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Uh, when did this happen-
On this page. It's not necessarily casual, but it's MB sending back the pincer like an afterthought. Metal Bat contending with a monster stronger than Platinum Sperm gets less focus than him and Garou having a silly argument.

Also I hate how Suiryu told us: "hey guys, don't be afraid of Garou, he's not a real killer" while the entire webcomic resolution tried to convince us that Garou had finally embraced monsterization and was willing to kill a couple heroes/let ENW kill them, etc. Is this no longer Garou's arc? If Suiryu had been scared by Garou's killing intent (and Garou had not looked like a clown on national TV) it would have done more for me. If Suiryu and MB can see through Garou's act, who is going to be convinced?

If that internal tension is going to be pushed aside, it almost makes you think they might make Garou into an outright anti-hero in this arc because Bang got through to him in his fight and they'll turn in a pure brawl with an unambiguously evil guy like "God".
 
And then there's Metal Bat literally saying that Garou is more normal and sane than he was as a Hero Hunter. Which makes so little ******* sense it's kinda driving me crazy. Garou is literally trying to become a genuine Monster, one who needs to bring terror and chaos upon the entire world. And yet Metal Bat himself thinks that Garou is nicer than he was when he was fully human? Like, ???????????????????? ONE? Murata? Is Murata getting orders from an imposter now?
 
Suiryu saying "I don't feel much killing intent from that thing" and Metal Bat saying "You're more sane than when you were a Hero Hunter" are easily the worst events in the entire chapter.

Like holy shit, its like his development completely reversed...
 
Garoy always wanted to be a hero so his character now makes sense. Somethings likely going to happen which will cause him to because darker until Saitama puts him back In his place.
 
Garoy always wanted to be a hero so his character now makes sense. Somethings likely going to happen which will cause him to because darker until Saitama puts him back In his place.
Well, but the resolution being this easy for him? Bang was far less psychopathic in chasing his goals, but he had to get decisively beat down to get that shaken out of him. Why would TTM, Metal Bat, and all the other heroes he mercilessly beat up, crippled and deprived of their limbs as a hero hunter not convince him to strike a straighter path to justice, but being woken up by Bang and having a flashback does? I'm so confused and hope this isn't the direction we're going
 
I'm still hoping for Tareo to die so that Garou goes completely insane and becomes the Incarnation of Evil.
Having Tareo die because of some of the heroes being distracted or terrified of the monsters would be the only way that I can see Garou get his wc mindset back. They can even make it a fake-out with the helicopter being a fake made by one of the scientist to distract EOW or another villain.
 
Also, Saitama Vs. Garou is totally gonna get the time it needs and not be rushed with mid-tier Murata art!

I hate to admit it, but yeah, Murata is going too fast. Yes, the chapters are absolutely stunning, and it's absolutely crazy how he's able to draw such great art in this little time. And yes, there's that occasional double-panel that is perfect every way. But if you compare Murata's artwork now to what it was before... It doesn't hold a candle. There are multiple panels where I think he should've spent a bit more time on, and his usage of shading lately has been a little shaky.

I mean, just go back and look at Boros vs Saitama, or the Deep Sea King arc, or the Meteor Arc. It doesn't even seem like the same artist drew those scenes at this point. I know I said the opposite of this a while ago, but I'm starting to see what people mean.

I'm not 100% sure if it's just because he's going so fast, but if it is, I'd really prefer him to slow down.
 
My theory is Amai mask being the menace he is, is gonna pop up after metal bat is taken out and mentally dismantle Garou and make him go berserk again. Amai mask gets taken out, EOW comes back from the “dead” and Saitama smacks him after EOW comes up from behind Saitama and Garou senses EOW killing intent. And that’s when Saitama vs Garou begins.
 
Well, but the resolution being this easy for him? Bang was far less psychopathic in chasing his goals, but he had to get decisively beat down to get that shaken out of him. Why would TTM, Metal Bat, and all the other heroes he mercilessly beat up, crippled and deprived of their limbs as a hero hunter not convince him to strike a straighter path to justice, but being woken up by Bang and having a flashback does? I'm so confused and hope this isn't the direction we're going
Because he had finally become the perfect monster, he had achieved his goal only for Saitama to show up and stop him. He even referred to him as the world's "unfairness" lol. Garou was never really evil just took a misguided direction with his strength which Bang points out.
 
