STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[ByAsura]

Technically Boros isn’t entirely featless outside of the moon kick

I got Supersonic+ (malding increases) from just one movement.

If the rocks are falling in real time and not a sort of panoramic, I'm sure the results will be far higher.

 

[Magmag]

Question, why isn’t Melzargard mhs for blitzing bang?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Question, why isn’t Melzargard mhs for blitzing bang?

He only caught Bang by surprise while Bang was distracted. Melz was getting Blitz by almost every other characters in the fight. Even characters slower than Bang

 

[ByAsura]

Because Bang, PPP and everyone's grandpa/grandma blitzed a fully fused Melz, who's faster than just a single body.

Melz only took him off guard after Bang killed one body.

 

[Magmag]

Yeah but off guard or not doesn’t matter cuz a supersonic+ just can’t even land on an off guard MHS

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

PPP later on blitzed Melzy many times before he could react.
The logic we currently present on the pages are Melzy > Sky King = Sea King >= PPP > Melzy??? It makes no sense. I've read the alien arc dozens of times for the past couple of months and every S Class member that comes across Melzy blitzes the poor dude.

He shouldn't scale to Bang either because he was holding back and even perception blitzed him earlier.

As a side note it's stated that Iaian was toying with his enemy and was noticeably blitzing Melzy while fighting him. Only having his arm taken off due to getting caught off guard and likely toying around.

 

[LordTracer]

Yeah but off guard or not doesn’t matter cuz a supersonic+ just can’t even land on an off guard MHS

Y-yeah, it can. If you’re not paying attention, you can 100% get hit by something vastly slower than you.

 

[ByAsura]

Bang wasn't even in good condition and was holding back.

All the factors in this situation suggest that's what happened (as much as I wished Melz was High Hypersonic, or something).

 

[Magmag]

Bang wasn't even in good condition and was holding back.

All the factors in this situation suggest that's what happened (as much as I wished Melz was High Hypersonic, or something).

So bang was holding back his speed with a 1000x decreaser…

 

[Magmag]

Y-yeah, it can. If you’re not paying attention, you can 100% get hit by something vastly slower than you.

It’s the equivalent to an athlete getting hit by a snail, and no, this is not an exaggeration.

 

[ByAsura]

So bang was holding back his speed with a 1000x decreaser…

Given that he, again, perception blitzed the fastest possible Melzalgald with no effort and is infinitely faster than PPP, I'd have to say yes.

Even BoS Iaian saw this.

 

[LordTracer]

It’s the equivalent to an athlete getting hit by a snail, and no, this is not an exaggeration.

Not to bring up other verses, but I read a comic earlier today where an MFTL+ character got tagged by a Hypersonic+ character so like-

 

[Quangotjokes]

garou would just redirect it like bang redirected hover's blasts.

Vaporized from the heat.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Not to bring up other verses, but I read a comic earlier today where an MFTL+ character got tagged by a Hypersonic+ character so like-

Was it DC

 

[Magmag]

Not to bring up other verses, but I read a comic earlier today where an MFTL+ character got tagged by a Hypersonic+ character so like-

what verseor what characters specifically

 

[ByAsura]

On another note, Flash in Zach Snyder's Justice League is an amazing example.

 

[LordTracer]

Was it DC

Yes

what verseor what characters specifically

Supergirl, while off-guard, got tagged by someone that Batman could throw hands with.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Ah yes I remember that one time Catwoman blitzed Barry, Wally and Wallace. How the fu-

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Yeah but off guard or not doesn’t matter cuz a supersonic+ just can’t even land on an off guard MHS

Also weren’t there many points in the fight where the S-class heroes landed dozens of blows before Melz could react or retaliate? Scaling them to each other seems kinda silly

 

[Magmag]

Given that he, again, perception blitzed the fastest possible Melzalgald with no effort and is infinitely faster than PPP, I'd have to say yes.

Even BoS Iaian saw this.

Yeah cool. That still doesn’t throw out my claim. Lowkey we gotta start adding 1000x multipliers to off guard characters since we know they’re capable of dropping there speed that much.
4 characters chilling at MHS+ struggle to take out a supersonic+ character even with regen aside…the logic isn’t there at all.

 

[Magmag]

Also weren’t there many points in the fight where the S-class heroes landed dozens of blows before Melz could react or retaliate? Scaling them to each other seems kinda silly

Except dragon ball is explicitly known to lower every stat off an off guard character when OPM does quite the opposite.

 

[ByAsura]

The entire previous discussion has thrown out your claim.

Melz didn't get a direct hit on any of them any other time, and only Bang is MHS+. It's literally all regen, and his performance against them is pathetic.

That's not how multipliers work, and what you're saying borders on calc stacking.

