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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

I'm pretty sure both are roughly on par AP wise, but Gouketsu is much smarter and more skilled
 
I'm pretty sure Goku has other stuff that can help him, and Goku is no slouch in martial arts and arguably is more experienced than Garou. I just need to figure which Goku is the best match up
 
Are stats equalized even if they get stronger? Cause Goku has transformations and Garou has reactive evolution. If Goku is limited to base form or only has the Kaioken, Garou probably wins (unless his reactive evolution is pretty much nullified). He adapted to Gyoro Gyoro's powers fast enough to go from being completely immobilized to being able to fight like nothing was restraining him in probably under a minute of being under her effects (of course, Gyoro Gyoro was still holding back, but it's nonetheless very impressive adaptation). Against Orochi, he went from being barely able to react to his horns to making Orochi actually fight back against him (we even see him actively speeding up while dodging) in also under a minute. And against Darkshine, he went from getting stomped and nearly killed by Darkshine to matching his AP and being capable of causing considerable harm to him in just the span of the fight. When he started using a barrage of attacks on him, Darkshine was waiting for him to stop, but Garou literally kept going and improving during that time that he began to surpass Darkshine while literally throwing non-stop attacks at him. Also keep in mind that, just mere days earlier, Garou hurt his own hand punching base Bug God, whereas Darkshine completely obliterated transformed Bug God's upper body with a basic attack, yet he was able to close that gap in just 1 near death experience and 3 fights, while having practically zero rest at all in between.

On top of all that, Garou has things besides reactive evolution. He's debatably as skilled as Goku, has impressive enough regen for it to play a decent factor in the battle, instinctive reactions (likely not on par with Ultra Instinct but still impressive in its own right), analytical prediction (also likely not on par with Goku's but still impressive), and could probably copy Goku's fighting styles if he wanted to.

Still, depending on which Goku it is and what abilities he's allowed to use, it could very well lean in his favor.
 
I'm definitely not be using CC Goku as that one definitely has stomps. I'll place them as stats equalized in base probably.
 
CC Goku? You mean the DBS one from Heroes? You should probably just go for an early Z or late Dragon Ball Goku. Anyways, I think the most noteworthy abilities he has would be flight, teleportation, energy projection, Ki sensing, supernatural willpower (albeit not nearly on the level of Garou's tenacity of course), a variety of things done through skill and honed senses similar to Garou's (analytical prediction, pressure point strikes, etc.), Solar Flare, telepathy, reactive evolution (not on par with Garou's but still impressive in its own right).
 
Actually, even with Garou's reactive evolution, I feel like all of Goku's other advantages just give him a huge edge, even if he's limited to base form.
 
Uh.. Goku would still wreck garou... Goku still has insane cqc skill and experience. If he wanted to, he could just copy WSRSF and WICF. Goku used the learned the kamehameha after seeing it once, mind you he only practiced for like 10 seconds.
 
I'm not sure who'd win, but Goku has light-based blinding attacks, teleportation, non-human fighting styles and the ability to trap beings in containers with the Mafuba. At the very least, he has some major advantages that Garou probably couldn't counter very well.
 
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Also just a funny thought, but Saitama would lose against a lot of OPM characters in a stats equalized match
 
ByAsura said:
I'm not sure who'd win, but Goku has light-based blinding attacks, teleportation, non-human fighting styles and the ability to trap beings in containers with the Mafuba. At the very least, he has some major advantages that Garou probably couldn't counter very well.
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Yeah, maybe it's best to put that on hold until Garou gets his P&A upgrade

At the same time it'd be hilarious to do stats equalized for Saitama vs Krillin or Android 18 vs Genos
 
Goku vs. Garou stats equalised? Here are my thoughts

If they start in their most powerful forms, Monster Form for Garou and Perfected Ultra Instinct for Goku, while their stats being equalised, then Garou isn't beating Goku due to his dodging and thoughtless movements at first.

Goku's Ultra Instinct exploits openings and counters and then hits vital points iirc, but Garou's immense endurance and pretty good regeneration should cover that. He isn't gonna be taken down for that.

