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[AtomicSekiro]

Metal Bat being equal to Garou is something that is unavoidable, many might think that Metal Bat's physique becomes stronger when he takes damage, but in the databook it says when his anger reaches the maximum then his striking power will reach infinity, with that we can conclude that the emotion of metal bat is a factor in increasing his physical strength.

Besides that, isn't the word "infinity" enough to prove that Metal Bat can indeed be as fast as or even stronger than Garou, I don't think it's wrong to scale Metal Bat to Garou.

One, how reliable is the translation here?

Two, the databooks are written like HA propaganda. Do NOT take them literally. There are so many hyperbolic statements in there.

Three, the HA doesn’t know how fighting spirit works. Hell, barely anyone does, readers included.

Four, we’ve only seen damage increase his strength in the actual series.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Metal Bat‘s bat was made by Metal Knight.

Metal Knight was instantly destroyed by a single Orochi tentacle.

Metal Bat’s bat can take a hit from Big Centipede’s antennae.

Hmmmm.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Metal Bat‘s bat was made by Metal Knight

Where's that stated?

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Where's that stated?

Hmm. I thought it was implied in an extra chapter showing the origin of his bat. I guess I misremembered it tho.

 

[Tinodesu]

One, how reliable is the translation here?

There is nothing wrong with the transition

Two, the databooks are written like HA propaganda. Do NOT take them literally. There are so many hyperbolic statements in there

Although hyperbole, it is still relevant because it shows us how the author sees his own character, if metal bat can touch the level of infinity then it means he is one of the strongest characters in the eyes of the author.

Three, the HA doesn’t know how fighting spirit works. Hell, barely anyone does, readers included.

What about Saitama and Boros ? Where did HA got their information ?, obviously the stats came from the Author.

Four, we’ve only seen damage increase his strength in the actual series.

Then he won't be able to keep up with the monster garou's speed if we use his state when he first faced the human garou as his initial state.

 

[NikHelton]

Nice catch

Caught on what, lmao?
SS is initially chasing the helicopter with the Tareo, then the bat appears and only then does the second helicopter appear.
Garou originally ran to save the children.

 

[Kin201]

Metal Bat being equal to Garou is something that is unavoidable, many might think that Metal Bat's physique becomes stronger when he takes damage, but in the databook it says when his anger reaches the maximum then his striking power will reach infinity, with that we can conclude that the emotion of metal bat is a factor in increasing his physical strength.

Besides that, isn't the word "infinity" enough to prove that Metal Bat can indeed be as fast as or even stronger than Garou, I don't think it's wrong to scale Metal Bat to Garou.

We should wait for the next chapter to make sure if he is equal to Garou.

Caught on what, lmao?
SS is initially chasing the helicopter with the Tareo, then the bat appears and only then does the second helicopter appear.
Garou originally ran to save the children.

I posted it because I thought you weren't aware there were two helicopters. It's my bad. I don't know why you quoted him. You should have quoted my message instead.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

There is nothing wrong with the transition


Although hyperbole, it is still relevant because it shows us how the author sees his own character, if metal bat can touch the level of infinity then it means he is one of the strongest characters in the eyes of the author.


What about Saitama and Boros ? Where did HA got their information ?, obviously the stats came from the Author.

Then he won't be able to keep up with the monster garou's speed if we use his state when he first faced the human garou as his initial state.

One, how so? What’s the direct translation??

Two, yes, it’s hyperbolic. So it can’t be used. Anything else you say is a headcanon.

Three, it’s written as HA propaganda. The Boros parts are “what if?” sort of pages. They’re not from the author, they are designed and stylised as in universe propaganda.

Exactly. Which is why he wasn’t keeping up with Garou, Garou was keeping down for him. He’s pacing himself.

 

[NikHelton]

I agree that we need to wait for the next chapter, because the scaling is not completely convincing.
But to deny it is as stupid as possible, because Murata shows Bat and Garou as rivals throughout the chapter.

 

[AtomicSekiro]

What would the result be if Psykorochi fired her continent slicer at Evil Natural Ocean?

 

[Whiz_Almighty]

 

[Whiz_Almighty]

 

[Whiz_Almighty]

Next chapter 6-A Sage Centipede, Garou and Metal Bat
Ftl Sage Centipede and Metal Bat

 

[Tinodesu]

Two, yes, it’s hyperbolic. So it can’t be used. Anything else you say is a headcanon.

Then what does this have to do with a metal bat as strong as Garou ?

Three, it’s written as HA propaganda. The Boros parts are “what if?” sort of pages. They’re not from the author, they are designed and stylised as in universe propaganda.

Bring me the proof

Exactly. Which is why he wasn’t keeping up with Garou, Garou was keeping down for him. He’s pacing himself.

he managed to catch up to garou who was chasing SC,it just your opinion that Garou was keeping down.

