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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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The 183 petaton explosion method isn't energy intensive enough to destroy the crust, most of that energy would be mitigated by the oceans and reach the oceanic crust too diluted to do serious damage. Plus, I don't see how that formula accounts for destroying the crust via "scorching", it was made before we even knew about that.
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ONE’s statements are usually considered valid across the board.
It’s Murata’s that aren’t.
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Murata’s statements are basically given ‘possibly’ ratings unless they’re contradicted (such as him saying Bomb is stronger than Bang), in which case they aren’t included at all.
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I've already given my opinion that I think we should just remove the calc and leave a note, so after this, I think I'll just be finished with arguing about Boros.
No, no, no. I'll have none of that sophistry. Scorching does not mean completely disfiguring, let alone melting everything, even in the broadest of contexts. It's all surface level. Even if it did mean what you said in an extremely broad sense, most people just use it in the context of burning a surface.
You're assuming he's referring to literally all of the Earth's crust. Just because he said surface, that does not mean every bit of crust on the Earth.
Or, you know, he's just burning the surface out right, which is far less energy intensive than either of those.
Anyway, this part of the discussion is irrelevant given that you weren't even talking about concrete.
I literally gave you the panel where it produces a destructive explosion. That's here and here, in the latter you can even see a triangular shockwave knock apart some of the ship's fins, and almost nothing is visibly melted in either of them (and that's with me giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming some of the blurred corners are melted metal). Most of the metal after is rent and torn apart, not melted, though you can see some melted metal at the epicentre.
That last part kind of harkens back to your point about energy processes, as things like explosions are way hotter at the epicentre than they are the outer fringes. So an attack capable of melting every ounce of the crust wouldn't just melt the crust, it'd crack open the planet.
Concrete is commonly referred to as stone, so I thought's that what you meant, especially since the term itself can refer to either natural rock or building materials. As for any form of rock, they all scorch at the right temperature. Here is a photo of scorched granite. Even blowing mountains to blackened charred rubble can count.
No, no, no. I'll have none of that sophistry. Scorching does not mean completely disfiguring, let alone melting everything, even in the broadest of contexts. It's all surface level. Even if it did mean what you said in an extremely broad sense, most people just use it in the context of burning a surface.
You're assuming he's referring to literally all of the Earth's crust. Just because he said surface, that does not mean every bit of crust on the Earth.
Or, you know, he's just burning the surface out right, which is far less energy intensive than either of those.
Many forms of concrete burn up (like become charred ashes or tiny fragments) and don't melt, which is what I said in the original. Although, I'll admit that it's probably not most forms. I also told you my point was that concrete typically scorches before it melts.
Anyway, this part of the discussion is irrelevant given that you weren't even talking about concrete.
I don't care how much time you spent reading the manga. Boros fires a total of 2 energy blasts, and only one of them hits anything (even the one that doesn't directly hit anything still fragments). His aura and punches also don't melt stuff like they do in the anime, or at least not to anywhere near the same level. In fact, they actually eliminate air friction.
I literally gave you the panel where it produces a destructive explosion. That's here and here, in the latter you can even see a triangular shockwave knock apart some of the ship's fins, and almost nothing is visibly melted in either of them (and that's with me giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming some of the blurred corners are melted metal). Most of the metal after is rent and torn apart, not melted, though you can see some melted metal at the epicentre.
That last part kind of harkens back to your point about energy processes, as things like explosions are way hotter at the epicentre than they are the outer fringes. So an attack capable of melting every ounce of the crust wouldn't just melt the crust, it'd crack open the planet.
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Do you mean anime?
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Genos potentially crossed 5 kilometers in slightly under 5 minutes in one of the OVAs.
I don't suppose that would even be a good supporting feat right?
I don't suppose that would even be a good supporting feat right?
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16.6667 meters per second or Superhuman speed. Naaahhhhhh
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Thats like, Superhuman speed lol
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Figured as much. I’ve never seen most the OVAs and finally decided to.
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My favorite one is the one where Genos gets smacked by Saitama that his personality changes. He goes from either a good boy or a delinquent
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Well, it's not very important, but it's from One's sunman tweet.
This
@ONE_rakugaki He's such a last boss that even a one-punch man can have trouble with
@kurohei00
That's right. It was the cheat seems to be the only way to respond with cheat.
If there were many ways to respond with cheat, he would have said "ways", not way. so here we know to the only way is Saitama. This means Saitama can the only one to stop Boros at this point. This retroactive retroactively suggests Boros is superior to Tatsumaki.
