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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Also an interesting thing to me, is that black sperm seems to be weak to blunt force attacks, as shown how he got destroyed easily by metal bat, but Atomic Samurai struggled against him, mainly because Atomic Samurai focuses on cutting down enemies.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Also an interesting thing to me, is that black sperm seems to be weak to blunt force attacks, as shown how he got destroyed easily by metal bat, but Atomic Samurai struggled against him, mainly because Atomic Samurai focuses on cutting down enemies.
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Yes, that was established a few chapters ago when AS started hitting him with the side of his sword. Manga BS can't multiply if there's nothing left to multiply from.
 
As for Genos losing an arm to a demon in webcomic, it was off screened so we don't know if the monster could keep up or just had an ability that made speed unnecessary.
 
A middle of the pack high demon or whatever Genos is at that point shouldn't be = Flashy Flash. If he was he'd never take a scratch from anyone that isn't a high dragon or above, he'd be too fast, yet we see him struggling with mid-high demons.
 
We heard about him struggling with one almost completely unknown high-level Demon off-screen. That's it. If anything, there's tons of anti-feats against that, including Genos already being high-level Demon during the MHA arc, statements from ONE himself that Genos is very powerful even amongst S-Classes with these upgrades, him keeping up with Sonic/Flash on numerous occasions (ONE even says a fight between him and Sonic would be inconclusive, although I can't find if this is for pre- or post-Psychic Sisters), his fight with an actual Dragon level threat, and the parallel evolution with Speed-o'-Sound Sonic.

Tbh, it doesn't really even matter that much. Everyone is scaled from a Speed-o'-Sound Sonic that occurred in the DSK arc.

Edit: The quote about Sonic and Genos seems to be referring to Post-Psychic Sisters.
 
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Since I found that 20 km figure from the manga, we can calculate Genos' statement of the meteor destroying surrounding cities.

Assuming 50 psi (nuclear bomb levels, which is decently accurate for something of this destructive power) gets 2.233 gigatons. Using 20 gets 643 megatons.
 
ByAsura said:
Since I found that 20 km figure from the manga, we can calculate Genos' statement of the meteor destroying surrounding cities.

Assuming 50 psi (nuclear bomb levels, which is decently accurate for something of this destructive power) gets 2.233 gigatons. Using 20 gets 643 megatons.
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So... Downgrade?
 
Did the Garou durability negation get accepted?

Also, can someone give me the full reason for why Black Sperm's powers vary? I need the full explanation. This means that Genos and all those who scale to Genos will just stay at "At least Low 7-B"
 
From what I remember the black sperms can harm everyone but Darkshine, so they should all be comparable to the others even the weakened ones.
 
 
I know but I’m just showing how Black Sperm copies vary in number and power since you asked for the full explanation. The 2.5k Black Sperm only somewhat harming Metal Bat before getting one shot is still valid same with an unknown number of Black Sperms hurting Genos while another unknown number being unable to do so.
 
Also I don't think the "2500 copies" only being able to somewhat damage mb is accurate considering the first bs had 11 trillion copies. I think the strength of Bs cells cap eventually if not permanently fused.
 
Yeah we know Black Sperm’s cap is Darkshine as they can’t hurt him without fusing. But his power most definitely varies with the amount of copies he has in him.
 
Peter1129 said:
Yeah we know Black Sperm’s cap is Darkshine as they can’t hurt him without fusing. But his power most definitely varies with the amount of copies he has in him.
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Yeah but I'm saying there's a limit to how strong a regular black sperm can get. Which for now is unquantifiable.
 
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Homeless Emperor's Extreme Carpet Bombing + alt Horizon crater calc

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Updated the calc to try and find the strength of each individual orb in the carpet bombing. Came up with 24 megatons. I think we can scale VFU and Darkshine to that, since VFU is still conscious after taking dozens of orbs in a named attack and Darkshine is being caught up in the carpet bombing right now (while potentially unconscious)
 
Now I agree with your reasoning.

Do Iaian and Spring Mustachio scale too?

Why are there only 36 orbs tho? I can count at least 100. Edit: Nevermind, you were talking about the first wave. I can count 23 on the panel where the samurai are slicing the orbs. That's probably the real first wave. That can make each orb stronger.

It wouldn't be accurate tho, because the orbs are probably falling at a constant pace (and at massively hypersonic speeds) and hundreds (if not thousnads) of them would have landed by the time we see the crater panel. Even if it's wank, it's the best that we have, so I'm fine with the calc.
 
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Now I agree with your reasoning.

Do Iaian and Spring Mustachio scale too?
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Should Iaian and Spring Mustachio be comparable to VFU and Darkshine? I would say no, it's an outlier if we say it makes them equal to two high dragons.

I'm thinking on how to calc what Iaian and Spring are doing because just putting Iaian and Spring above EC would be insane, especially after Iaian high-diffed average demons like Rhino Wrestler and Devil Long Hair 6-12 hours ago
 
On another topic, is Vaccine Man's calc measured with vaporization? I know 0 about calcs, so please don't bully me. It is stated to be the same energy as Homeless Emperor, even if the databook says he pulverizes buildings. We can see signs of vaporization in his feats.
 
Ourosboros said:
Should Iaian and Spring Mustachio be comparable to VFU and Darkshine? I would say no, it's an outlier if we say it makes them equal to two high dragons.

I'm thinking on how to calc what Iaian and Spring are doing because just putting Iaian and Spring above EC would be insane, especially after Iaian high-diffed average demons like Rhino Wrestler and Devil Long Hair 6-12 hours ago
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Maybe we assume not every orb had the same power. It's weird, because they tanked many of them, but I dunno.

Should ENW scale too? Breaks Iaian's sword, who was stronger than Spring Mustachio, so his former blade (and slashes) shouldn't be weaker than SM's, who is also tanking the blasts right now.
 
ImposingTiger said:
On another topic, is Vaccine Man's calc measured with vaporization? I know 0 about calcs, so please don't bully me. It is stated to be the same energy as Homeless Emperor, even if the databook says he pulverizes buildings. We can see signs of vaporization in his feats.
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I did some experimenting with vaporization and vaccine man's crater and I got city level results a little less than the explosion calc he has currently, so eh it would just be a supporting feat for city level vaccine man.
 
Ourosboros said:
I did some experimenting with vaporization and vaccine man's crater and I got city level results a little less than the explosion calc he has currently, so eh it would just be a supporting feat for city level vaccine man.
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I was talking about the extra chapter explosion, which is obviously much bigger than chapter 1 explosion, and thus would give better results than 30 megatons.
 
ImposingTiger said:
I was talking about the extra chapter explosion, which is obviously much bigger than chapter 1 explosion, and thus would give better results than 30 megatons.
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Calc Group Members were against using that diameter for pulverization because we don't see the crater, so there's no chance vaporization would be accepted
 
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