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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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I used GPE, not KE
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I got roughly 7 kilotons or Town level, I probably screwed up somewhere tho
I thought we abandoned that?
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We never did, the reason I kept asking about it was because it was brought up once in the CRT, and we never really came up with a decision.
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What's the new mass and size comparison?
I don't really see why we'd have any reason to abandon it. It's pretty clear that EC's in another league compared to previous monsters. At the very least, it's clear enough to get a possibly rating if we end up downgrading these characters.
Edit: I guess we might have because VM's calc is 30 megatons.
PE 100% works better than KE, here. EC has part of his body on the ground at all times when he charges at characters.
I don't really see why we'd have any reason to abandon it. It's pretty clear that EC's in another league compared to previous monsters. At the very least, it's clear enough to get a possibly rating if we end up downgrading these characters.
Edit: I guess we might have because VM's calc is 30 megatons.
PE 100% works better than KE, here. EC has part of his body on the ground at all times when he charges at characters.
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I dunno how to do that, what would it get us?
EC's length is 4772.83333333 meters and his weight is 88133.5234 tonnes btw
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1758.82353 m long and 88133.5234 tonnes as per my calc
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Also what's the difference between potential energy and gravitational potential energy?
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Ah ok. GPE gets us 7-C results, meaning we switch to either Vaccine Man for scaling or back to Low 7-B. Tho majority seems that we scale to Vaccine Man, so an upgrade through a downgrade
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GPE is the energy in an object formed from gravity pulling it down. PE is the energy stored in an object. GPE is type of PE.
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7-B pre-molt and 7-B+ post-molt
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30 Megatons is not close enough to upscale to 53.15 Megatons, so no
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I thought VM was 40 MT? mb
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Nah, I just made a mistake.
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The bobbit worm I used was 2.55 cm wide and 299 cm long, a 117.254902x difference.
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He directly comments on how sturdy it is in The same panel and was surprised his missles couldn't scratch it, and its literally just a shell i dont see how he would use it outside of armour
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He says it's sturdy for a living organism. To me, at least, that seems like he definitely has technology stronger than it given that he's the person that creates robots in the series.
His missiles already scale leagues below his own armour if you want to go down this route.
I didn't say he wouldn't use it for some sort of armour, all I said was that it could have certain advantages outside of sheer durability, such as being more flexible than something lighter and more flexible than most materials with comparable durability.
His missiles already scale leagues below his own armour if you want to go down this route.
I didn't say he wouldn't use it for some sort of armour, all I said was that it could have certain advantages outside of sheer durability, such as being more flexible than something lighter and more flexible than most materials with comparable durability.
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i was moreso saying that what he saw in it was clearly its durability him saying for a living being doesn't prove or disprove anything
The missles was more so to say that "it didn't scratch it" and then he comments on how he could use it for weapons development likely means that he would develop weapons with it as armour and he views it as impressive in that regard
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It may not outright prove or disprove anything, but it's certainly a strong piece of evidence given that the source himself literally develops non-living organisms and is the only one in the series currently known to do so (unless the Organisation, who've only developed Demon level robots, turns out to be completely separate from Bofoi, which departs from the webcomic).
That's still not conclusive, especially if he only plans expounding its natural properties. He only says "might", after all. You don't need something outrageously durable for, say, missile armour to blast through a bunker.
Anyway, we should probably get a proper calc for the building's durability.
That's still not conclusive, especially if he only plans expounding its natural properties. He only says "might", after all. You don't need something outrageously durable for, say, missile armour to blast through a bunker.
Anyway, we should probably get a proper calc for the building's durability.
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Link doesn't work.
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It's half of EC's length.
No, 100%. Murata was directly foreshadowing Awakened Garou in the TTM fight when TTM said "I feel like I need to finish him right here and now"
Also, what's going on with EC? Are we just booting him down to at least low 7-B in pre-molt because the 4772 meter length doesn't apply? I have to say the weight feels wrong for the pre-molt length we got from the bobbit worm, given EC's density. I would suggest first calcing the dust clouds EC creates in pre-molt and then the energy required to burst his entire body through the ground and see if either yields results higher than JDA or Psykos's beams.
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He's going to scale above Vaccine Man, so he will have 7-B.
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Do I have to repeat myself, again? Using a centipede is wrong, proportionally speaking. You end up with either a EC that is too big for the width we're given or one that is too short considering how long he is.
If you want to take into account EC's carapace, I guess you can replace the chitin armor of the bobbit worm for the density of... I don't know, steel. Steel is 5.43859649x denser than chitin which would make EC as per my calc 479322.671 tonnes, almost as heavy as the Burj Khalifa and as heavy as multiple oil tankers.
However, I don't think this would change much, though I could be wrong.
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Can you please upload those to imgur or something?
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You're misunderstanding me. I'm not challenging using the bobbit worm for the proportions- I'm saying the upscaled weight is just too much of a lowball for me. Even steel might be too light- why not go for Tungsten given the unusual properties of the armor? It's harder than Metal knight's alloys, so Tungsten is the best analogue I can think of.
Since the carapace is such disproportionally large part of EC (far thicker than the real life proportions of any animal), I would actually just recommend starting with the bobbit worm proportions and calcing his weight as if he were a giant cylinder of tungsten with say, 80% hollowness.
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Does it work now? I actually had never used imgur before.
Sorry if the images aren't too good.
