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Isn't Tatsurochi barely two times stronger than Tats alone? Boros' CSRC should be much stronger than his MB punches and if it is 15× or more he still one shots
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Assuming Tatsurochi buffs Tatsumaki as much as Psykorochi buffed Psykos then I don't see why Tatsurochi won't be ridiculously more stronger than normal Tatsumaki.
Imo I think 100% Tatsumaki can high diff Released Boros so add Orochi's regeneration abilities and God just mega buffing her potency overall and I can see her being stronger than MB and probably tanking CSRC (she would need regeneration to survive though).
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he was the deep seak king, ocean king may show up lol
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But "God" played crucial role in that
It takes some time and Boros isn't just gonna wait there and let her absorb others.
If that happens I can see her stomping Boros
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Ocean King will show up acting like Disk's father and then get slashed up by Flashy Flash all as one big dragon ball reference
Wouldn't god play a crucial role in Tatsurochi too? If not then I agree Boros could beat her.
Assuming she starts at Psykorochi size (or smaller since it's Tatsumaki lol) then she will already be in the process of absorbing cities worth of people, and she can always shape shift to close up wounds.
I envisioned her stomping Boros tbh
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I assume you're joking / not taking it seriously?
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If anything it could foreshadow the whole brain and earth thing being the whole.
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Kill me
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High drag but lowkey reaching
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Btw I remember an argument someone gave on Discord for Darkshine being above EC and arguably even Bang (in terms of raw power). Figured I'd go ahead and share it real quick. And also a buff for Gyoro Gyoro (and by extension base/amped Psykos).
Gyoro Gyoro herself believes that Tatsumaki>EC, Gyoro Gyoro also directly claims that the power she is using against Garou is above that of what she thinks Tatsumaki's power level is. Gyoro Gyoro may have gotten Tatsumaki's strength wrong, but the fact that she thought the downplayed Tats>EC and believed that the power they were using against Garou is >Tatsumaki means that Gyoro Gyoro is confident that their heavily suppressed power on Garou would be enough power to also defeat EC, and there is little reason to assume Gyoro Gyoro is wrong about this as they can sense power and are the MA's battle strategist for a reason. Garou was able to adapt to and resist this power with only moderate difficulty, which suggests that Garou already surpassed EC. Garou then gets even stronger throughout the Orochi fight, and yet is still greatly inferior to Darkshine even when waking up, and literally gets borderline one-shotted by him.
As for the argument that Darkshine could still physically be above Bang, the argument there is a lot less objective and relies on a degree of subjectivity. Basically: Garou was 100% undeniably unconscious against Bang, whereas he was awake against Darkshine and was still only even after becoming Spiral Garou. We know that Garou is MUCH weaker when sleeping, as he didn't kill and only severely harmed PPP with a series of unrestrained blows, whereas a conscious Garou should be more than capable of one-shotting PPP, seeing as he could tank attacks from and somewhat keep up with Darkshine who casually one-shotted a transformed Bug God, who should easily be more durable than Darkshine. So conscious Garou>>>>>>>>>unconscious Garou, whereas the gap between Spiral Garou and unconscious Monster Garou is unquantifiable (not to mention unconscious Monster Garou was at first only using basic WSRSF instead of one of his more advanced styles, (until later in the battle when he began adapting again), meaning that arguing Spiral Garou could actually be superior to the Monster Garou on the surface isn't as absurd as it seems (although I don't personally believe it, just sharing the argument).
I think the first paragraph is definitely something that could be applied, but the second paragraph is something I just wanted to share. Thoughts?
Gyoro Gyoro herself believes that Tatsumaki>EC, Gyoro Gyoro also directly claims that the power she is using against Garou is above that of what she thinks Tatsumaki's power level is. Gyoro Gyoro may have gotten Tatsumaki's strength wrong, but the fact that she thought the downplayed Tats>EC and believed that the power they were using against Garou is >Tatsumaki means that Gyoro Gyoro is confident that their heavily suppressed power on Garou would be enough power to also defeat EC, and there is little reason to assume Gyoro Gyoro is wrong about this as they can sense power and are the MA's battle strategist for a reason. Garou was able to adapt to and resist this power with only moderate difficulty, which suggests that Garou already surpassed EC. Garou then gets even stronger throughout the Orochi fight, and yet is still greatly inferior to Darkshine even when waking up, and literally gets borderline one-shotted by him.
