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Your suggestion kind of got added in some way. Pretty much everyone disagreed with you on AP/Dura, so we just separated it as initial Garou since he evolved again just before and while fighting Rover.
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Ok, now for a discussion I brought up months ago. Scaling Gouketsu to the meteor
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How is Deku one shoting a guy above 715 Megatons?
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What’s 750 Mt to over 30 exatons?
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So deku one shotting
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What is the current Garou who just one-shot Vomited Fuhrer Ugly rated at? I would say at least 6-C, but I get the creeping feeling that the consensus is that Homeless >>> current Garou.
I insist that Golden Sperm's durability is at least comparable to Homeless's 6-C orbs, and that Platinum Sperm is more durable and powerful than Golden Sperm and Homeless Emperor, and that current Garou is comparable to Platinum Sperm.
If there are enough people who think the orb Sun-blade Atomic cut up is weaker than the original 6-C orb, I will happily make a blog post where I pixel scale both to find the size the difference. Because Sun-Blade Atomic dispersed that orb to nothing with much greater ease than he cut Golden Sperm (cutting off his arm required notable time and effort), a fact that supports the implication that Golden Sperm's existence ruined Homeless Emperor's scenario.
If Golden Sperm was so much less durable than Homeless's AP, I can't understand why Homeless would feel the need to get on Golden's good side/be upset at Golden's existence, since there were still trillions of Black Sperm left to wipe out humanity; plus if he can one-shot Golden with a single powered-up attack there's no real added difficulty.
I insist that Golden Sperm's durability is at least comparable to Homeless's 6-C orbs, and that Platinum Sperm is more durable and powerful than Golden Sperm and Homeless Emperor, and that current Garou is comparable to Platinum Sperm.
If there are enough people who think the orb Sun-blade Atomic cut up is weaker than the original 6-C orb, I will happily make a blog post where I pixel scale both to find the size the difference. Because Sun-Blade Atomic dispersed that orb to nothing with much greater ease than he cut Golden Sperm (cutting off his arm required notable time and effort), a fact that supports the implication that Golden Sperm's existence ruined Homeless Emperor's scenario.
If Golden Sperm was so much less durable than Homeless's AP, I can't understand why Homeless would feel the need to get on Golden's good side/be upset at Golden's existence, since there were still trillions of Black Sperm left to wipe out humanity; plus if he can one-shot Golden with a single powered-up attack there's no real added difficulty.
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Y?
We already discussed and the 6-C cube dwarfed FU who practically dwarfs the entire cast.
Also didn’t it take him countless strikes to stop the orb?
Same can be said for GS
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The orby is comparable to atomic in size
even ignoring all of FU other showings for size he’s clearly huge
This is the 6-C orb compared to Fu
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If Golden Sperm is vastly less durable than Homeless's AP, Homeless should let his perfect scenario continue as planned and casually one-shot Golden Sperm whenever convenient- ideally after Golden Sperm helps the trillions of remaining Black Sperm wipe out humanity for Homeless. That Homeless felt the need to get off his throne and get on Golden Sperm's good side requires him to respect Golden Sperm's power, something which doesn't make sense if Golden Sperm poses no threat to him.
In that case, I will pixel scale both orbs. The countless strikes doesn't effect Atomic's placement, since he was previously low 7-B because he sliced up Psykorochi's beam with countless strikes. Since they're functionally simultaneous and all part of the same move (the atomic slash), we're not going to divide the AP by the number of slashes.
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Oh, so Golden Sperm currently downscales from the 6-C orb to at least high 7-A to account for ambiguities? I don't have problems with that scaling. I just think putting Golden Sperm and those who scale above him far enough below Homeless to get one-shot is silly
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Partially. It's also because the second orb is moderately smaller and Atomic Samurai took a few hits to destroy it.
This might be a good topic, since Large Mountain level (which is at most 4.3 times lower than Island level) is getting removed.
This might be a good topic, since Large Mountain level (which is at most 4.3 times lower than Island level) is getting removed.
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His perfect scenario was Black sperm divide to the max and kill all humans, the fact that he fused destroys that plan so I fail to understanding your argument.
Him getting on his good side isn’t an argument for strength, all this proves is that he has another plan, and the same argument can be made for GS. He states he needs to sneak HE in order to kill him, yet, despite wanting to kill him, he still doesn’t do it head up after fusing into GS. Does this mean he still needs to sneak him to win?
And what does durability have to do with it, Homeless could be getting on his good side because of his overwhelming speed.
The difference between Psykorochi’s feat and this one is that Atomic actually cut it up with each slice, with this one not dispersing until he let out these countless strikes.
Whatever amount of slices it took, his ap should be divided by that number (if the orb is even agreed to scale to 6-C).
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Wait really? About time. Now if only low 7-C and low 7-B could get removed as well.
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Well, then we'll need to change Golden Sperm's description, it's based on Darkshine at the moment.
Golden Sperm saved Homeless when he was an instant away from death, so if Homeless was such a problem he needed a sneak attack to win it would have been wise to leave him to die there. No, Golden Sperm saved him there and most people would tell you that was because Homeless serves Golden Sperm in the same way Black Sperm served Homeless- he's a useful ally that Golden can take out when he ceases to be useful.
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Of course GS can take him out, to GS Homeless is literally a normal human outside of his reactions, which would be slower than GS
I still don’t see why this makes him 6-C
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The tier itself?
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Deku ain't even 30 exatons
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Hard for me to take him seriously here while he's pinned down here lolDoesn’t homeless state he’s stronger than GS?
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That scan is the orb as it's exploding.
The orby is comparable to atomic in size
even ignoring all of FU other showings for size he’s clearly huge
This is the 6-C orb compared to Fu
Use this one.
https://**********/read/gist/OPM/141/24/
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What does being pinned down have to do with anything
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It was a joke.
But if you think that statement means anything substantive idk what to tell you.
But if you think that statement means anything substantive idk what to tell you.
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The orb itself wasn’t exploding yet, what we see at first was the moment he created the orb, several panels later we see it and we know he puts energy in his orb over time which would explain why this one is larger. When his orb explodes it makes, well an explosion. We even see the outline of the original orb while the things on the outside (?) is likely what is expanding
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I don’t see why it’s unbelievable when there’s literally nothing going against it
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So we've never seen a villain bragging before then?
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I didn’t say that, there’s no reason to assume the statement was hyperbole in this instance.
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It's expanding due to being in the process of exploding.
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Here's a bird's eye view of the orb Atomic disperses. It looks much bigger compared to the people, that angle you chose is a little deceptive for a size comparison.
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I've made a calculation for Metal Knight's missiles in the webcomic.
They're staying.
No, just the ratings.
If AS is even a 10th as powerful as that orb, he's Mountain level (close to a + tier as well).
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Even if you say that, which I don’t agree with, the original orb is still larger than the one atomic cut+ ur link doesn’t work
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Which one, the cubari moe or the lightshot?
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I’ve counted 35 cuts. 1.87e19/35=5.3428571e+17 joules or barely 7-A
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I’m talking about the one atomic cut, u said birds eye view so let’s see it, even tho we literally see atomic in comparison to it
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I was just going by what I remember, tbh. There were way more slashes than I recalled.
