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Strongest one based on what they knew sure. They didn't know Golden sperm, and I'm sure nobody knew HE'S full extent either.
 
HE said he couldn't let loose his full power without worrying about a cave in. This implies he couldn't use his powers inside at full power so it makes sense nobody else would know the extent.
 
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Ngl this seems like a whole lot of mental gymnastics just to say HE is stronger than Orochi.

Orochi is repeatedly stated to be the strongest member of the Monster Association, which HE is a part of. Orochi is an Above Dragon while HE is a mere Dragon. Orochi scales above Geryuganshoop, who is a higher degree of 6-C than HE. Orochi is stronger than HE.
 
Orochi is "dragon or above". Could go either way. Comparing them as Dragons isn't farfetched. If HE gets better feats than Orochi then clearly all those "strongest monster" statements will become null.
 
Then Orochi would automatically scale above HE? I doubt HE is gonna perform something greater than Orochi does
 
Until HE performs a High 6-C feat greater than Final Form Orochi’s, there are less than zero reasons to assume that he’s stronger than Orochi when the exact opposite has been stated.
 
If HE gets better feats then he's stronger in general lol Murata even stated Orochi was "a" top monster, not "the" top monster.
 
Until HE performs a High 6-C feat greater than Final Form Orochi’s, there are less than zero reasons to assume that he’s stronger than Orochi when the exact opposite has been stated.
I dont think he's stronger lol I'm not even arguing that. Just don't think he should scale if he does happen to be superior in feats.
 
Yeah. Because he didn't exist. But how could they know they extent of HE'S power without him ever going full power?
 
Because he actually does exist, unlike GS.

Also, who says she wouldn't know his full power. They have his data.
 
Again, they have the guy's data, which Drive Knight even stole. You need to prove they wouldn't have any reason to know.
 
"Uses mysterious light energy that creates massive explosions" Vague but doesn't prove they knew the full extent.

Also psychos was also surprised by Orochi's power as well who's also 6-C via feats. So it's evident that they only knew his base abilities.
 
"Uses mysterious light energy that creates massive explosions" Vague but doesn't prove they knew the full extent.

Also psychos was also surprised by Orochi's power as well who's also 6-C via feats. So it's evident that they only knew his base abilities.
Because Orochi purposely hid it from her and Orochi can hide his own power? Plus, HE is a show off
 
@Quant That's not the data I'm referring to. There's literally bar graphs with their stats.

Psykos was surprised that he had more power than even he lead on.

We have proof that Orochi is the strongest mysterious being in the MA. You have no proof that he held back, or that Psykos couldn't recognise his strength otherwise.
So Orochi and BS can hide his power but HE can't? Lol
Why are you claiming that BS even can hold back? BS and GS are two different characters, essentially. There's no holding back, they're just different beings, and the data shows that Psykos did know his power.
 
A few days ago someone told me we didn't scale off of hype, but that seems to be what's going on here lol.

Why would psychos know how much power he has when his power comes from God?
 
It's not even hype. It's a consistent string of evidence, statements and even a feat that already puts him above 99.9% of characters in the series.

Why wouldn't she. Psykos knows when people get power from ugliness, or the abilities of upscaled sperm cells. The fact, once again, that she has statistics on him shows that she does, in fact, have some way of sensing his power.

Again, GS doesn't exist until after chapter 140. Apples and oranges.
 
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Actually, I don't even see the point in this. Released Orochi's already above HE, and we don't really have proof that Psykos was referring to his base form.
 
A few days ago someone told me we didn't scale off of hype, but that seems to be what's going on here lol.

Why would psychos know how much power he has when his power comes from God?
So what if his power comes from God? Why would it not be quantifiable?
 
To be fair there's no proof either way. There's not enough evidence in the story to prove weather she knew the full extent or not. But there is nothing proving she knew HE full power except with speculation.
 
Anyway, other topics. New CRT is getting a bit big and I might split it into 2 to 3 parts in order to slim it down. So the thread won't be convoluted.

At most, it'll arrive this weekend
 
Can I ask for a very brief summary of all the main points? Ex. "BS varies tier".
 
If he manifests it the same way Vaccine man does then there wouldn't be a way to sense his energy passively.
Vaccine Man draws power from the Earth itself, whereas HE was just given abilities (at least from his exact wording). But, like I said, it doesn't really even matter anymore.
 
Can I ask for a very brief summary of all the main points? Ex. "BS varies tier".
  • Minor updates
  • Some other downgrades
  • Boros calc update
  • possibly 7-A+ scaling revisions
  • 6-C upgrades
  • 7-B upgrades
  • Garou's reworked page
  • Several other random upgrades
 
Vaccine Man draws power from the Earth itself, whereas HE was just given abilities (at least from his exact wording). But, like I said, it doesn't really even matter anymore.
It never did, I was never arguing who was stronger lol just the future scaling chain if he gets better feats. We shall wait and see.
 
Also did we ever accept EC > VM via it being stated that EC was a natural disaster and stuff? All I remember from that conversation getting derailed to the timeline of events.
 
@Quant That very much wasn't the point I was making.

@Emirp A few people agreed and no one disagreed, IIRC.
 
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