I went to reread the webcomic and man, this chapter was a complete kick in the ass compared to the Garou there, I really don't know what they're going to do from now on, but I'm sure it will be almost impossible to insert this comic Garou with the scary and webcomic oppressor
Yeah I reread it just now as well, and the difference is even worse than I thought... The webcomic is so good...
 
On the bright side, Murata must have heard the guys who were telling me that "OPM is trash compared to verses like One Piece outside of the god tiers" and he's giving feats that prove exactly the opposite, going as far to buff guys like MB to darn near Yonko level.
 
I don't understand why you guys don't like the latest chapter, I don't think there's anything wrong with the latest chapter, Garou is not a real monster he's just an ordinary human pretending to be a monster, of course he won't act like an evil real monster, we shouldn't expect Garou to be evil because there is nothing that supports Garou to be evil
 
Aside from Garou being comical, I also don't like FTL Metal Bat... It would be quite of a shock if Metal Bat really stood on equal ground with Garou and destroyed SC next chapter. The scaling is a mess.
 
I don't understand why you guys don't like the latest chapter, I don't think there's anything wrong with the latest chapter, Garou is not a real monster he's just an ordinary human pretending to be a monster, of course he won't act like an evil real monster, we shouldn't expect Garou to be evil because there is nothing that supports Garou to be evil
It's easier to just say read the webcomic to understand. I would be here all day if I explain why Garou's characterization in this chapter is doodoo.
 
I don't understand why you guys don't like the latest chapter, I don't think there's anything wrong with the latest chapter, Garou is not a real monster he's just an ordinary human pretending to be a monster, of course he won't act like an evil real monster, we shouldn't expect Garou to be evil because there is nothing that supports Garou to be evil
go read the webcomic, and then come back here.

if you still think that this chapter holds up in any conceivable way, then I think you're taste is just very... bad. In the nicest way possible.
 
I hate to admit it, but yeah, Murata is going too fast. Yes, the chapters are absolutely stunning, and it's absolutely crazy how he's able to draw such great art in this little time. And yes, there's that occasional double-panel that is perfect every way. But if you compare Murata's artwork now to what it was before... It doesn't hold a candle. There are multiple panels where I think he should've spent a bit more time on, and his usage of shading lately has been a little shaky.

I mean, just go back and look at Boros vs Saitama, or the Deep Sea King arc, or the Meteor Arc. It doesn't even seem like the same artist drew those scenes at this point. I know I said the opposite of this a while ago, but I'm starting to see what people mean.

I'm not 100% sure if it's just because he's going so fast, but if it is, I'd really prefer him to slow down.
I don't completely mind an exchange in quality for speed. I think it should be a mix. Murata is trying too hard to get the chapters out quickly. But I think it's better than waiting up to months at a time like it used to be, regardless. I kind of like Murata specifically drawing certain pages with very high quality while most of the rest are average for his current level. But when it comes to Garou Vs. Saitama, I'd genuinely want him to take a bare minimum of a month for each chapter it has. If not multiple months for one gigantic chapter, but that's unlikely. No matter what specific direction he goes in that regard, Saitama Vs. Garou absolutely cannot be rushed. It would still look good even if Murata held this same schedule for it, but it shouldn't just be good, it should be the best art Murata has made for the manga, or at least close to it, because of the narrative impact it has.
 
I don't understand why you guys don't like the latest chapter, I don't think there's anything wrong with the latest chapter, Garou is not a real monster he's just an ordinary human pretending to be a monster, of course he won't act like an evil real monster, we shouldn't expect Garou to be evil because there is nothing that supports Garou to be evil
He was never genuinely evil, but he was very much a bad person. This Garou isn't a Monster, a villain, or a bad guy at all. He's just a Hero with an attitude problem in this chapter.

The original Garou is a Hero Hunter who brutally beat and CRIPPLED multiple innocent people because he doesn't like them.
 
go read the webcomic, and then come back here.

if you still think that this chapter holds up in any conceivable way, then I think you're taste is just very... bad. In the nicest way possible.
I've read the webcomic, and of course you can't equate Garou in the webcomic with the tonari version because basically they are developed differently, in fact current Garou is much better in terms of character than the one in the webcomic, because Garou now has two personalities, does not rule out the possibility his evil personality will take over him later
 
I've read the webcomic, and of course you can't equate Garou in the webcomic with the tonari version because basically they are developed differently, in fact current Garou is much better in terms of character than the one in the webcomic, because Garou now has two personalities, does not rule out the possibility his evil personality will take over him later
Two personalities defeats the entire purpose of his arc. Not even including his webcomic self.

