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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Maybe so, I guess he should be listed as likely comparable to the other kings? I feel like we should find the AP of Ancient king and Giant snowman via sheer size
 
Why would you wait for them to die out if you weren't afraid of them. Or at least sure they could threaten your potential rule.
 
Because convenience? Why would you want to fight your opponents who maybe comparable to you when you can just wait for them to die?

I doubt they should scale to one another tho.
 
Question: How do you feel about A) scaling Spring Mustachio to Kombu Infinity, B) scaling Stinger and those who scale to him to baseline demon?

I am working on the low-tier CRT and I see five tiers right now, ranging from wolf-level to baseline demon.

1.) Wolf level: 9-B+, 9-A. Upscaling from the police officer
  • All featless C-class, B-class and wolf level threats will scale here. It seems more consistent to put these guys at wall level, we have seen numerous superhuman feats from these groups but Piggy Bancon is a particularly strong wolf level and its attack is middle of the road wall level.

2.) Baseline tiger level: 9-A, upscaling from the police officer.
  • Most A-class level fighters will scale here, as all featless Tiger levels already do. Stronger A-class heroes will be "at least 9-A", like Captain Mizuki, Needlestar or Feather.

3.) Superfight level: 8-C or 9-A, El Beyonder's recalc has not been accepted, so characters that scale to the superfight will generally be 8-C or higher scaling to the currently accepted calc. Unless

4.) Upper end tiger level: High 8-C or 8-C, no end has been accepted for El Beyonder's recalc which will obviously change this tier. People on this level scale to Kombu Infinity. I would argue that most A-class level heroes, however, should not scale to Kombu Infinity since they might get instantly wrecked (like Golden Ball).
  • Who scales? = Spring Mustachio (pierced Kombu's hair with his tomboy, blocked many attacks, Stinger/Great Philosopher (fought Grizzly Nyah) possibly, Heavy Tank Fundoshi (near s-class level) possibly, Snek and Lightning Max possibly (defeated two of the three crows, a demon threat together).
  • What needs to happen? = El Beyonder's kombu recalc must be evaluated and if accepted, an end chosen. Otherwise we will keep the current High 8-C end and use that.
5.) Above Tiger level: 8-B, 34.98 tons. People on this level scale to or above the Sky Folk, all demons scale above this.
  • Zombieman, Stinger/Great Philosopher possibly (fought Grizzly Nyah), Heavy Tank Fundoshi (near s-class level) possibly, Snek and Lightning Max possibly (defeated two of the three crows, a demon threat together).
  • What needs to happen = Nothing, we're all good. We just have to decide on where the aforementioned heroes scale.
6.) Child Emperor should be unknown, the Okame Mask accounts for brains AND brawn, so it's hard to say where Child Emperor's physical stats really fall.
 
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I have to ask though, why is Piggy Bancon 9-A when the crater he left is 9-B? Do we just straight upscale him from the police officer? I don't think that makes sense, since the assumption would be that he could knock police officers out- but the 9-B+ feat pretty much KO'D the police officer, so he could be 9-B+ and still have the same effect.
 
Basically I think the featless C-class, B-class and wolf level threats should be 9-B+, scaling to police officer or maybe above. Even if Piggy Bancon is 9-A, he strikes me as a rather powerful wolf level. Other guys like Tongue Stretcher and Manako should be weaker than him, so definitely 9-B.
 
I think putting him at 9-B+ sounds convincing?

I also heard people had problems with the 9-B+ thing, as many argued the cop stright up died from it.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I think putting him at 9-B+ sounds convincing?

I also heard people had problems with the 9-B+ thing, as many argued the cop stright up died from it.
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I have to reread the chapter, but I remember the attack basically KO'ing the officer. Even if any and all wolf-level threats could one-shot him, that wouldn't mean they upscale the 2X into 9-A from the 9-B+ feat. Unless I'm missing something, it would make more sense to scale c-class heroes/b-class heroes/wolf-level threats to the attack and not above it. It also feels more consistent to me- c-class heroes are superhuman and Mumen did hit harder than hand-gun bullets in that one chapter, but their feats range from 9-C to 9-B afaik.
 
I will wait for any responses before I change the featless c-class/b-class/wolf-level tier to 9-B+ though.
 
I'd prefer to ask here before I get everything else ready, because I would prefer to avoid a situation where I make a huge list of characters with a recommended downgrade and then everyone disagrees when I put it in the CRT.

Plus, we already got the Psykorochi/Tatsumaki upgrade CRT
 
Seems fair, both of the current CRT seem to be finishing soon tho. We just need staff approval
 
Oh, and... upscaling is super relevant for this CRT. Did that upscaling thread come to a conclusion yet?
 
