STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[truelight810]

hi
I'm new here (english is not my first language)
I wanted to express my thoughts on the orochi calc:


this calc is a low ball to orochi's feat
1) it does not take into account the most important part of what orochi did: he moved a portion of the Earth's core THROUGH the mantle (liquid!)
kinetic energy would be fine if the "bullet" goes through vacuum or air but here it is DIFFERENT! is crossing THE TERRESTRIAL MANTLE! this means that the frictional force that opposes the movement of the "bullet" and the earth pressure are tremendously enormous and cannot be ignored !!!
2) the object moves in the opposite direction to the earth's gravity, I have no idea how this works since the object is inside the earth itself, but I think that the earth's gravity still has some kind of influence
taking into account (1) the result would be several orders of magnetudo larger than that estimated here

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

This might be interesting.

 

[Tural2004]

Dude, I suck at calculating. This is the third time I write this comment. Anyway, I don't think anyone here can calculate the value for the first one. And for second one GMm[1/R – 1/2r] should work. The answer is over 8.6 × 10^29 Joules. We should add this to previous value. But the tiering stays same.

 

[ImposingTiger]

That is dwarf star level im I'm reading correctly

 

[Tural2004]

That is dwarf star level im I'm reading correctly

No, that's moon level. The answer is in joules, not in tonnes

 

[Kachon123]

hi
I'm new here (english is not my first language)
I wanted to express my thoughts on the orochi calc:


this calc is a low ball to orochi's feat
1) it does not take into account the most important part of what orochi did: he moved a portion of the Earth's core THROUGH the mantle (liquid!)
kinetic energy would be fine if the "bullet" goes through vacuum or air but here it is DIFFERENT! is crossing THE TERRESTRIAL MANTLE! this means that the frictional force that opposes the movement of the "bullet" and the earth pressure are tremendously enormous and cannot be ignored !!!
2) the object moves in the opposite direction to the earth's gravity, I have no idea how this works since the object is inside the earth itself, but I think that the earth's gravity still has some kind of influence
taking into account (1) the result would be several orders of magnetudo larger than that estimated here

You should bring this up to calc member. This could be very huge.

 

[ImposingTiger]

Isn't 10 to the 29 High 5-A?

 

[Tural2004]

Isn't 10 to the 29 High 5-A?

In tonnes yes. In joules no

 

[ImposingTiger]

You should bring this up to calc member. This could be very huge.

It could be treated as an outlier

 

[ImposingTiger]

In tonnes yes. In joules no

Ahh ok ok

 

[Kachon123]

It could be treated as an outlier

Why would it be an outlier?

 

[ImposingTiger]

Why would it be an outlier?

I thought it was High5-A

 

[Kachon123]

I thought it was High5-A

Even if it was, why would it be an outlier?

 

[truelight810]

You should bring this up to calc member. This could be very huge.

how can i do it?

 

[ImposingTiger]

People would treat it as inconsistent with every other god tier feat, which doesn't break the 6 level barrier

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

You had me there when you brought up High 5-A, because if that was true I might have to raise an eyebrow.

Even if it was, why would it be an outlier?

Because it is so incredibly vastly above every other feat performed thus far? Even surpassing the feat of Saitama's or Psykorochi (And arguably Boros) best feat, both of which are (the third one being debatable) far superior to Orochi. Plus the God tiers are very consistent when it comes to tier 6

 

[Kachon123]

People would treat it as inconsistent with every other god tier feat, which doesn't break the 6 level barrier

Boros mass blowout that Qwasdef brought up was calced at very high end 5-B, so it wouldn't be a stretch. Psykorochi would just scale. Her God beam wasn't even her going all out.

 

[ImposingTiger]

Boros mass blowout that Qwasdef brought up was calced at very high end 5-B, so it wouldn't be a stretch. Psykorochi would just scale. Her God beam wasn't even her going all out.

You know, I'm not going to argue against it.

 

[LordTracer]

Boros mass blowout that Qwasdef brought up was calced at very high end 5-B, so it wouldn't be a stretch.

It was Low 5-B, not 5-B, and using that end was rejected, so…

 

[Kachon123]

It was Low 5-B, not 5-B, and using that end was rejected, so…

Ah, mb.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Boros mass blowout that Qwasdef brought up was calced at very high end 5-B, so it wouldn't be a stretch. Psykorochi would just scale. Her God beam wasn't even her going all out.

Not really? The mass ejection is kind of a reach.

Plus Psykorochi's feat is nowhere even a plus in High 6-A.

But I don't wanna get into whether or not Low 5-B is an outlier or not (I still think it's bullshit but whatever). So I'll drop it here

 

[Tural2004]

Can the calculation above be accepted? If yes, we can just add it the previous value and the tiering stays same anyway

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Can the calculation above be accepted? If yes, we can just add it the previous value and the tiering stays same anyway

No staff or anyone highly knowledgeable on calcs has even evaluated it.

 

[Tural2004]

But I don't wanna get into whether or not Low 5-B is an outlier or not (I still think it's bullshit but whatever). So I'll drop it here

It was the first time Orochi was going all out so according to the rules it can't be treated as an outlier.

 

[Tural2004]

No staff or anyone highly knowledgeable on calcs has even evaluated it.

Ok. Sorry. I still don't know how things work here

 

[ImposingTiger]

It was the first time Orochi was going all out so according to the rules it can't be treated as an outlier.

Those are not the rules lol

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It was the first time Orochi was going all out so according to the rules it can't be treated as outlier.

Going all out or not going all out isn't the only thing that counts as an outlier.

People love to forget stuff like consistency or even narrative. But like I said, I don't care about debating about it now so I'm dropping it.

 

[Tural2004]

Those are not the rules lol

Hmm... I was sure I read something about it, but I might be wrong

 

[ImposingTiger]

Hmm... I was sure I read something about it, but I might be wrong

Consistency is above everything else

 

[Tural2004]

People love to forget stuff like consistency or even narrative. But like I said, I don't care about debating about it now so I'm dropping it.

I mean besides Boros > Orochi nothing is against it. But I don't feel like arguing about it either. So I am dropping it as well

 

[Tural2004]

Consistency is above everything else

A quote from vsbattles wiki

"Generally, inconsistencies should not be accepted unless there is a good reason for it (such as a character who usually holds back on his or her full power)."

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Sonic has Electricity Generation via Discharge Fist which comes from the webcomic if I'm not wrong. Shouldn't that be removed?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Sure, just remove it

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Sure, just remove it

Done.

 

[SemiRaedi]

Does anyone here believe that Murata's statement about Geryu being more skilled than Tatsumaki still holds weight?

 

[Kachon123]

Does anyone here believe that Murata's statement about Geryu being more skilled than Tatsumaki still holds weight?

Murata just said that his ability to throw things. Gery is able to reduce the friction on objects, so he can move the object at faster speeds without having the object burn up while Tats can't do that.

 

[Quangotjokes]

Naruto is Universe level on the site now lol we can't let them outwank us

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Naruto is Universe level on the site now lol we can't let them outwank us

Wait how

 

[Kachon123]

Naruto is Universe level on the site now lol we can't let them outwank us

????

 

[LordTracer]

Wait how

It’s not Universe level, I don’t know what he’s on about