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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Because every other character around their level has shown feats consistently in tier 7, with only god tiers showing tier 6 feats. Not only that, but I'm pretty sure that KE leads to massively inflated results. But we'll see, I doubt they're gonna be accepted anyways
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Calc isn't even accepted yet, also adding 2 keys to HE is very pointless imo
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I never said it is, I said "assuming the calc is accepted". Even if the attack he just used was unnamed and a larger collection of energy, it's much different from his usual blasts and is far more powerful. If his normal attacks were to stay at least a tier below it (which they probably would with this calc as the feat is only 10 gigatons above the top of normal 6-C), then I feel like it should be mentioned, instead of just putting him at the tier his strongest attacks are capable of. I mean, if Goku's normal attacks were 3-C, but he could use a 3-A attack, that's how it would be listed.

The way I'm seeing it, him holding back before and now using his full power isn't that simple. Of course, HE uses the energy given to him by God and collects it into blasts, the amount of energy collected determining it's power. This specific attack is a significantly more charged up attack that should be considered far more powerful than the rest he typically uses.

If he makes, like, several at a time and is throwing them around with no issue, then yeah just High 6-C, but I don't know if that's how it should be done.
 
As for the thing with consistency, I don't see how that's relevant. HE being a Dragon level threat doesn't mean the other Dragon's compare to his very strongest attacks. At best they could scale to his normal ones. And as for his threat level in general, I mean, Orochi and even the Above Dragon's are still just considered extremely high level Dragon's, officially speaking. The threat level is very large, and a character within it having a High 6-C attack really isn't that surprising.

And again, Black Sperm, who's a very arrogant Mid-Dragon, was both shocked and frightened by the power of the attack. It isn't being portrayed as some standard Dragon level stuff in any way. On top of that, this is power granted by God, who's prob gonna be the "final boss" of the series and gave Psyrochi High 6-A or 5-C power, the God Blast feat itself being done presumably through the exact same energy that HE is using, just on a much larger scale. Literally all this means is that HE's genuine full powers (at least in the manga) are WAY higher than we thought.
 
RinneItachi said:
And again, Black Sperm, who's a very arrogant Mid-Dragon, was both shocked and frightened by the power of the attack. It isn't being portrayed as some standard Dragon level stuff in any way. On top of that, this is power granted by God, who's prob gonna be the "final boss" of the series and gave Psyrochi High 6-A or 5-C power, the God Blast feat itself being done presumably through the exact same energy that HE is using, just on a much larger scale. Literally all this means is that HE's genuine full powers (at least in the manga) are WAY higher than we thought.
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Black Sperm at mid-dragon? I guess via our scaling right now, but I've always put him at high dragon. His individual AP may not be all that special, but we don't know what you need to annihilate him in the manga and there's at least 11 trillion cells. BS didn't seem scared of Homeless but he definitely takes him seriously now
 
Well, in terms of how threat levels are actually assigned, yeah he could be considered High Dragon. But when I use those terms I'm mainly referring to just their raw stats. AP, speed, durability, etc..

"Woah, hey, now! The power behind those juggling balls is no damn joke! Nobody told me about this!" At the very least, the attack has utterly shocked him.
 
Also, is this potentially a speed feat for FU? Someone asked earlier if he got touched by the attack, but it doesn't look like it to me. He seems to have just barely avoided it at the last moment. And if he did get hit, he literally took zero damage from it, which is something I highly doubt.

If it's determinable how far the blast traveled and how fast it went, then that could be a speed feat of its own. Then again, he's already listed as at least MHS+, so it would prob be unnecessary.
 
RinneItachi said:
Baseline High 6-A? Well either way, the point stands.
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She should get an upgrade right? I think we just got sidetracked because Matt made that thread when the higher end recalc dropped
Emirp sumitpo said:
Psykorochi is only baseline as of now
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Are there any standing objections to the recalc or could we put that in the next CRT? Maybe combine it with the Homeless and EC feats for a CRT?
 
Ourosboros said:
She should get an upgrade right? I think we just got sidetracked because Matt made that thread when the higher end recalc dropped
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I'm pretty sure some calc members were not fully on board with Ugarik's calc. Until the calcs have been accepted, then we can do the CRT

Also no one really gonna calc giant snow man huh?
 
Inb4 Homeless Emperor uses an ultimate attack that bounces off Saitama's head and obliterates the moon.

Edit: Which releases a weakened God who goes into hiding now that he's within the normal universe from his own, biding his time while he builds up power.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I'm pretty sure some calc members were not fully on board with Ugarik's calc. Until the calcs have been accepted, then we can do the CRT
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Migue and Mitch had an issue with using the sun to find the length of the cut, but Ugarik responded to both. Migue and he talked it over and Migue said that using the sun was fine, Mitch never responded. Since they had similar objections and one of them ultimately approved the calc, I'd said it looks good to go. If need be we can ask Mitch to give further evaluation.

Matt obviously had a huge issue with the calc, but he's not a CGM
 
So let's list what feats we got in this chapter:
more confirmation that Fubuki+Tatsumaki have telepathy,
Blast has dimensional travel (according to Tatsumaki),
7-A+/High 6-C feat from Homeless,
FU is a tier above Amai,
Gums shows off his elasticity again,
Amai will likely have low-mid regen (higher than his current low-high),
S-class and FU were able to dodge Homeless's blast (Iaian too),
Gums seemed to move faster than TTM could notice.

Did I miss any?
 