As for the argument that Darkshine could still physically be above Bang, the argument there is a lot less objective and relies on a degree of subjectivity. Basically: Garou was 100% undeniably unconscious against Bang, whereas he was awake against Darkshine and was still only even after becoming Spiral Garou. We know that Garou is MUCH weaker when sleeping, as he didn't kill and only severely harmed PPP with a series of unrestrained blows, whereas a conscious Garou should be more than capable of one-shotting PPP, seeing as he could tank attacks from and somewhat keep up with Darkshine who casually one-shotted a transformed Bug God, who should easily be more durable than Darkshine. So conscious Garou>>>>>>>>>unconscious Garou, whereas the gap between Spiral Garou and unconscious Monster Garou is unquantifiable (not to mention unconscious Monster Garou was at first only using basic WSRSF instead of one of his more advanced styles, (until later in the battle when he began adapting again), meaning that arguing Spiral Garou could actually be superior to the Monster Garou on the surface isn't as absurd as it seems (although I don't personally believe it, just sharing the argument).
I think the first paragraph is definitely something that could be applied, but the second paragraph is something I just wanted to share. Thoughts?
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Also, in Darkshine's weaknesses section, most of it is fine, but it says "it is unlikely he will ever break his limiter." this is a completely random comment and is not a weakness. That's like saying a planet level character's weakness is not being star level. Makes no sense.
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I think we already have Darkshine above EC.
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Wait really? I don't see the scaling chain for this.
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Try it, I’ll make you cry. - Black Sperm
This entire argument is just incorrect as Gyro says that she has power superior to Tatsumaki and her sister, but she doesn’t state to how much power she’s using at that moment.
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Dude, everyone is 7-B because of EC.
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“Gyoro Gyoro also directly claims that the power she is using against Garou is above that of what she thinks Tatsumaki's power level is.”
When was that?
When was that?
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She just says she’s stronger than the sisters when she’s keeping Garou in place, it doesn’t state the power she was using against Garou> the sisters
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Also GG said she was trying to converse her stamina, so Garou wouldn’t scale above her.
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Psykos could move so fast that Flashy Flash had trouble telling that Psykos was human, unlike Saitama.
Flashy is relativistic.
Tatsumaki scales far above Psykos.
Therefore, relativistic Tatsumaki.
Flashy is relativistic.
Tatsumaki scales far above Psykos.
Therefore, relativistic Tatsumaki.
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That was Saitama questioning if it was human.
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Point is: Flashy couldn’t tell, Saitama at least could.
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I dont think it had anything to do with speed.
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Misread this and I thought you said "Then there's the elephant in the room, Baquma". Even though you didn't write the pun, I am going to steal it.
I see Uskla already posted his Rover calc while I was away. I will say a more straightforward high end might be calcing the blast as a 30 kilometer shockwave at whatever pressure it needs to be to heavily damage buildings/shake the ground/separate rock. Going off our explosion yield calculations page, it could give decent results.
What do you think about adding a shockwave end to your Orochi calculation? I was doing my own and was planning on that method for the high end. It's simple, straightforward. Just calc the energy to create a shockwave that travels 30km. I think that makes sense, it would travel through the entire MA, down to Orochi's lair, and the excess energy would manifest itself as the "earthquake" we see
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Also, I should thank you for calcing this. I have been busier lately than I thought I would be and so I appreciate someone else finishing it, but I will have some more thoughts on your calc Uskla to share later.
Application season has been a real bicho this year.
Application season has been a real bicho this year.
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If a feat like this happened in OPM, who should do it Saitama, God or someone else
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It isn't clear whether she was using her full power or not there. However, the fact she says she wanted to save her stamina means she thinks Garou could give her some trouble. Otherwise she wouldn't be concerned.
Not true. The only thing Darkshine says is that the coordination of his muscles improved dramatically, so his durability should stay the same while asleep. Given that Bang was able to harm Garou, we have no reason to assume Bang doesn't scale to the durability of a much stronger Garou.
I think the last word is meant to be PPP instead of Darkshine. PPP has an unquantifiable large amp during the MA arc, so he could easily be more durable than Transformed Bug God.
There are some arguments that could be made to say Spiral Garou was stronger due to technique, but Beast Garou is stated later on to be using a combination of plenty of styles, so it's unknown. The fact is, by raw strength, Beast Garou is stronger than Spiral Garou, and his AP is comparable to his durability because he can harm characters that can harm him.
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It should be noted that Gyoro Gyoro statements can be shaky and scaling to it is weird because Gyoro is literally Psykos sending her ESP via wi-fi over a long distance to a puppet.
In other words, what Gyoro Gyoro says might not be true. What Gyoro says and what Psykos thinks may be very different.
Not that it matters; Gyoro Gyoro never said Garou was EC level.
In other words, what Gyoro Gyoro says might not be true. What Gyoro says and what Psykos thinks may be very different.
Not that it matters; Gyoro Gyoro never said Garou was EC level.
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Don’t remember that happening.
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Darkshine could hold Tatsumaki like an icecream cone.
This is very funny.
This is very funny.
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