Also, Garou and his webcomic were pretty much one-to-one in likeness until Bang vs Garou happened.
 
garou gonna either get played by god in a way and turns edgy or Tareo gonna get killed but it'd be a fake out for him to go edgy and all evil(maybe heroes prioritizing the asshole rich kid instead after an accident which triggers garou even more about heroes) until the end of the arc where Tareo appears after someone (a hero probably, maybe saitama going so fast no one see's him and they assume tareo is dead) saved him . which would honestly make a lot of sense now that i am thinking about it . if tareo do appear at the end to save garou after this happening it would i think be more meaningful than the WC one.

on the down side we might not get the garou threatening to kill the ugly kid or just change the kid to the rich asshole one
 
I disagree slightly. I kind of think the quality dipped when the heroes that HE and Fuhrer attacked where still alive.

I have nothing out for them as characters, but it's a little too ridiculous even for OPM that they're alive.
 
I also liked how in the webcomic only Saitama could easily tell Garou was bluffing, even calling Garou a guy in a funny suit. It sorta adds to Saitama being able to read people very well.
Yea and everyone else thought Garou's bluffs were true or Garou was bluffing because he is evil and wants to throw off the heroes.
 
"
There are multiple complaints that the manga has "ruined" Garou's character, and how he is a "gag" character, how he isn't the absolute evil that he should be (?), how there's lack of stakes, etc. I will be addressing all of these complaints in this one post.

To start, for the complaints about the lack of stakes; that's the point. Saitama being there fully evaporates any stakes that any monster would have and the story is actively making fun of this fact, which it has always done. If you don't like the lack of stakes here then you shouldn't like that Saitama was introduced this early from the start.

Garou teaming up with Metal Bat is perfectly in character as well. Garou stopped fighting Metal Bat because a child did so, and Garou literally saw Metal Bat protecting Tareo, which is obviously the most important person to him currently. It would be out of character for Garou to prioritize hunting Metal Bat when he literally saw Metal Bat was willing to protect the most important person to him. I feel that people conveniently leaving this part out.

For the complaints that SC and ENO ended up being useless; do you not realize what manga you're reading? Beefcake, Vaccine Man, Carnage Kabuto etc. all got the same treatment.

And lastly, Garou's character. Seriously, the amount of people thinking Garou was going to become an absolute evil is baffling. There have been countless hints, even straight up entire scenes showing that Garou isn't this evil monster he's out to be. He straight up protected civilians in dine and dash, he stopped fighting when a little child told him to, he stopped fighting Darkshine when he had flashbacks of bullying, he went up against monsters and heroes alike trying to protect a child. He is NOT supposed to be a human monster. He is NOT supposed to be a villain. His entire character arc is that it's all a facade because in truth he wants to become a hero. The point of the light hearted scenes, is again, to satirize this. This could all be accomplished without the goofy faces, which I agree shouldn't be there, but that doesn't mean the idea is bad. For the people complaining that the stakes aren't like the webcomic: That's only because Saitama wasn't there like Saitama is here currently. If you notice the moment Saitama arrived the story treated it like a comedy scene; the S-Class ignoring Saitama just like Garou is ignoring Metal Bat. And that's the point.

The point of this chapter is to set up Garou's eventual fight with the S-Class, and to set up something happening to Tareo. The light-hearted stakes here is only meant to set up the dark-hearted stakes we'll eventually get when Garou's human side will begin to cover up and it really seems like he'll become a monster, only making it more impactful when the S-Class and Saitama goes up against him, and the S-Class calling for his death. And finally, this is to bring in the comedy and the parody that OPM was originally, that the latest chapters seem to have a lack of."

Found this on Reddit. Pretty good take on the current chapter.
 
"
There are multiple complaints that the manga has "ruined" Garou's character, and how he is a "gag" character, how he isn't the absolute evil that he should be (?), how there's lack of stakes, etc. I will be addressing all of these complaints in this one post.

To start, for the complaints about the lack of stakes; that's the point. Saitama being there fully evaporates any stakes that any monster would have and the story is actively making fun of this fact, which it has always done. If you don't like the lack of stakes here then you shouldn't like that Saitama was introduced this early from the start.

Garou teaming up with Metal Bat is perfectly in character as well. Garou stopped fighting Metal Bat because a child did so, and Garou literally saw Metal Bat protecting Tareo, which is obviously the most important person to him currently. It would be out of character for Garou to prioritize hunting Metal Bat when he literally saw Metal Bat was willing to protect the most important person to him. I feel that people conveniently leaving this part out.