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It isn't working for me for some reason
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Looks good to me
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lots this one would be dope
Spanish
PÁGINA 1 (Geryu and Groribas):
GRORIBAS
Un soldado de alto rango con una gran variedad de técnicas.
DATA
Nivel de amenaza: dragón Origen: El espacio Altura: 8,20m Peso: Desconocido
"TE FELICITO POR HABER LLEGADO HASTA AQUÍ, INTRUSO!"
"Mordisco doble", "purgatorio de espinas", "cielo estrangulador", "tornillo de cola", y otros 20 tipos de técnicas forman el arsenal de este difícil contendiente. Con su cruel carácter, disfruta atormentando a su oponente.
Groribas ataca a Saitama con su nueva técnica, un terrorífico ataque sorpresa que, con su saliva superácida, derrite a su oponente hasta reducirlo a un fango irreconocible.
GERYUGANSHOOP
El telépata más poderoso del espacio exterior
DATA
Nivel de amenaza: Dragón Origen: El espacio Altura: 6'80m Peso: Desconocido
Este usuario de poderes psíquicos que domina tanto la telequinesis como la telepatía es junto a Melzalgard y Groribas uno de los tres soldados más poderosos.
Gracias a su telepatía puede comunicarse directamente con las mentes de otros, ya sean las de sus esbirros para darles órdenes o las de sus enemigos para advertirlos.
"¡HAS HECHO AÑICOS NUESTRA NAVE!"
¡¡Levanta escombros y guijarros de los alrededores y los lanza hacia el enemigo de forma ultrarrápida!! ¡¡Su viento arremolinado es como una turbulencia!!
PÁGINA 2:
LA TENEBROSA BANDA DE LADRONES A MERCED DEL INTRUSO
UNA ESPERANZA SE INFILTRA EN EL INTERIOR DE LA NAVE
Mientras la batalla en la tierra se desarrollaba, una persona logró colarse en el interior de la nave. ¡Era ni más ni menos que el héroe de clase "B" Saitama! Mientras derrotaba uno tras otro a los altos mandos de los Ladrones Espaciales, iba destruyendo por sí solo todas las paredes interiores dela nave.
La nave era tan resistente que, sin importar cuántos de sus mortales puñetazos diera, esta no caía.
Ante el hecho de que un simple héroe de clase B haya logrado infiltrarse en su nave, los combatientes, confundidos, intentan un contraataque desesperado.
LA PERDICIÓN ACECHA EN LO MÁS PROFUNDO DE LA NAVE
Mientras destruía la nave por dentro, Saitama llegó al área más interior. ¡Allí lo aguardaba Boros, el hombre que se enorgullecía de ser el más fuerte del universo! Comienza la batalla entre el más fuerte de la humanidad y el más fuerte del espacio exterior.
¡¡EL LÍDER DE LA TENEBROSA BANDA DE LADRONES DARK MATTER!!
¿Qué pensará Boros al ver a este intruso, el primero de la historia, que ha llegado hasta el área destruyendo todos los muros a su camino?
TRANSLATION
PAGE 1 (Geryu and Groribas):
GRORIBAS
A high-ranking soldier with a wide variety of techniques.
DATA
Threat level: dragon Origin: Space Height: 8.20m Weight: Unknown
"I CONGRATULATE YOU FOR GETTING HERE, INTRUDER!"
"Double bite", "purgatory of thorns", "strangling sky", "tail screw", and 20 other types of techniques form the arsenal of this difficult contender. With his cruel character, he enjoys tormenting his opponent.
Groribas attacks Saitama with his new technique, a terrifying surprise attack that, with his super-acid saliva, melts his opponent into unrecognizable slime.
GERYUGANSHOOP
The most powerful telepath in outer space
DATA
Threat level: Dragon Origin: Space Height: 6'80m Weight: Unknown
This user of psychic powers who masters both telekinesis and telepathy is, along with Melzalgard and Groribas, one of the three most powerful soldiers.
Thanks to his telepathy he can communicate directly with the minds of others, whether they are those of his minions to give them orders or those of his enemies to warn them.
"YOU HAVE DESTROYED OUR SHIP!"
It lifts up debris and pebbles from the surroundings and throws them towards the enemy in an ultra-fast way !! Its swirling wind is like turbulence !!
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THE TENEBROSOUS GANG OF THIEVES AT THE MERCY OF THE INTRUDER
A HOPE INFILTRATES INSIDE THE SHIP
As the battle on land raged, a person managed to sneak inside the ship. He was neither more nor less than the "B" class hero Saitama! As he defeated the high command of the Space Thieves one after another, he was destroying all the interior walls of the ship by himself.
The ship was so tough that no matter how many of its deadly punches it delivered, it would not fall.
Faced with the fact that a simple B-class hero has managed to infiltrate their ship, the confused fighters attempt a desperate counterattack.
PERDITION LIVES IN THE DEEPEST OF THE SHIP
While destroying the ship inside, Saitama reached the innermost area. Boros awaited him there, the man who prided himself on being the strongest in the universe! The battle between the strongest in humanity and the strongest in outer space begins.
THE LEADER OF THE DARK MATTER THIEF GANG !!
What will Boros think when he sees this intruder, the first in history, who has reached the area destroying all the walls in his path?
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Just wondering but might this imply the interior of the ship is made of similar material to the exterior, which is 6-A? They do look similar
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Also, does this imply the DMT have knowledge on the Hero Association?
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