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[Ourosboros]

He refers to Aokiji's ability to freeze ocean.

Yes, but that calc was mountain level if I recall, and the area affected may be smaller than EOW (23 kilometers wide and 9 kilometers long) and it only had to be like 10-20 meters deep. That would be a little coat on EOW that any water jet would break through. The important thing is that Aokiji can freeze EOW's entire mass without too much difficulty

 

[Kachon123]

14 teratons to freeze EOW if he works like ordinary water

ENW was able to get frozen, so i don't see why Aokiji can't freeze EOW. Aokiji was even able to freeze Whitebears Tsunami's

 

[SemiRaedi]

Yes, but that calc was mountain level if I recall, and the area affected may be smaller than EOW (23 kilometers wide and 9 kilometers long) and it only had to be like 10-20 meters deep. That would be a little coat on EOW that any water jet would break through. The important thing is that Aokiji can freeze EOW's entire mass without too much difficulty

True, we could make a match up once EOW is updated and ask the OP supporters how big Aokiji's range is (his profile says over tens of kilometers (Froze a sea beyond the horizon and permanently altered the state of half of Punk Hazard with his powers))

 

[Ourosboros]

True, we could make a match up once EOW is updated and ask the OP supporters how big Aokiji's range is (his profile says over tens of kilometers (Froze a sea beyond the horizon and permanently altered the state of half of Punk Hazard with his powers))

Range helps, but it also needs to be very deep, hundreds of meters at least, but preferably kilometers. Strong enough to prevent the remaining mobile water from firing off a comparable grand cannon from the remaining water mass. I

Also wait a minute, Aokiji took a couple seconds to freeze those tsunamis, EOW can move and attack in that time

 

[AtomicSekiro]

Does ENW even have durability since he’s… literally just water? How does he work?! What is the durability of water?!

 

[Damage3245]

Aokiji would make a wall of ice in front of the One Piece verse when the water cannon first reaches them.... then that wall of ice would slam into the One Piece verse and crush 99% of them as the force of the EOW's cannon continues to hit the back of the ice and pushes it.

 

[Ourosboros]

Does ENW even have durability since he’s… literally just water? How does he work?! What is the durability of water?!

At least the energy required to disperse water in that quantity, or boil it up or freeze it. Water is pretty durable stuff square meter per square meter.

That said, EOW presumably has disproportionately high durability... presumably because we've only ever seen characters far above his own AP hit him, so he disperses like water would.

It's unfortunate that we've never seen him tank an attack, makes him look like a glass cannon which I don't think he is.

 

[Ourosboros]

I can't wait to get EOW scaled and calced (I'll try it myself this weekend) so we can put him in a match, I think EOW might be large island and below the One Piece God Tiers. We'll see though. If he and One Piece God tiers end up close, we should definitely put him against one or multiple devil fruit users.

 

[Magmag]

I can't wait to get EOW scaled and calced (I'll try it myself this weekend) so we can put him in a match, I think EOW might be large island and below the One Piece God Tiers. We'll see though. If he and One Piece God tiers end up close, we should definitely put him against one or multiple devil fruit users.

Country level+

 

[Quangotjokes]

Does ENW even have durability since he’s… literally just water? How does he work?! What is the durability of water?!

In a sense if you factor in the KE of its movement.

 

[Quangotjokes]

Note that EOW doesn't lose size when it shoots so it's constantly moving the eater within itself and regenerating.

 

[ElajRuengies]

Does ENW even have durability since he’s… literally just water? How does he work?! What is the durability of water?!

ENW's currently rated as "Unknown" because of that. A proper description would probably be something like-

Durability: Unknown (Literally just water lmao) Intangibility makes it hard to damage.

Given what was said about King's Ultimate Hellfire Wave Motion Cannon by Child Emperor (in the webcomic at least), something that could vaporize ENW could kill it, so its highest possible durability would likely be the vaporization value of its volume, although I'm not sure that's still accurate in the manga given how Saitama just punched it and it died(?). Plus, the vaporization value would be probably be insane at this point.

 

[Quangotjokes]

ENW's currently rated as "Unknown" because of that. A proper description would probably be something like-

Durability: Unknown (Literally just water lmao) Intangibility makes it hard to damage.

Given what was said about King's Ultimate Hellfire Wave Motion Cannon by Child Emperor (in the webcomic at least), something that could vaporize ENW could kill it, so its highest possible durability would likely be the vaporization value of its volume, although I'm not sure that's still accurate in the manga given how Saitama just punched it and it died(?). Plus, the vaporization value would be probably be insane at this point.

