and Vegeta from this continuity have been allowed. If the alternate non-canonical version of a character is notable enough in the sense of having their own feats, and a different role and purpose, then it is possible that profiles for them can be created.
literally everyone is stopping me smhMake an anime key. Literally who is stopping you?
I can't wait for ONE to confirm that the webcomic manga and anime are all part of the OPM Multiverse so that they're all equally canon.Boros from the anime is just Boros from the manga but cooler. The only reason his profile would be made is if an anime character would require it for scaling.
In all seriousness, a statement from the author saying the manga characters are just as strong as they are in the anime wouldn't be out of the question.I can't wait for ONE to confirm that the webcomic manga and anime are all part of the OPM Multiverse so that they're all equally canon.
to be fair, the Boros buffs are kind of blatantIn all seriousness, a statement from the author saying the manga characters are just as strong as they are in the anime wouldn't be out of the question.
The only ways I can think of getting tier 6 for some of the S-class and stronger monsters are:What do you guys think about gathering every single piece of evidence that indicates S-class and Dragon levels being tier 6 or at the very least, far stronger than their current ratings? It can be things nobody has brought up before, things that are already rejected, things that seem like a stretch or feats that are unscaleable alone. I will go first:
Yeah, the data book says the destroyed region is the metropolitan of City A in Dark thieves arc.The region of A-City is larger than the region of Z-City. That's not indicative of the sizes of the actual cities themselves
scan? Because the anime actually shows the WHOLE city in Sitch's technology, and by that I mean all the land region, not just the city itself.Yeah, the data book says the destroyed region is the metropolitan of City A in Dark thieves arc.
1 is not how threat levels work, they are about how threatening and disruptive a monster is.What do you guys think about gathering every single piece of evidence that indicates S-class and Dragon levels being tier 6 or at the very least, far stronger than their current ratings? It can be things nobody has brought up before, things that are already rejected, things that seem like a stretch or feats that are unscaleable alone. I will go first:
1) Demon levels are stated to be capable of destroying a whole city single-handedly which would mean it should be done in a reasonable time frame.
15) Bang was contemplating who would win between Saitama and himself despite Saitama's meteor feat and thought he could defeat him if the latter was off guard.
I am not talking about the description of demon levels. There is a line in the databook that says exactly what I said.1 is not how threat levels work, they are about how threatening and disruptive a monster is.
A large monster that can topple several buildings at once would be granted the threat level of Demon because its existence disrupts the activity of an entire city not because that monster on its own can destroy it.
Hell, the monster doesn't even need to destroy buildings, defeating 1-3 A Class Heroes on its own would be enough to be granted Demon level which is exactly how the Deep Sea King was rated as a Demon level threat.
Then he would be a wolf level. Any given wolf level could cause a massive lose of life if left unchecked.There are nuances to threat levels. Raw power, motive, intelligence, etc.. Agent 47 could hypothetically be a Tiger or Demon level if we went by his potential kill count and methods of mass homicide, but he'd still be a fodder Wolf level anyways, if even that.
Actually, if you pay attention, there is a tiny spot right at the center of the map that's far redder than the rest of A-city.scan? Because the anime actually shows the WHOLE city in Sitch's technology, and by that I mean all the land region, not just the city itself.
What are you implying with that?Actually, if you pay attention, there is a tiny spot right at the center of the map that's far redder than the rest of A-city.
It is the part that's actually destroyed.What are you implying with that?