 

[Whiz_Almighty]

God Tareo appears and says something like "Help me". Garou will reach out to grab his hand accepting god's power. Boom! Awakened Garou is born

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

God Tareo appears and says something like "Help me". Garou will reach out to grab his hand accepting god's power. Boom! Awakened Garou is born

Aw hell naw

 

[NikHelton]

I did a rough sketch of Saitama's feat calculation and was thinking of using the method from Orochi's feat, but it doesn't work here.
According to the received, we go High 6-B + / 6-A.
To be honest, it would be better if it was a normal blow, and not a serious one

 

[Whiz_Almighty]

This thread has been inactive lately

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

This thread has been inactive lately

??

 

[Magmag]

I did a rough sketch of Saitama's feat calculation and was thinking of using the method from Orochi's feat, but it doesn't work here.
According to the received, we go High 6-B + / 6-A.
To be honest, it would be better if it was a normal blow, and not a serious one

Murata is probably setting up something > than a serious punch when Saitama faces Garou, we know about table flip and head butt but he could incorporate something else. Or Murata shows us the entire landscape of the table flip and headbutt to see the damage.

 

[CheatHydra]

Yeah especially after the last serious punch, i highly doubt its Saitama's final move. He probably has more.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I wonder what powerscalers did to the OPM subreddit ? Cuz everytime I open that site, they have new posts making fun of us lol

About the next arcs, I really hope to see Tatsumaki's Eleven Arc and Flash's 2nd Ninja Arc, they better not be just excuses to remove them from the battle

 

[ImposingTiger]

They are mad that they lose every debate.

 

[Ourosboros]

God Tareo appears and says something like "Help me". Garou will reach out to grab his hand accepting god's power. Boom! Awakened Garou is born

"Hey, Murata can't do that... shoot him, or something!"

 

[Muuuuh]

 

[Quangotjokes]

 

[Kachon123]

Aokiji says hi.

 

[Ourosboros]

Speaking of One Piece, the OPM page needs something like this where we list the calcs that all tiers scale to, put right below the calculations list. I say we make a list like this and put in the next CRT.

Notes​

• The 8-B's like Buggy are scaled to Laboon's Calc (84.623 Tons)
• The 7-C's like Mr. 1 are scaled to Pell's Durability Calc (23.5 Kilotons)
• The lower High 7-C's like Wyper and Skypiea Zoro are scaled to 10x the previous value (235 Kilotons)
• The higher High 7-C's like Enel are scaled to Enel's calc (243 Kilotons)
• The High 7-C+’s like Thriller Bark Usopp and Franky are 2x weaker than Low 7-B’s characters due to having to combined their attacks to do damage to them (650 Kilotons)
• The Low 7-B's like Thriller Bark G2nd Luffy and Diable Jambe Sanji who scale to this (1.3 Megatons)
• The 7-B's like Gladius are scaled to be 1/2 as strong as Pica's Calc (31.07 Megatons)
• The 7-B+'s like Hakuba are scaled to Pica's Calc (62.14 Megatons)
• The 7-A’s like Caesar Clown and Buffalo’s Durability are scaled to 1/3 as durable as the lowest High 7-A’s (333.33 Megatons)
• The 7-A+'s like Overdosed Hody are scaled to be 16x stronger than Pica's Calc (994.24 Megatons)
• The lowest High 7-A's like Beginning of Timeskip Gear 2nd Luffy and Post-Udon Prison Training Base Luffy are upscaled far higher than the highest 7-A+'s (1 Gigaton)
• The highest High 7-A's like Beginning of Timeskip Sanji are scaled to be 2x stronger than the lowest High 7-A's (2 Gigatons)
• The High 7-A+'s like Monster Hody are scaled to be 4x stronger than the highest 7-A+'s (3.98 Gigatons)
• The lowest 6-C's like Beginning of Timeskip Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy and Beginning of Timeskip Zoro are upscaled far higher than the High 7-A+'s (4.3 Gigatons)
• The middle 6-C's like Beginning of Timeskip Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy's Strongest Attacks are scaled to be 4x stronger than the highest High 7-A+'s (15.92 Gigatons)
• The highest 6-C's like Post-Katakuri Fight Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy's Strongest Attacks are scaled to be 4x stronger than the lowest 6-C's (17.2 Gigatons)

 

[Kachon123]

Speaking of One Piece, the OPM page needs something like this where we list the calcs that all tiers scale to, put right below the calculations list. I say we make a list like this and put in the next CRT.

