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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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But can be added to attack speed for G4 for his battles
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Iaian is over 133 times faster. BoS Genos who is one of the weakest demons is faster than Iaian. And we see that he gets massively stronger with each upgrade. He went from losing to base DSK to two shoting wet DSK in one upgrade. There are like 6 or 7 upgrades between BoS Genos and EC Genos who is peak Demon. So while I agree that multiplier can't be used, it doesn't seem to be unreasonable, either
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Where does Iaian being 113 times faster come from? Are you using the manga. We don't cross scale.
Plus, upscaling several times does not move you from Supersonic to MHS+
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I know. That's why I said "when that monster is introduced" at the beginning.
That depends on how strong Genos gets. Assuming he gets 3 times stronger with each upgrade, 3^6 × 133 = 96957. That's close to 108000. But that can't be used because of several reasons
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But even so, that still doesn't justify such a vast multiplier, especially when Iaian is almost bordering on S-Class.
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I mean that scaling was for peak demons, not for all of demons. But fair enough
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The snail is a very slow demon, several A-Class can outrun it, the demons are faster than the A-Class. So therefore it means that Demons view the Snail as how a human views a snail in speed.
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There is a monster called Explosive Velocity Snail in the webcomic. We discuss if its speed can be used for comparison
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I know. That was for fun, to begin with. Not a serious argument
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Anyway off topic. Boros' ratings look ugly as hell, like that MB one looks atrocious, my eyes are melting.
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hi
I'm new here (english is not my first language)
I wanted to express my thoughts on the orochi calc:
this calc is a low ball to orochi's feat
1) it does not take into account the most important part of what orochi did: he moved a portion of the Earth's core THROUGH the mantle (liquid!)
kinetic energy would be fine if the "bullet" goes through vacuum or air but here it is DIFFERENT! is crossing THE TERRESTRIAL MANTLE! this means that the frictional force that opposes the movement of the "bullet" and the earth pressure are tremendously enormous and cannot be ignored !!!
2) the object moves in the opposite direction to the earth's gravity, I have no idea how this works since the object is inside the earth itself, but I think that the earth's gravity still has some kind of influence
taking into account (1) the result would be several orders of magnetudo larger than that estimated here
I'm new here (english is not my first language)
I wanted to express my thoughts on the orochi calc:
this calc is a low ball to orochi's feat
1) it does not take into account the most important part of what orochi did: he moved a portion of the Earth's core THROUGH the mantle (liquid!)
kinetic energy would be fine if the "bullet" goes through vacuum or air but here it is DIFFERENT! is crossing THE TERRESTRIAL MANTLE! this means that the frictional force that opposes the movement of the "bullet" and the earth pressure are tremendously enormous and cannot be ignored !!!
2) the object moves in the opposite direction to the earth's gravity, I have no idea how this works since the object is inside the earth itself, but I think that the earth's gravity still has some kind of influence
taking into account (1) the result would be several orders of magnetudo larger than that estimated here
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This might be interesting.
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Dude, I suck at calculating. This is the third time I write this comment. Anyway, I don't think anyone here can calculate the value for the first one. And for second one GMm[1/R – 1/2r] should work. The answer is over 8.6 × 10^29 Joules. We should add this to previous value. But the tiering stays same.
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That is dwarf star level im I'm reading correctly
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No, that's moon level. The answer is in joules, not in tonnes
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You should bring this up to calc member. This could be very huge.
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Isn't 10 to the 29 High 5-A?
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In tonnes yes. In joules no
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It could be treated as an outlier
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Ahh ok ok
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Why would it be an outlier?
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I thought it was High5-A
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Even if it was, why would it be an outlier?
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how can i do it?
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People would treat it as inconsistent with every other god tier feat, which doesn't break the 6 level barrier
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You had me there when you brought up High 5-A, because if that was true I might have to raise an eyebrow.
Because it is so incredibly vastly above every other feat performed thus far? Even surpassing the feat of Saitama's or Psykorochi (And arguably Boros) best feat, both of which are (the third one being debatable) far superior to Orochi. Plus the God tiers are very consistent when it comes to tier 6
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Boros mass blowout that Qwasdef brought up was calced at very high end 5-B, so it wouldn't be a stretch. Psykorochi would just scale. Her God beam wasn't even her going all out.
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You know, I'm not going to argue against it.
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It was Low 5-B, not 5-B, and using that end was rejected, so…
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Ah, mb.
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Not really? The mass ejection is kind of a reach.
Plus Psykorochi's feat is nowhere even a plus in High 6-A.
But I don't wanna get into whether or not Low 5-B is an outlier or not (I still think it's bullshit but whatever). So I'll drop it here
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No staff or anyone highly knowledgeable on calcs has even evaluated it.
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It was the first time Orochi was going all out so according to the rules it can't be treated as an outlier.
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Ok. Sorry. I still don't know how things work here
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Those are not the rules lol
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Going all out or not going all out isn't the only thing that counts as an outlier.
People love to forget stuff like consistency or even narrative. But like I said, I don't care about debating about it now so I'm dropping it.