For the complaints that SC and ENO ended up being useless; do you not realize what manga you're reading? Beefcake, Vaccine Man, Carnage Kabuto etc. all got the same treatment.

And lastly, Garou's character. Seriously, the amount of people thinking Garou was going to become an absolute evil is baffling. There have been countless hints, even straight up entire scenes showing that Garou isn't this evil monster he's out to be. He straight up protected civilians in dine and dash, he stopped fighting when a little child told him to, he stopped fighting Darkshine when he had flashbacks of bullying, he went up against monsters and heroes alike trying to protect a child. He is NOT supposed to be a human monster. He is NOT supposed to be a villain. His entire character arc is that it's all a facade because in truth he wants to become a hero. The point of the light hearted scenes, is again, to satirize this. This could all be accomplished without the goofy faces, which I agree shouldn't be there, but that doesn't mean the idea is bad. For the people complaining that the stakes aren't like the webcomic: That's only because Saitama wasn't there like Saitama is here currently. If you notice the moment Saitama arrived the story treated it like a comedy scene; the S-Class ignoring Saitama just like Garou is ignoring Metal Bat. And that's the point.

The point of this chapter is to set up Garou's eventual fight with the S-Class, and to set up something happening to Tareo. The light-hearted stakes here is only meant to set up the dark-hearted stakes we'll eventually get when Garou's human side will begin to cover up and it really seems like he'll become a monster, only making it more impactful when the S-Class and Saitama goes up against him, and the S-Class calling for his death. And finally, this is to bring in the comedy and the parody that OPM was originally, that the latest chapters seem to have a lack of."

Found this on Reddit. Pretty good take on the current chapter.
I agree with u 3000%
 
"
There are multiple complaints that the manga has "ruined" Garou's character, and how he is a "gag" character, how he isn't the absolute evil that he should be (?), how there's lack of stakes, etc. I will be addressing all of these complaints in this one post.

To start, for the complaints about the lack of stakes; that's the point. Saitama being there fully evaporates any stakes that any monster would have and the story is actively making fun of this fact, which it has always done. If you don't like the lack of stakes here then you shouldn't like that Saitama was introduced this early from the start.

Garou teaming up with Metal Bat is perfectly in character as well. Garou stopped fighting Metal Bat because a child did so, and Garou literally saw Metal Bat protecting Tareo, which is obviously the most important person to him currently. It would be out of character for Garou to prioritize hunting Metal Bat when he literally saw Metal Bat was willing to protect the most important person to him. I feel that people conveniently leaving this part out.

For the complaints that SC and ENO ended up being useless; do you not realize what manga you're reading? Beefcake, Vaccine Man, Carnage Kabuto etc. all got the same treatment.

And lastly, Garou's character. Seriously, the amount of people thinking Garou was going to become an absolute evil is baffling. There have been countless hints, even straight up entire scenes showing that Garou isn't this evil monster he's out to be. He straight up protected civilians in dine and dash, he stopped fighting when a little child told him to, he stopped fighting Darkshine when he had flashbacks of bullying, he went up against monsters and heroes alike trying to protect a child. He is NOT supposed to be a human monster. He is NOT supposed to be a villain. His entire character arc is that it's all a facade because in truth he wants to become a hero. The point of the light hearted scenes, is again, to satirize this. This could all be accomplished without the goofy faces, which I agree shouldn't be there, but that doesn't mean the idea is bad. For the people complaining that the stakes aren't like the webcomic: That's only because Saitama wasn't there like Saitama is here currently. If you notice the moment Saitama arrived the story treated it like a comedy scene; the S-Class ignoring Saitama just like Garou is ignoring Metal Bat. And that's the point.

The point of this chapter is to set up Garou's eventual fight with the S-Class, and to set up something happening to Tareo. The light-hearted stakes here is only meant to set up the dark-hearted stakes we'll eventually get when Garou's human side will begin to cover up and it really seems like he'll become a monster, only making it more impactful when the S-Class and Saitama goes up against him, and the S-Class calling for his death. And finally, this is to bring in the comedy and the parody that OPM was originally, that the latest chapters seem to have a lack of."

Found this on Reddit. Pretty good take on the current chapter.
yo some actual sense being posted in this thread

man i'm glad replying to long posts auto minimizes it, and doesn't show the whole thing
 
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