Enw didn't die, it's gonna reform. Concept of death doesn't reply apply to water lol

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Enw didn't die, it's gonna reform. Concept of death doesn't reply apply to water lol

It can, if the water is alive

I can sense Type 1 Conceptual Manipulation for Saitama for killing EOW in the horizon

 

[Quangotjokes]

It can, if the water is alive

I can sense Type 1 Conceptual Manipulation for Saitama for killing EOW in the horizon

I dont think it's alive in a living sense but more sentient. But even then it's all instinct lol

 

[Phoenks]

By the way for those who are saying Garou doesn't scale to Sage Centipede because it only hurt his head.

• Sage Centipede was able to casually lift Tatsumaki's spear hundreds of meters into the sky by just moving, which is the entire reason he is accepted as 6-C, yet Garou's attacks pushed it back this much.
• Sage Centipede had to regenerate from the damage Garou's attack did to him, and it even considered him to be strong.

Not to mention, unless you think Garou is FAR more durable than he is potent, how do you explain him surviving a barrage of attacks from both SC and EOW?

 

[Muuuuh]

Evil natural Water ate the water Logia, so we don't see it in One Piece

 

[Magmag]

Pretty dumb reasoning from my half but I think bloodlust has to do with being able to detect presence. SC couldn’t detect Saitama and can’t detect EOW anymore, which has to do with bloodlust imo. Either that or Saitama was running at >FTL speeds on water.

 

[GyroNutz]

By the way for those who are saying Garou doesn't scale to Sage Centipede because it only hurt his head.

• Sage Centipede was able to casually lift Tatsumaki's spear hundreds of meters into the sky by just moving, which is the entire reason he is accepted as 6-C, yet Garou's attacks pushed it back this much.
• Sage Centipede had to regenerate from the damage Garou's attack did to him, and it even considered him to be strong.

Not to mention, unless you think Garou is FAR more durable than he is potent, how do you explain him surviving a barrage of attacks from both SC and EOW?

Yeah 6-C current Garou is super consistent right now

 

[SunDaGamer]

We finally back to Tier 6

 

[USklaverei]

Speaking of One Piece, the OPM page needs something like this where we list the calcs that all tiers scale to, put right below the calculations list. I say we make a list like this and put in the next CRT.

Notes​

• The 8-B's like Buggy are scaled to Laboon's Calc (84.623 Tons)
• The 7-C's like Mr. 1 are scaled to Pell's Durability Calc (23.5 Kilotons)
• The lower High 7-C's like Wyper and Skypiea Zoro are scaled to 10x the previous value (235 Kilotons)
• The higher High 7-C's like Enel are scaled to Enel's calc (243 Kilotons)
• The High 7-C+’s like Thriller Bark Usopp and Franky are 2x weaker than Low 7-B’s characters due to having to combined their attacks to do damage to them (650 Kilotons)
• The Low 7-B's like Thriller Bark G2nd Luffy and Diable Jambe Sanji who scale to this (1.3 Megatons)
• The 7-B's like Gladius are scaled to be 1/2 as strong as Pica's Calc (31.07 Megatons)
• The 7-B+'s like Hakuba are scaled to Pica's Calc (62.14 Megatons)
• The 7-A’s like Caesar Clown and Buffalo’s Durability are scaled to 1/3 as durable as the lowest High 7-A’s (333.33 Megatons)
• The 7-A+'s like Overdosed Hody are scaled to be 16x stronger than Pica's Calc (994.24 Megatons)
• The lowest High 7-A's like Beginning of Timeskip Gear 2nd Luffy and Post-Udon Prison Training Base Luffy are upscaled far higher than the highest 7-A+'s (1 Gigaton)
• The highest High 7-A's like Beginning of Timeskip Sanji are scaled to be 2x stronger than the lowest High 7-A's (2 Gigatons)
• The High 7-A+'s like Monster Hody are scaled to be 4x stronger than the highest 7-A+'s (3.98 Gigatons)
• The lowest 6-C's like Beginning of Timeskip Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy and Beginning of Timeskip Zoro are upscaled far higher than the High 7-A+'s (4.3 Gigatons)
• The middle 6-C's like Beginning of Timeskip Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy's Strongest Attacks are scaled to be 4x stronger than the highest High 7-A+'s (15.92 Gigatons)
• The highest 6-C's like Post-Katakuri Fight Gear 4th: Boundman Luffy's Strongest Attacks are scaled to be 4x stronger than the lowest 6-C's (17.2 Gigatons)

The entire OPM page needs updating, lots of old and outdated stuff, complete mess

 

[Ourosboros]

The entire OPM page needs updating, lots of old and outdated stuff, complete mess

Yes, that's true. We could actually make an entire CRT about updating the main page with: adding new profiles, replacing outdated/ugly profile pictures, a revised calc list with notes describing where everyone scales, a revised and expanded description of the verse, separating character and calc pages and whatnot.

