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Bruh, you had me hyped for a sec
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Becayuse those aren't actual lasers, nor do they qualify for it. And Awakened Cockroach's statement is definitely hyperbole. Considering the god tiers treat Almost SOL as impressive.
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Also FYI, you can't upscale speed like that with a few rare exceptions
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I know. That comment was a joke anyway. Also by valid, I meant MHS+ Demons. Can it be accepted?
I don't think those were actual lasers, either. But...
The beam refracts in a new material, such as a liquid. (This is said in original calculation)
And
"The head can open and close to fire energy as lasers"
From the databook.
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Can you show the feat first?
It being stated to be a laser doesn't mean it's LS, also we see the Lasers bend, which is something real lasers don't do. And I don't recall the former happening.
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I'm not calling it LS, nor do I agree with it, but Light refracts off of liquids, which is what happened in the manga.
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That's not an actual feat, it was just a comparison. Velocity Snail can go 390 km/h. I compared it to normal snails. I am still new to vsbattles though so I don't know if there is a rule that prevents this kind of comparison.
Lasers are lightspeed though. A quote from wiki:
"A laser is a device that emits light through a process of optical amplification based on the stimulated emission of electromagnetic radiation"
Doesn't that mean it is basically light?
Also, in OPM there are a lot of things that don't happen in real life
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Wasn't the snail really slow, if so, I doubt it was moving at MHS+. Unless Humans in OPM are that fast.
I know that, I'm asking if it did happened, and you could at least give a scan.
Laser is a very commonly thrown around word in fiction. Anything that looks like an energy projection attack has tendency to be called lasers. Plus, this only follows one of the requirements for it to be truly lightspeed. And Light doesn't bend at all. There isn't enough to prove this moves as fast as an actual laser does. This is pretty much just a regular energy beam.
Plus, even then, it'd be a huge outlier considering most of their speed feats in this category don't even exceed MHS+. And the narrative itself only has god tiers at like Relativistic to FTL levels. And when stuff near that category is deemed as very impressive. It's not even consistent.
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I mean, though a lot of works do tend to throw around "laser", in this instance, it actually acts as light.
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I am not saying that Snail is MHS+. I am saying peak Demons can possibly be MHS+. That snail was moving around 108000 times faster than a normal snail. So it shouldn't be far fetched to say peak demons move 108000 times faster than normal peak humans.
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Looking at that blog, they're actually stated to be light. However, they also bend without water in many instances (I'm not saying this doesn't mean it's SOL, just that it has elements of both).
Like I said, though, I don't really have an opinion here. Just as long as we're not using "mysterious light energy" from Homeless Emperor as justification.
Like I said, though, I don't really have an opinion here. Just as long as we're not using "mysterious light energy" from Homeless Emperor as justification.
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I agree
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But what makes you say demons perceive the snail as slow as humans do? And what makes you say it's that much faster than a regulkar snail. Being bigger doesn't make it that much faster
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It is directly stated that Velocity snail was going 390km/h in story itself
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Scan? Plus the first question.
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Those were light lasers, but prob just outlier for Genos.
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It only follows one requirement to be SOL.
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I mean that's common sense. Also, currently Velocity Snail is by far the slowest demon which doesn't condradict with it being snail
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If the liquid thing is true it would follow 3 requirements.
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The liquid thing is the only thing that proves it's LS. What are the other 2? Plus light doesn't bend at all :/
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No? It being a snail doesn't mean every other monster views it as slow as one. That's a baseless assumption.
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Even in real life light naturally bends(but very slightly) With OPM technology it doesn't seem to be impossible
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It's referred to as light and behaves like light when it disperses due to the steam.
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What about my second point? Even A-class heroes are accepted as supersonic
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Being referred to as light is not a valid way to scale it to LS. And as for the latter, Maybe so. But again, It's contradicted by it bending.
It only projects energy beams, it's never stated to be able to control it. Agains, a baseless assumption
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A-Class heroes can scale above it.
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So by that logic it is bend by itself?
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Is it stated he's manipulating it? We just see him shoot it out. And by the looks of it, I don't think he can even control it
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Tha's my point. Demons are much faster than A-class with exception of that Snail. No demon is below supersonic besides Velocity Snail. It is very slow compared other monsters
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It's a light based laser, steam doesn't disperse energy. It's just an outlier.
Also, he's clearly shown controlling them.
Also, he's clearly shown controlling them.
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So how does it follow Genos?
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But that doesn't mean you can add a multiplier that huge. Them being faster then it does not equate to them viewing it as how humans view a snail.
We see him move around and aiming his cannons at Genos?
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This
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Laser/Light_Beam_Dodging_Feats
- It is stated to be composed/consisting of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source. ✓
- The beam refracts in a new material, such as a liquid or... ✓
- The beam diffuses in a reasonably realistic way ✓
The laser is checked by 3 of the Wiki's critera of it being a Laser made of Light.
Either way, this is an outlier.
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Then fair I guess. But Genos should in no way to scale to this. And the demons being MHS+ because of the snail is an absolute no.
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We've all said it was an outlier.