Nope, they're going round and round in circles afaik. They seem to be compromising for a 1.33x multiplier tho
 
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The cop didn't die, he's seen twitching and breathing afterwards.
I still feel like it's a weird thing to scale to though.
 
I'm not so sure I support Lightning Max and Snek scaling to the higher stuff. I think they should scale above Dave personally.
 
Neat. Also, I thought up the idea of a conversation between Superman and Saitama if any of you guys would care to hear it.
 
So, I may have forgotten a bit of what I thought up, but it goes something like this:

Superman: "I've seen you in action when reviewing footage from the Watchtower. I've got to say, you are quite strong."
Saitama: "I guess, but it's kind of boring. You're also pretty strong from what I've heard Genos say about you. Do you ever get bored fighting monsters?"
Superman: "I don't fight monsters that much, mainly aliens. But, no, I don't get bored fighting them."
Saitama: "I fought some aliens once, though they weren't that strong. Are the ones you fight powerful?"
Superman: "Some of them are pretty strong, but that's not why. It's because I know that there's always someone that needs help, whether it's one girl that wants to end it all or a threat to the entire planet. I don't get tired of fighting them if it means I'm saving the world I call home, and that's what keeps me going. How strong they are isn't that important to me. Just remember why you fight them."
Saitama: "For fun and for profit."
Superman: "For profit? Probably beats the Daily Planet salary..."
 
Tetsucabrah said:
I'm not so sure I support Lightning Max and Snek scaling to the higher stuff. I think they should scale above Dave personally.
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The thing is, they never fight Dave but they did fight and defeat the three crows, who are demon level together. Snek and Lightning Max don't concretely scale to any monsters that I know of, they one-shot their first opponents in superfight and both lost to a "at most low 7-B" and a 7-A+, so I don't see an alternative to using the three crows. We could downscale the three crows from demon level or scale them to Kombu Infinity, assuming that they are powerful tiger levels individual.

Snek has been in the top four each of the six times he's fought in Superfight, whereas Dave has fought three times before he appears and isn't mentioned in the same light as Snek. Not only is there not any direct scaling link between them, I would sooner bet on Snek one-shotting Dave than them fighting equally. Lightning Max is a little stronger than Snek according to Suiryu, so I don't think there's concrete scaling proof for either of them.

So how about this? We calc the energy required to send the three crows flying as quickly as Snek and lightning Max did. They both launched their large enemies across the stadium in the time frame while they were still mid-jump.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
So wiuld we like, upscale the crows I guess?
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Well, the thing about Snek and Lightning Max one-shotting the crows, is that it implies that they are strong enough to decisively defeat very powerful level tiger level monsters, if not outright challenge weak demon level monsters. So I would say we either downscale from demon level or upscale from Kombu Infinity level (strong tiger level). Personally, I prefer the latter.

The crows would just upscale from Kombu and Lightning Max and Snek would upscale further in my opinion. I think this is better because I doubt that an attack on the level of Dave's body slam could have killed one of the crows, or any equivalent tiger level threat for that matter. Despite being low-ranked Snek and Max are very impressive (never forget that Snek dodged Deep Sea King's first attack)
 
I do have a question though, how can I find the mass of the giant crows? They're 4.9 meters tall, scaling from the picture where one is holding Rosie.
 
Ourosboros said:
I do have a question though, how can I find the mass of the giant crows? They're 4.9 meters tall, scaling from the picture where one is holding Rosie.
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Can't we just multiply it according to their size from a regular crow?
 
Apparently not. And now that I look at it, this will likely give depressing results. If we highballed their weight and said they weighed 10,000 kg (like 2 elephants) and Lightning Max and Snek sent them flying at like 30 m/s, it would be 9-B+. Unless we could prove the crows were sent back at the speed of sound or something
 
ZoroNotZolo said:
So, I may have forgotten a bit of what I thought up, but it goes something like this:

Superman: "I've seen you in action when reviewing footage from the Watchtower. I've got to say, you are quite strong."
Saitama: "I guess, but it's kind of boring. You're also pretty strong from what I've heard Genos say about you. Do you ever get bored fighting monsters?"
Superman: "I don't fight monsters that much, mainly aliens. But, no, I don't get bored fighting them."
Saitama: "I fought some aliens once, though they weren't that strong. Are the ones you fight powerful?"
Superman: "Some of them are pretty strong, but that's not why. It's because I know that there's always someone that needs help, whether it's one girl that wants to end it all or a threat to the entire planet. I don't get tired of fighting them if it means I'm saving the world I call home, and that's what keeps me going. How strong they are isn't that important to me. Just remember why you fight them."
Saitama: "For fun and for profit."
Superman: "For profit? Probably beats the Daily Planet salary..."
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After this post, I thought of a Batman and Genos conversation.
 
I think those 2 would get a long fine, Batman teaching Genos how to not seek out revenge and stuff
 
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