Ourosboros said:
So let's list what feats we got in this chapter:
more confirmation that Fubuki+Tatsumaki have telepathy,
Blast has dimensional travel (according to Tatsumaki),
7-A+/High 6-C feat from Homeless,
FU is a tier above Amai,
Gums shows off his elasticity again,
Amai will likely have low-mid regen (higher than his current low-high),
S-class and FU were able to dodge Homeless's blast (Iaian too),
Gums seemed to move faster than TTM could notice.

Did I miss any?
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Amai's dura should probably get downgraded as well, as fuhrer was likely just toying with him
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Amai's dura should probably get downgraded as well, as fuhrer was likely just toying with him
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True. And Gums should get large size too I think, type 0 at least. His mouth was room sized when he came up from under Pig God and TTM and then he's building-sized before he digests that concrete
 
Well... that was a bit quick. I would have preferred to wait a moment before making this CRT and included more stuff, but we can roll with it
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Amai's dura should probably get downgraded as well, as fuhrer was likely just toying with him
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Actually, we should probably wait for the redraws before we do this. The fight will be revisited in the coming weeks/couple months and it may change drastically
 
Ourosboros said:
Actually, we should probably wait for the redraws before we do this. The fight will be revisited in the coming weeks/couple months and it may change drastically
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Damn i totally forgot that the sweet mask vs FU fight got hakai'd
 
got into an argument about tatsumaki vs kaguya awhile ago on reddit because I didn't know how strong she was, we now both agree she stomps tatsumaki, but this guy think that kaguya and characters on her tier are solar system level with their attacks and could be arguable universal with their strongest attacks. :/
 
SemiRaedi said:
got into an argument about tatsumaki vs kaguya awhile ago on reddit because I didn't know how strong she was, we now both agree she stomps tatsumaki, but this guy think that kaguya and characters on her tier are solar system level with their attacks and could be arguable universal with their strongest attacks. :/
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solar system level for regular attacks and universe level for strongest attacks? bruh this man doesnt realize how unfathomably vast the difference between solar system and universe level is
 
I got into another argument with a guy where I said that HHG was stronger than Suiryu since I scaled Suiryu above choze who I called a mid demon while garou stomped TTM the moment he used FWSF and beat up the B - A class heroes while recovering from getting stomped from WDM and early into the fight got poisoned.

The guy thinks that Choze apparently has no definitive placement and that he wouldn't get blitzed by awakened cockroach and that its possible he could scale to bug god :////

hbu guys, where do you think Choze stands (I think he's a strong mid demon or weak high demon) and who do you think is stronger between Suiryu and Garou?
 
DbzDB2 said:
solar system level for regular attacks and universe level for strongest attacks? bruh this man doesnt realize how unfathomably vast the difference between solar system and universe level is
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He says that this is because of the characters being capable of creating and destroying their dimensions which look like they have universes in them
 
ah nvm its by genos stating the suiryu is S class level and choze fighting somewhat on par with him
 
damn, I didn't really think that would get him to low 7-B initially but since he was severely weakened I guess it makes sense, between Suiryu and Garou who do you think is stronger anyways, personally I think Suiryu has better AP but Garou has better durability and skill.
 
SemiRaedi said:
damn, I didn't really think that would get him to low 7-B initially but since he was severely weakened I guess it makes sense, between Suiryu and Garou who do you think is stronger anyways, personally I think Suiryu has better AP but Garou has better durability and skill.
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Exactly this, Suiryu with better AP, Garou with better skill and survivability.

I think the thing is, I personally see Bakuzan as a high demon, Suiryu as a lower higher demon and Choze below that so mid-demon would make sense if we downplay Bakuzan. But since Bakuzan is dragon level Suiryu is right below that and Choze right below him, putting Choze among the very upper echelons of demon
 
SemiRaedi said:
I got into another argument with a guy where I said that HHG was stronger than Suiryu since I scaled Suiryu above choze who I called a mid demon while garou stomped TTM the moment he used FWSF and beat up the B - A class heroes while recovering from getting stomped from WDM and early into the fight got poisoned.

The guy thinks that Choze apparently has no definitive placement and that he wouldn't get blitzed by awakened cockroach and that its possible he could scale to bug god :////

hbu guys, where do you think Choze stands (I think he's a strong mid demon or weak high demon) and who do you think is stronger between Suiryu and Garou?
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I also debated that guy. He's dumb but it is true that we can not say as a matter of fact who is stronger between the two of them.
 
we are in desperate need of upgrades. the characters have been stuck at these pathetic tiers for way too long with the exception of god tiers like tatsu and boros
 
I see two immediately viable routes for S-class/dragon level upgrades. No. 1: via scaling to Homeless Emperor in the coming fights (I doubt Homeless will godstomp everyone, the moment Bang deflects or Darkshine tanks a charged attack you got a bunch of 7-A+ or High 6-Cs), No.2: via scaling to the Orochi drill.

Goo-Orochi has deceptively high durability, partly due to his amorphous nature, but at best that's a kind of shockwave resistance/attack resistance thing- he's not immune to taking physical damage or anything. Therefore, attacks that can split him up and cause considerable damage must reach a certain threshold, evidently some level of dragon-level power. We saw the furthest extent of said durability when Tatsumaki hit him with the spear of light at superspeeds and Orochi got seriously deformed by the impact, then ground down. Like I said before, we should find the KE of the spear being thrown at Orochi to find his durability and scale/downscale the s-class from that
 
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