It's also meaningful that ONE agrees that even Saitama needs to make an effort.
However, it is an old statement, so I asked the criteria.
Edit: cheats is typo
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It's a pretty vague statement tho. I don't think that's enough to just straight up place Boros above Tatsumaki.
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The words is clearly singular and refers to one way, but it can certainly be seen as a vague statement. So I didn't think straight up tier but thinking of a possibility.
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Also, why were you using an earthquake formula for your calculation? That's completely false as it never happens in the scene.
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Sorry maybe I misunderstood about the earthquake.
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Wait if outright destroying the Atmosphere is just teraton rage then how is the serious punch’s atmosphere splitting getting into the Exaton range?
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I think because KE is involved with serious punch?
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Can we like, make a discussion rule to prevent people trying to scale above Psykos and Tatsumaki based on extremely outdated statements?
It should be obvious that statements made several years ago don’t apply anymore, after the new feats that both characters have displayed.
It should be obvious that statements made several years ago don’t apply anymore, after the new feats that both characters have displayed.
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It is unclear whether the statement from several years ago is not applicable. The current tier is purely a result of calc and there is no guarantee that the author has the same idea as calc. Of course, it is effective to use calc when it is unclear.
And this
One said
@ha_neu If I give a numerical value or a fixed expression about the strength, there will be more restrictions on the character setting, so I try not to do it outside the work as much as possible. In the future, there may be some depictions that can be used as a guide or reference, so I would be grateful if you could refer to that.
It can be seen that ONE is adjusts the character's strength to what he said rather than changing the character's strength setting.
I think rule that ignores ONE statement should not be instituted until there is solid evidence, and Boros's strength is completely based on assumptions, so the limits are not set properly.
Also, we can know new facts from the time point of that saying, and ONE did not distinguish the remake from the original when ONE already spoke of the reference point depiction of Saitama's power, despite the difference in the story(change of boros battle) from the remake and the original at that point. Therefore, we can see that the statements that are not completely changed through the direct description can be used without actually appearing in the story.
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I mean, it's only applicable to characters (or form etc) that exist in the story.
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I'd prefer we find Boros's AP through solid evidence rather than mental gymnastics
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I don't get why people are bothered by the ratings when ONE says he doesn't care much about powerscaling his own series. Like I don't get the whole "narratively Boros has to be superior" when Boros has literally served his purpose and his strength compared to others doesn't affect his character at all, he's the dominator of the universe vs a monster human fusion that was blessed by God. If you guys really want to know what ONE's feelings are then check this out.
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Your profile quote is a Rickroll (one that I opened in a completely new tab, so it doesn't count). You have no right to be mad.
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ONE doesn't care about power scaling in his own series -> this is a false. He tried for nearly two days to address the power imbalance problem.
- Murata said he will send the sketches to ONE, awaiting approval and lines. He later updates on stream and said ONE is happy with the changes. ONE particularly likes the molting/evolving idea, said he had been trying to come up with a way to address the power imbalance for almost 2 days.
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I'm pretty sure he's just trolling, did you click on the link in his post?
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Well, I knew it was trolling, but I thought it was a mix of own arguments and trolling.
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Of course he was trolling, ONE has never stated that he doesn't care about power scaling in his series afaik.
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Why all these disputes, if Boros is the level of a star with a beam and the level of a dwarf star in durability and AP, because his beam could only destroy his arms and legs, but could not destroy his head and torso?
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He's not the level of a star tho.
Also, you know glass cannons do exist right? Also, his arms and legs being destroyed was because of the serious punch, not the CSRC. I have no idea why people think CSRC kills Boros when that has not been confirmed, we only know he'll run out of energy
Also, you know glass cannons do exist right? Also, his arms and legs being destroyed was because of the serious punch, not the CSRC. I have no idea why people think CSRC kills Boros when that has not been confirmed, we only know he'll run out of energy
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On that note, Boros seemingly planned on surviving the CSRC after shooting it at Saitama.
Boros seems to be about 10 metres away, and his cross-sectional surface area is about 1.74 m^2 if we assume he's just an upscaled human. At this range, his durability would be Large Country level (253.389992 teratons) if we used the 183 petaton end (the energy increases linearly if we use other ends). This is Boros without amping himself with energy.
Boros seems to be about 10 metres away, and his cross-sectional surface area is about 1.74 m^2 if we assume he's just an upscaled human. At this range, his durability would be Large Country level (253.389992 teratons) if we used the 183 petaton end (the energy increases linearly if we use other ends). This is Boros without amping himself with energy.
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