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Anyway, GS should scale above HE's first orb because the reasons Ouros said before. Also, calling him Useless Emperor and being confident on himself after having seen the first orb implies he scales.
And we've addressed his reasoning.

It's not entirely wrong, but it's not really correct either.
 
Honsetly, if PS ever scales higher than the 6-C calc, HE should have a possibly rating putting him higher than PS because even near death he was sure to be stronger than him. I guess he could charge an energy ball to an extent where he can defeat PS.
 
No. He can slash things at a considerable distance, so it is safer to use the second image, in which we 100% know he is there.
But we see that he’s at the sphere, he literally jumps into it and stop it. He doesn’t even appear to be far from it and it’d make 0 sense for him to be far while cutting it.
 
But we see that he’s at the sphere, he literally jumps into it and stop it. He doesn’t even appear to be far from it and it’d make 0 sense for him to be far while cutting it.
You don't have a way to know, he could be at a distance because the angle doesn't let us see the distance between the sphere and him, so it's safer to use the second one.

Not arguing this anymore since it seems clear your intention to use the first image is baseless and its only objective is to downgrade characters.
 
Also, for Deku's smokescreen, Garou has been shown to be able to evolve quickly to environments that lessen his sight.
 
In a close quarters fight, Garou absolutley styles on Deku and finished him with a WSRSF/WCIF Combo, and finishing it off with an EHRF attack just kill him further.
 
Fair
What's stopping Garou from redirecting?
Pretty sure bang says despite him directing Garou’s attacks he can’t stop the shockwave from hitting him, even if this isnt the case, has Garou demonstrated redirecting literal shockwaves?
Edit: His attacks that have kilometers are OFA air blasts, which are easily dodge-able
….? I believe you’re underestimating the sheer size of his blasts, at this point running around them are necessary and even with 45% his shockwaves can traverse an entire city.
 
WICF and Roaring aura sky ripping fist as of latest chapter.

Idk how WICF works in dura neg, but RASRF sends shockwaves who travels through the opponents body causing internal damage and can incapacitate instantly against an opponent comparable tp him with just a graze.

The shockwaves can also travel through massive opponents like EC and Bomb stated it would keep rebounding through his carapace until it turned into dust.
 
https://**********/read/imgur/xOTthY4/1/1/
Something like that.
He says even tho he’s deflecting the punches, the shockwaves are still damaging him
 
….? I believe you’re underestimating the sheer size of his blasts, at this point running around them are necessary and even with 45% his shockwaves can traverse an entire city.
here, here

I think garou can dodge depending on the location.
Deku can fly, lol. Why would a ranged fighter fight in close range
So you are implying that Deku would just fly the entire fight?
Idk how WICF works in dura neg, but RASRF sends shockwaves who travels through the opponents body causing internal damage and can incapacitate instantly against an opponent comparable tp him with just a graze.
WICF is Bomb's style, which does this. RASRF is just a mixture of both WICF and WSRSF
 
here, here

I think garou can dodge depending on the location.
Is that city level range to 10 kilometers?
So you are implying that Deku would just fly the entire fight?
He would, he has shown doing this ever since he got control of float, constant flying even when he’s not fighting
That was EHRF
Your point…? He says he’s deflecting the punches but the shockwave themselves are still hitting him. This would imply he can’t physically interact with shockwaves.
It looks like he’s saying his eyes adjusted to the movements of the pellets. I don’t see how this helps him see in smokescreen that covers hundreds of meters to even kilometers, in rain (which heavily lowers its range).
 
Is that city level range to 10 kilometers?
No. I'm just saying that depending on he location (an area with a lot of obstacles, like where garou was in the scan, or a city), garou could jump out of the way. Though now that I think about it, Garou could just jump over the shockwave

Your point…? He says he’s deflecting the punches but the shockwave themselves are still hitting him. This would imply he can’t physically interact with shockwaves.
I'm not arguing against your point. I'm just saying what it was.
It looks like he’s saying his eyes adjusted to the movements of the pellets. I don’t see how this helps him see in smokescreen that covers hundreds of meters to even kilometers, in rain (which heavily lowers its range).
His eyes were adjusting to the area, which was very dark.
He would, he has shown doing this ever since he got control of float, constant flying even when he’s not fighting
And assuming Deku's only ways of attacking from range are OFA blasts, and black whips, Garou can just dodge and deflect.
Looks like garou’s range is 1m.
Deku’s range is at least 20km or 20,000x greater than garou’s range.
Range doesn't really matter in this fight, because Izuku is going to need to get close to do sure-hit substantial damage
 
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