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If Golden Sperm or Homeless Emperor get better feats I don't think Orochi should scale.
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Since there's not really any justification for it.
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The justification is that Orochi is superior to any monster according to Gouketsu, cadres included. That means if Gouketsu has any idea how strong a monster is, he isn't going to be stronger than Orochi.
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So one needs to argue that Gouketsu doesn't know how strong Homeless is. Golden Sperm I understand because he's a completely new form, but Gouketsu might have a general idea of how strong Homeless is.
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I'd say first form Orochi and sealed Boris should scale above Homeless Emperor, mainly due to Boros being a dragon and above, but Orochi should scale as he is repeatedly described as the strongest dragon in the HA, but Gyoro Gyoro should have an idea of how powerful the cadres are, yet Orochi is still deemed the strongest. Orochi is the enforcer for a reason
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However, I don't think they should be stated to scale above golden sperm until more evidence has been shown that golden sperm is just a dragon. Even though golden sperm is on par with Orochi
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Orochi should logically be superior to every Cadres unless they have a new form (i.e. Golden Sperm).
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From what I remember black sperm was surprised by Homeless emperors power, so idk how Gouketsu would know either.
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Well in any case, Gyoro Gyoro is also going to have an idea of how strong Homeless Emperor is because he admitted him to the MA and granted him cadre status. Psykos literally said that Homeless and Black Sperm can do anything together, which would imply she understands that Homeless and Black Sperm are exceptionally powerful and what that exceptional power looks like.
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I'm just happy we now have 4 solid 6-Cs
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Boros, Orochi, HE and GS ? I lost track of the discussion
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Sadly monster garou is not one of them...yet
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Yes
Not yet at least uwu
Plus in the scenario we don't scale Boros to Garou, at least we can have 6-C Boros vs 6-C Garou
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It would be purely speculation to say she knows the full extent, by that logic she'd also know about Golden sperm as well. If they get superior feats then they're just superior to him.
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But can we scale HE's Big Sphere attack to his small spheres ? (I believe 6-C comes from that I guess)
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I don't think so, it's implied how his spheres can vary in power, and the strongest seem to be the largest ones or the ones that take longest to charge up.
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Yeah, agreed
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Nobody in the MA should scale to HE full strength. Unless there's proof to show Gouketsu knew his full strength.
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Orochi is stated to be the strongest monster on the planet on multiple occasions. And that’s aside from him being an Above Dragon while HE is just a Dragon.
Orochi should absolutely scale above him.
Orochi should absolutely scale above him.
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Yeah, and HE sees Golden Sperm as enough of a treat that he needed to get off his ass, it wouldn't make sense if he saw Golden Sperm as a threat but had power to easily kill him
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It just doesn't feel right scaling Orochi to God's power.
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But I guess above dragon is valid
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What? God's power is far from the most powerful thing in the verse.
Next thing I'm gonna hear is that it doesn't feel right that the 6-B flying rock isn't stronger than God's power because it feels wrong.
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His crater has a new calc because we have a better angle of his crater. It went from 7-A+ to 6-C
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The 6-C calc just got accepted and it's going to be debated in the next CRT
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Wym? God amped Psykorochi. Neither if them had feats even close to multi continental.
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God’s amp is not quantifiable, nor is it a static thing. We can’t just randomly say “oh it should be above [insert character or feat here]” when we have no idea how it works.
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Pyskos is way more credible than HE.
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They definitely didn't have relative feats until the amp. We don't know just how much power HE can draw out.
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Because overconfidence? Orochi never really displayed his full power in front of HE. In fact, Orochwas even stronger than what Psykos thoughtNo one scales to Homeless Emperor's full power including Golden Sperm. He expressed little to no surprise that Orochi and Psykos were defeated. He deemed them as weaklings.
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If HE pulls out anything above High 6-C, then I’ll agree with not scaling Orochi to him.
Until then, no. Orochi is an Above Dragon, stated to be the strongest monster, and he already does scale to a 6-C (Geryuganshoop) that’s above HE. Making Orochi a full 6-C is perfectly fine.
And as for HE thinking that Orochi and Psykos were weaklings, he is 100% just being a cocky bastard. By that logic, we should be making him a High 6-A, which is completely nonsensical.
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So are we assuming that she knows the full extent of his power? She didn't even know about Orochi's true strength despite being so close to him for a long time.
If HE can charge an energy sphere that is 20 times greater in size compared to this one, then should we still scale anyone to him?
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If it yields results vastly above someone like Orochi, then no. But until we can see him do that, we can't prove he's much stronger than that. This feels bordering almost on NLF
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I think we need to see more from Golden Sperm before we try to scale him to HE.