Notes​

• The 8-B's like Buggy are scaled to Laboon's Calc (84.623 Tons)
• The 7-C's like Mr. 1 are scaled to Pell's Durability Calc (23.5 Kilotons)
• The lower High 7-C's like Wyper and Skypiea Zoro are scaled to 10x the previous value (235 Kilotons)
• The higher High 7-C's like Enel are scaled to Enel's calc (243 Kilotons)
• The High 7-C+’s like Thriller Bark Usopp and Franky are 2x weaker than Low 7-B’s characters due to having to combined their attacks to do damage to them (650 Kilotons)
• The Low 7-B's like Thriller Bark G2nd Luffy and Diable Jambe Sanji who scale to this (1.3 Megatons)
• The 7-B's like Gladius are scaled to be 1/2 as strong as Pica's Calc (31.07 Megatons)
• The 7-B+'s like Hakuba are scaled to Pica's Calc (62.14 Megatons)
• The 7-A’s like Caesar Clown and Buffalo’s Durability are scaled to 1/3 as durable as the lowest High 7-A’s (333.33 Megatons)
• The 7-A+'s like Overdosed Hody are scaled to be 16x stronger than Pica's Calc (994.24 Megatons)
• The lowest High 7-A's like Beginning of Timeskip Gear 2nd Luffy and Post-Udon Prison Training Base Luffy are upscaled far higher than the highest 7-A+'s (1 Gigaton)
• The highest High 7-A's like Beginning of Timeskip Sanji are scaled to be 2x stronger than the lowest High 7-A's (2 Gigatons)
• The High 7-A+'s like Monster Hody are scaled to be 4x stronger than the highest 7-A+'s (3.98 Gigatons)
• The lowest 6-C's like Beginning of Timeskip Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy and Beginning of Timeskip Zoro are upscaled far higher than the High 7-A+'s (4.3 Gigatons)
• The middle 6-C's like Beginning of Timeskip Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy's Strongest Attacks are scaled to be 4x stronger than the highest High 7-A+'s (15.92 Gigatons)
• The highest 6-C's like Post-Katakuri Fight Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy's Strongest Attacks are scaled to be 4x stronger than the lowest 6-C's (17.2 Gigatons)

I completely agree

 

[Theendzero13]

We might divide the calcs on principal and supporting calculations as well, because right now it looks very convoluted

 

[boom]

how do you learn pixels scale

 

[SemiRaedi]

Aokiji says hi.

Sludge jellyfish says hi

 

[Ourosboros]

We might divide the calcs on principal and supporting calculations as well, because right now it looks very convoluted

Well, I would say we do one or another. Ideally we prioritize calcs that many characters scale to on the list, but we also include relevant supporting calcs and calcs that show the variation in tiers (E.G. Homeless's calc). If we have a section that describes who scales to what then dividing the calcs into principle and supporting would not be necessary.

 

[Kachon123]

Sludge jellyfish says hi

Oven says hi

 

[Franako]

 

[M3X_2.0]

Speaking of One Piece, the OPM page needs something like this where we list the calcs that all tiers scale to, put right below the calculations list. I say we make a list like this and put in the next CRT.

Notes​

• The 8-B's like Buggy are scaled to Laboon's Calc (84.623 Tons)
• The 7-C's like Mr. 1 are scaled to Pell's Durability Calc (23.5 Kilotons)
• The lower High 7-C's like Wyper and Skypiea Zoro are scaled to 10x the previous value (235 Kilotons)
• The higher High 7-C's like Enel are scaled to Enel's calc (243 Kilotons)
• The High 7-C+’s like Thriller Bark Usopp and Franky are 2x weaker than Low 7-B’s characters due to having to combined their attacks to do damage to them (650 Kilotons)
• The Low 7-B's like Thriller Bark G2nd Luffy and Diable Jambe Sanji who scale to this (1.3 Megatons)
• The 7-B's like Gladius are scaled to be 1/2 as strong as Pica's Calc (31.07 Megatons)
• The 7-B+'s like Hakuba are scaled to Pica's Calc (62.14 Megatons)
• The 7-A’s like Caesar Clown and Buffalo’s Durability are scaled to 1/3 as durable as the lowest High 7-A’s (333.33 Megatons)
• The 7-A+'s like Overdosed Hody are scaled to be 16x stronger than Pica's Calc (994.24 Megatons)
• The lowest High 7-A's like Beginning of Timeskip Gear 2nd Luffy and Post-Udon Prison Training Base Luffy are upscaled far higher than the highest 7-A+'s (1 Gigaton)
• The highest High 7-A's like Beginning of Timeskip Sanji are scaled to be 2x stronger than the lowest High 7-A's (2 Gigatons)
• The High 7-A+'s like Monster Hody are scaled to be 4x stronger than the highest 7-A+'s (3.98 Gigatons)
• The lowest 6-C's like Beginning of Timeskip Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy and Beginning of Timeskip Zoro are upscaled far higher than the High 7-A+'s (4.3 Gigatons)
• The middle 6-C's like Beginning of Timeskip Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy's Strongest Attacks are scaled to be 4x stronger than the highest High 7-A+'s (15.92 Gigatons)
• The highest 6-C's like Post-Katakuri Fight Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy's Strongest Attacks are scaled to be 4x stronger than the lowest 6-C's (17.2 Gigatons)

I can do that

 

[Ourosboros]

Aokiji says hi.

Which calc does Aokiji scale to, the 26 teratons one?

If EOW is say, 100 kilometers in diameter (a fair highball I'd say), it'd take 14 teratons to freeze EOW if he works like ordinary water.

 

[SemiRaedi]

Oven says hi

High 8-C > an oven, I don't make the rules

 

[Kin201]

Which calc does Aokiji scale to, the 13 teratons one?

He refers to Aokiji's ability to freeze ocean.

 

[SemiRaedi]

Which calc does Aokiji scale to, the 13 teratons one?

Aokiji can freeze huge bodies of water so he oneshot EOW without needing an AP advantage

EOW has more AP so Aokiji can't damage him lol