What makes Garou OP is that it is his adaptation ability and reactive power level, similar to that of Broly in DBS. He can adapt to Goku just like Jiren did. The longer the fight lasts, the higher chances Garou will win as he gets accustomed to Goku, become stronger and faster. Goku can also adapt while in UI iirc, but apparently, it is not in the same extent as Garou's. Considering Goku has a limited time in his Ultra Instinct State, and the accuracy of UI will also decrease over time. I think I will side with Garou here.

Edit: Or Goku just hakais GG Garou if he is bloodlusted, but if it is in character, I suppose that he will likely not do that.
 
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Have question, is Marshal Gorilla suppose to still be High 8-C? It states he scales to Kombu Infinity who is now 9-A, is there an on going revision or something?
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I don't think deflecting lightning is anywhere close to NPI
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I mean shattering apart lightning like this with a sword doesn't really seem like something you can do to a plasma since you can't physically interact with it like a solid and NPI stands for Non-Physical Interaction so what exactly would it be? Lightning manip limited to slicing apart lightning?
 
probably just his performance against the CFDSF which was preformed by Bang and Bomb where he literally shook it off while Darkshine was getting worried over Garou's increasing strength mid CFDSF pre spiral form (although it's debatable as to whether he became "spiral garou" post tackle or post bazooka, I personally haven't thought about comparing Darkshine and Rover but doubt either are far higher than the other

From a logical perspective you could try and say that Rovers thick fur layer is an additional blunt for protection for Rover since that lies ontop of his muscles while Darkshine only has his skin
 
It would be interesting to see Darkshine's reaction to getting hit by the same punch Saitama gave Rover since I doubt either are heavily apart durability wise and the attack only made Rover bleed from his mouth a little.
 
I don't think you should call Rover superior to Darkshine for that. DS completely shattered Garou's ribcage with a tackle that he couldn't repel with Bang and Bomb's combined technique, despite having grown massively after fighting Psykos' puppet and Orochi.

However, Bang did deal some damage to DS, but couldn't injure Rover at all, just make him subservient alongside Bomb's attack. So I'd say that DS isn't vastly inferior to Rover, but is definitely less durable.
 
Really depends on where Bomb and Bang scale relative to Garou. If Garou's CFDSF = Bang + Bomb's CFDSF, then they're pretty close. If Bang + Bomb's CFDSF > Spiral Garou's CFDSF, then Rover should be considerably more durable than Darkshine.
 
If Bang matches Garou in this chapter, then DS is definitely far inferior to Rover.
 
ByAsura said:
I don't think you should call Rover superior to Darkshine for that. DS completely shattered Garou's ribcage with a tackle that he couldn't repel with Bang and Bomb's combined technique, despite having grown massively after fighting Psykos' puppet and Orochi.

However, Bang did deal some damage to DS, but couldn't injure Rover at all, just make him subservient alongside Bomb's attack. So I'd say that DS isn't vastly inferior to Rover, but is definitely less durable.
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my point was that Garou's simultaneous usage of Bang and Bombs techniques was inferior to Bang and Bomb's usage of their own techniques together which meant that Rover took a stronger (not really definitive though) CFDSF compared to Darkshine and while both of them weren't shown any physical damage, one of them shook themselves as if they were wet while the other briefly thought of defeat.
 
Speaking of Darkshine, I've actually been meaning to get some accurate translations for these scans because there's so many variations. In the webcomic, I believe DS says he didn't take a significant amount of damage, but doesn't say he took light injuries.
 
SemiRaedi said:
my point was that Garou's simultaneous usage of Bang and Bombs techniques was inferior to Bang and Bomb's usage of their own techniques together which meant that Rover took a stronger (not really definitive though) CFDSF compared to Darkshine and while both of them weren't shown any physical damage, one of them shook themselves as if they were wet while the other briefly thought of defeat.
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We don't know if Garou's CFDSF was inferior to Bang+Bomb's yet. Next chapter (or whenever Bang and Garou fight) will shine light on that- and perhaps make the difference between the two techniques quantifiable.
 
ByAsura said:
Speaking of Darkshine, I've actually been meaning to get some accurate translations for these scans because there's so many variations. In the webcomic, I believe DS says he didn't take a significant amount of damage, but doesn't say he took light injuries.
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Darkshine also said that even he doesn’t know how to harm himself.
 
Would we be able to get GPE out of Psykorochi? I'm curious to see what result it might yield or whether it'd be higher than High 6-C, tho tbh I'm expecting something around High 7-A.
 
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