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Iaian is over 133 times faster. BoS Genos who is one of the weakest demons is faster than Iaian. And we see that he gets massively stronger with each upgrade. He went from losing to base DSK to two shoting wet DSK in one upgrade. There are like 6 or 7 upgrades between BoS Genos and EC Genos who is peak Demon. So while I agree that multiplier can't be used, it doesn't seem to be unreasonable, eitherBut that doesn't mean you can add a multiplier that huge. Them being faster then it does not equate to them viewing it as how humans view a snail.
Where does Iaian being 113 times faster come from? Are you using the manga. We don't cross scale.Iaian is over 133 times faster. BoS Genos who is one of the weakest demons is faster than Iaian. And we see that he gets massively stronger with each upgrade. He went from losing to base DSK to two shoting wet DSK in one upgrade. There are like 6 or 7 upgrades between BoS Genos and EC Genos who is peak Demon. So while I agree that multiplier can't be used, it doesn't seem to be unreasonable, either
I know. That's why I said "when that monster is introduced" at the beginning.Where does Iaian being 113 times faster come from? Are you using the manga. We don't cross scale.
That depends on how strong Genos gets. Assuming he gets 3 times stronger with each upgrade, 3^6 × 133 = 96957. That's close to 108000. But that can't be used because of several reasonsPlus, upscaling several times does not move you from Supersonic to MHS+
But even so, that still doesn't justify such a vast multiplier, especially when Iaian is almost bordering on S-Class.I know. That's why I said "when that monster is introduced" at the beginning.
I mean that scaling was for peak demons, not for all of demons. But fair enoughBut even so, that still doesn't justify such a vast multiplier, especially when Iaian is almost bordering on S-Class.
The snail is a very slow demon, several A-Class can outrun it, the demons are faster than the A-Class. So therefore it means that Demons view the Snail as how a human views a snail in speed.Sorry, what's the crux of the whole snail thing?
There is a monster called Explosive Velocity Snail in the webcomic. We discuss if its speed can be used for comparisonSorry, what's the crux of the whole snail thing?
I know. That was for fun, to begin with. Not a serious argumentThat's way too massive an assumption.
No, that's moon level. The answer is in joules, not in tonnesThat is dwarf star level im I'm reading correctly
You should bring this up to calc member. This could be very huge.hi
I'm new here (english is not my first language)
I wanted to express my thoughts on the orochi calc:
this calc is a low ball to orochi's feat
1) it does not take into account the most important part of what orochi did: he moved a portion of the Earth's core THROUGH the mantle (liquid!)
kinetic energy would be fine if the "bullet" goes through vacuum or air but here it is DIFFERENT! is crossing THE TERRESTRIAL MANTLE! this means that the frictional force that opposes the movement of the "bullet" and the earth pressure are tremendously enormous and cannot be ignored !!!
2) the object moves in the opposite direction to the earth's gravity, I have no idea how this works since the object is inside the earth itself, but I think that the earth's gravity still has some kind of influence
taking into account (1) the result would be several orders of magnetudo larger than that estimated here
In tonnes yes. In joules noIsn't 10 to the 29 High 5-A?
It could be treated as an outlierYou should bring this up to calc member. This could be very huge.
Ahh ok okIn tonnes yes. In joules no
Why would it be an outlier?It could be treated as an outlier
I thought it was High5-AWhy would it be an outlier?
Even if it was, why would it be an outlier?I thought it was High5-A
how can i do it?You should bring this up to calc member. This could be very huge.
Because it is so incredibly vastly above every other feat performed thus far? Even surpassing the feat of Saitama's or Psykorochi (And arguably Boros) best feat, both of which are (the third one being debatable) far superior to Orochi. Plus the God tiers are very consistent when it comes to tier 6Even if it was, why would it be an outlier?
Boros mass blowout that Qwasdef brought up was calced at very high end 5-B, so it wouldn't be a stretch. Psykorochi would just scale. Her God beam wasn't even her going all out.People would treat it as inconsistent with every other god tier feat, which doesn't break the 6 level barrier
You know, I'm not going to argue against it.Boros mass blowout that Qwasdef brought up was calced at very high end 5-B, so it wouldn't be a stretch. Psykorochi would just scale. Her God beam wasn't even her going all out.
It was Low 5-B, not 5-B, and using that end was rejected, so…Boros mass blowout that Qwasdef brought up was calced at very high end 5-B, so it wouldn't be a stretch.
Ah, mb.It was Low 5-B, not 5-B, and using that end was rejected, so…
Not really? The mass ejection is kind of a reach.Boros mass blowout that Qwasdef brought up was calced at very high end 5-B, so it wouldn't be a stretch. Psykorochi would just scale. Her God beam wasn't even her going all out.
No staff or anyone highly knowledgeable on calcs has even evaluated it.Can the calculation above be accepted? If yes, we can just add it the previous value and the tiering stays same anyway
It was the first time Orochi was going all out so according to the rules it can't be treated as an outlier.But I don't wanna get into whether or not Low 5-B is an outlier or not (I still think it's bullshit but whatever). So I'll drop it here
Ok. Sorry. I still don't know how things work hereNo staff or anyone highly knowledgeable on calcs has even evaluated it.
Those are not the rules lolIt was the first time Orochi was going all out so according to the rules it can't be treated as an outlier.
Going all out or not going all out isn't the only thing that counts as an outlier.It was the first time Orochi was going all out so according to the rules it can't be treated as outlier.