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Bruh, you had me hyped for a sec
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Also FYI, you can't upscale speed like that with a few rare exceptionsLikes of EC Genos, Awakened Cockroah and Sonic are faster than normal peak demons. So sub-relativistic or higher(since everybody is stronger in manga) for them.
I know. That comment was a joke anyway. Also by valid, I meant MHS+ Demons. Can it be accepted?Also FYI, you can't upscale speed like that with a few rare exceptions
I don't think those were actual lasers, either. But...Becayuse those aren't actual lasers, nor do they qualify for it.
Can you show the feat first?I know. That comment was a joke anyway. Also by valid, I meant MHS+ Demons. Can it be accepted?
It being stated to be a laser doesn't mean it's LS, also we see the Lasers bend, which is something real lasers don't do. And I don't recall the former happening.I don't think those were actual lasers, either. But...
The beam refracts in a new material, such as a liquid.
And
"The head can open and close to fure energy as lasers"
From the databook.
I'm not calling it LS, nor do I agree with it, but Light refracts off of liquids, which is what happened in the manga.It being stated to be a laser doesn't mean it's LS, also we see the Lasers bend, which is something real lasers don't do. And I don't recall the former happening.
That's not an actual feat, it was just a comparison. Velocity Snail can go 390 km/h. I compared it to normal snails. I am still new to vsbattles though so I don't know if there is a rule that prevents this kind of comparison.Can you show the feat first?
Lasers are lightspeed though. A quote from wiki:It being stated to be a laser doesn't mean it's LS, also we see the Lasers bend, which is something real lasers don't do. And I don't recall the former happening.
Wasn't the snail really slow, if so, I doubt it was moving at MHS+. Unless Humans in OPM are that fast.That's not an actual feat, it was just a comparison. Velocity Snail can go 390 km/h. I am still new to vsbattles though so I don't know if there is a rule that prevents this kind of comparison.
I know that, I'm asking if it did happened, and you could at least give a scan.I'm not calling it LS, nor do I agree with it, but Light refracts off of liquids, which is what happened in the manga.
Laser is a very commonly thrown around word in fiction. Anything that looks like an energy projection attack has tendency to be called lasers. Plus, this only follows one of the requirements for it to be truly lightspeed. And Light doesn't bend at all. There isn't enough to prove this moves as fast as an actual laser does. This is pretty much just a regular energy beam.Lasers are lightspeed though. A quote from wiki:
"A laser is a device that emits light through a process of optical amplification based on the stimulated emission of electromagnetic radiation"
Aslo, in OPM there are a lot of things that don't happen in real life
here.I know that, I'm asking if it did happened, and you could at least give a scan.
I mean, though a lot of works do tend to throw around "laser", in this instance, it actually acts as light.I'm kind of neutral on it being actual lasers, but fiction uses the term 'laser' how ever it likes. For example, laser cannons typically fire explosive blobs of energy.
I am not saying that Snail is MHS+. I am saying peak Demons can possibly be MHS+. That snail was moving around 108000 times faster than a normal snail. So it shouldn't be far fetched to say peak demons move 108000 times faster than normal peak humans.Wasn't the snail really slow, if so, I doubt it was moving at MHS+. Unless Humans in OPM are that fast.
I agreeLaser is a very commonly thrown around word in fiction. Anything that looks like an energy projection attack has tendency to be called lasers. Plus, this only follows one of the requirements for it to be truly lightspeed. And Light doesn't bend at all. There isn't enough to prove this moves as fast as an actual laser does. This is pretty much just a regular energy beam.
Plus, even then, it'd be a huge outlier considering most of their speed feats in this category don't even exceed MHS+. And the narrative itself only has god tiers at like Relativistic to FTL levels. And when stuff near that category is deemed as very impressive. It's not even consistent.
But what makes you say demons perceive the snail as slow as humans do? And what makes you say it's that much faster than a regulkar snail. Being bigger doesn't make it that much fasterI am not saying that Snail is MHS+. I am saying peak Demons can possibly be MHS+. That snail was moving around 108000 times faster than a normal snail. So it shouldn't be far fetched to say peak demons move 108000 times faster than normal peak humans.
It is directly stated that Velocity snail was going 390km/h in story itselfAnd what makes you say it's that much faster than a regulkar snail.
Scan? Plus the first question.It is directly stated that Velocity snail was going 390km/h in story itself
It only follows one requirement to be SOL.Those were light lasers, but prob just outlier for Genos.
hereScan? Plus the first question.
Scan?
I mean that's common sense. Also, currently Velocity Snail is by far the slowest demon which doesn't condradict with it being snailPlus the first question.
The liquid thing is the only thing that proves it's LS. What are the other 2? Plus light doesn't bend at all :/If the liquid thing is true it would follow 3 requirements.
No? It being a snail doesn't mean every other monster views it as slow as one. That's a baseless assumption.I mean that's common sense. Also, currently Velocity Snail is by far the slowest demon which doesn't condradict with it being snail
Even in real life light naturally bends(but very slightly) With OPM technology it doesn't seem to be impossibleThe liquid thing is the only thing that proves it's LS. What are the other 2? Plus light doesn't bend at all :/
It's referred to as light and behaves like light when it disperses due to the steam.The liquid thing is the only thing that proves it's LS. What are the other 2? Plus light doesn't bend at all :/
What about my second point? Even A-class heroes are accepted as supersonicNo? It being a snail doesn't mean every other monster views it as slow as one. That's a baseless assumption.
Being referred to as light is not a valid way to scale it to LS. And as for the latter, Maybe so. But again, It's contradicted by it bending.It's referred to as light and behaves like light when it disperses due to the steam.
It only projects energy beams, it's never stated to be able to control it. Agains, a baseless assumptionEven in real life light naturally bends(but very slightly) With OPM technology it doesn't seem to be impossible
A-Class heroes can scale above it.What about my second point? Even A-class heroes are accepted as faster than that
So by that logic it is bend by itself?It only projects energy beams, it's never stated to be able to control it. Agains, a baseless assumption
Tha's my point. Demons are much faster than A-class with exception of that Snail. No demon is below supersonic besides Velocity Snail. It is very slow compared other monstersA-Class heroes can scale above it.
So how does it follow Genos?Is it stated he's manipulating it? We just see him shoot it out. And by the looks of it, I don't think he can even control it
But that doesn't mean you can add a multiplier that huge. Them being faster then it does not equate to them viewing it as how humans view a snail.Tha's my point. Demons are much faster than A-class with exception of that Snail. No demon is below supersonic besides Velocity Snail. It is very slow compared other monsters
We see him move around and aiming his cannons at Genos?So how does it follow Genos?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Laser/Light_Beam_Dodging_FeatsBeing referred to as light is not a valid way to scale it to LS. And as for the latter, Maybe so. But again, It's contradicted by it bending.