 

[M3X_2.0]

You don't need a CRT though, just create a draft in a sandbox and then ask everyone here,

 

[Yoyco]

Just wondering but is ENO/ENW weak in the eyes or nah?

 

[Phoenks]

Just wondering but is ENO/ENW weak in the eyes or nah?

Nope.

 

[Bernkastelll]

 

[Quangotjokes]

I just noticed, EOW looked at Saitama while he was running to punch it.

 

[Ourosboros]

Just wondering but is ENO/ENW weak in the eyes or nah?

"Tch- I thought there would have been some weak spot like usual but... those eyeballs also seem to be made out of liquid..."

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Does ENW even have durability since he’s… literally just water? How does he work?! What is the durability of water?!

Atomic Samurai couldn’t do any damage to a weaker form of ENW, for what that’s worth.

 

[Therefir]

One-Punch Man: Evil Ocean Water

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Calculated the PE of Evil Ocean Water, High 6-A results.

I couldn't get good results with the Ocean Grand Cannon though.

One-Punch Man: Ocean Grand Cannon

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This is what I suggest for Evil Ocean Water's ratings: 6-C (Can hurt Garou with its water jet cannons), High 6-A with Environmental Destruction (Much larger than entire countries)

 

[CheatHydra]

One-Punch Man: Evil Ocean Water

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Calculated the PE of Evil Ocean Water, High 6-A results.

I couldn't get good results with the Ocean Grand Cannon though.

One-Punch Man: Ocean Grand Cannon

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This is what I suggest for Evil Ocean Water's ratings: 6-C (Can hurt Garou with its water jet cannons), High 6-A with Environmental Destruction (Much larger than entire countries)

Very noice

 

[Phoenks]

One-Punch Man: Evil Ocean Water

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Calculated the PE of Evil Ocean Water, High 6-A results.

I couldn't get good results with the Ocean Grand Cannon though.

One-Punch Man: Ocean Grand Cannon

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This is what I suggest for Evil Ocean Water's ratings: 6-C (Can hurt Garou with its water jet cannons), High 6-A with Environmental Destruction (Much larger than entire countries)

Mountain level seems extremely low for what's actually shown :/

 

[Ourosboros]

One-Punch Man: Evil Ocean Water

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Calculated the PE of Evil Ocean Water, High 6-A results.

I couldn't get good results with the Ocean Grand Cannon though.

One-Punch Man: Ocean Grand Cannon

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This is what I suggest for Evil Ocean Water's ratings: 6-C (Can hurt Garou with its water jet cannons), High 6-A with Environmental Destruction (Much larger than entire countries)

RIP Aokiji. It'd take most of his energy to freeze a single ocean grand cannon, if he had the time to do it.

Would it be possible to calc the KE of the water stream for travelling that distance in the transition between panels?

 

[Phoenks]

RIP Aokiji. It'd take most of his energy to freeze a single ocean grand cannon, if he had the time to do it.

Would it be possible to calc the KE of the water stream for travelling that distance in the transition between panels?

I think someone mentioned something about how KE can't be used here because we see the damage created by the attack

 

[Theendzero13]

I think someone mentioned something about how KE can't be used here because we see the damage created by the attack

Yeah , the damage done by the attack will always takes precedence over the KE value, cannot be used here

 

[EmilioRory10]

same energy

 

[LordTracer]

Yeah , the damage done by the attack will always takes precedence over the KE value, cannot be used here

resisting the urge to mention Orochi again

 

[Theendzero13]

resisting the urge to mention Orochi again

Be carefull someone might fell like removing it

 

[M3X_2.0]

resisting the urge to mention Orochi again

Then let's remove Orochi's calc right?

 

[Therefir]

resisting the urge to mention Orochi again

He should go back to High 6-A, we made a mistake.