 

[UltimateDarkGod666]

Atomic Samurai statue and blitz released Boros hundreds of times over

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Well do you have a better argument than complaining?

 

[Tural2004]

Just wait until we get Boros ~ Garou scaling

 

[Magmag]

The entire previous discussion has thrown out your claim.

no.

Melz didn't get a hit on any of them any other time, and only Bang is MHS+. It's literally all regen.

with ur logic, if there so fast the fight couldve ended in an instant, PPP wouldn’t have needed to grab onto Melz, Bang wouldn’t have needed to perform any such movements. blah blah blah. The huge difference in speed is atrocious and the justifications behind how this 4v1 went down don’t add up.

That's not how multipliers work, and what you're saying borders on calc stacking.

It’s not calc stacking. it’s ur logic.

 

[Tural2004]

no

Excellent argument

 

[Magmag]

Well do you have a better argument than complaining?

Melzargard: up to _________

 

[Magmag]

Excellent argument

Ik. I’m just that guy. You gotta watch out tho, im supersonic+ and ur MHS+ but I can still tag you ez

 

[ByAsura]

with ur logic, if there so fast the fight couldve ended in an instant, PPP wouldn’t have needed to grab onto Melz, Bang wouldn’t have needed to perform any such movements. blah blah blah. The huge difference in speed is atrocious and the justifications behind how this 4v1 went down don’t add up.

It pretty much did. After the bullets stop, the fight goes on for 12 linear panels, some of which Bang isn't there for.

PPP isn't MHS+, PPP is Hypersonic. Also, he's surprised at this move, suggesting it wasn't purposefully to let Bang do this.

Against one character, who's blitzed Mel numerous times.

It’s not calc stacking. it’s ur logic.

It's nigh-calc stacking, and it's not my logic. I never said we could apply a moronic multiplier to everyone under the sun.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Plus, this is the only time Melz has even kept up with Bang. The good majority of the time, Melz was gettiing blitzed by EVERYONE. Even ******* Iaian was blitzing him for most of the fight.

 

[ByAsura]

I just remembered, but they didn't even know the exact location of all the marbles until here and Melz is capable of shifting them while fully formed. So they literally had no way to take him out instantly.

 

[Magmag]

It pretty much did.

scans? or should I say scan since it should be that quick.

PPP isn't MHS+, PPP is Hypersonic. Also, he's surprised at this move, suggesting it wasn't purposefully to let Bang do this.

Dodged lightning but that aside. PPP was useless in that situation and he still could’ve speed blitzed, but chose not to?

Against one character, who's blitzed Mel numerous times.

could’ve insta ended the fight tho, and not put up a dodging sequence.

It's nigh-calc stacking,

no.

and it's not my logic.

it is.

I never said we could apply a moronic multiplier to everyone under the sun.

u suggested it since you know…a snail can blitz and off guard athlete.

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

So bang was holding back his speed with a 1000x decreaser…

I mean, Saitama could hit Hero Hunter Garou and not kill him with a casual chop, and that's a Low 5-B+ or 5-B hitting a 7-B character, iirc.

 

[Magmag]

I just remembered, but they didn't even know the exact location of all the marbles until here and Melz is capable of shifting them while fully formed. So they literally had no way to take him out instantly.

Bat told them, they’re hundreds of times faster, an instant vaporization barrage of attacks before regen could even happen is what truest happens if you’re that much quicker.

 

[Magmag]

Plus, this is the only time Melz has even kept up with Bang. The good majority of the time, Melz was gettiing blitzed by EVERYONE. Even ******* Iaian was blitzing him for most of the fight.

it’s doesn’t matter if it happened once or hundreds of times. A snail caught an athlete.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Or you know, it could be an *ahem

Spoiler: Highly sensitive and offensive word

Outlier

because this is the ONLY time Melz keeps up with people much faster than hium in the fight, and people slower than Bang were blitzing him much more consistently.

 

[Magmag]

I mean, Saitama could hit Hero Hunter Garou and not kill him with a casual chop, and that's a Low 5-B+ or 5-B hitting a 7-B character, iirc.

dam, you got me there, never knew speed was the same as AP.

 

[LordTracer]

never knew speed was the same as AP.

Surprising, considering how many people around here like to argue that strength also means speed

 

[Magmag]

Or you know, it could be an *ahem

Spoiler: Highly sensitive and offensive word

Outlier

because this is the ONLY time Melz keeps up with people much faster than hium in the fight, and people slower than Bang were blitzing him much more consistently.

Yeah, but the speed difference here doesn’t even qualify as a blitz…bang is fast enough to do 1000 movements before Melzargard can do even 1. So…like…why’d the fight last a single second once they found out about regen marbles…