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I can see your point here, then, although I'll remain a firm believer that . Tbh, this makes me think that there's even less point to keeping an Armoured Boros key.

Ok, then.

Yes, that's anime only. The clashes happened after he lost his arm, not during, so I think you should check out chapters 34-36 again. I mean, they could just not be wasting time by showing an extended fight scene where Saitama doesn't land a significant hit, but it doesn't matter anyway since we already agreed to drop this.
 
I haven't read it all, but Saitama's normal punches were varying on strength against Boros going by pillar destruction.
 
Also new Atomic Sandbag memes from last chapter.


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Also new Atomic Sandbag memes from last chapter.


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Heresy
 
would Tatsu sensing the dimensional travel mean anything abilities wise? Or is it just another case of extra sensory perception?
 
Also is is Orochi's lightning being treated similar to real lightning? Iaian did mention that Atomic didn't teach him how to cut water yet so does that mean Atomic can slash intangible stuff (limited to lightning and possibly water)?
 
@SemiRaedi Regarding your second post. No, it isn't treated as similar to real lightning due to lacking proof to back up. Both Atomic Samurai and Iaian were powerless against Evil Natural Water and were saved by Darkshine. Being able to cut water and lightning doesn't mean he can cut intangible beings such as ghosts or so.
 
@SemiRaedi Regarding your second post. No, it isn't treated as similar to real lightning due to lacking proof to back up. Both Atomic Samurai and Iaian were powerless against Evil Natural Water and were saved by Darkshine. Being able to cut water and lightning doesn't mean he can cut intangible beings such as ghosts or so.
Darth's calc treats Orochi's beams as real lightning afaik. FF's hair seems to indicate that.
 
would Tatsu sensing the dimensional travel mean anything abilities wise? Or is it just another case of extra sensory perception?
I think we would just list it as "able to detect interdimensional travel", it's not normally an ability that comes with extrasensory perception.
Also is is Orochi's lightning being treated similar to real lightning? Iaian did mention that Atomic didn't teach him how to cut water yet so does that mean Atomic can slash intangible stuff (limited to lightning and possibly water)?
I would be in favor of it being treated as lightning, given that it's showing multiple properties relatively unique to lightning (like the static charge).
 
I see. In the past, it wasn't. But now if they are fine with treating it as real lighting, then no issues I guess.
It's true, we're treating it differently this time because of a few points that point to real lightning (or something very close to it). I'm not sure if new info was brought up or the people who were previously opposed aren't active, but since I haven't heard anything against the new reasons.
 
@SemiRaedi Regarding your second post. No, it isn't treated as similar to real lightning due to lacking proof to back up. Both Atomic Samurai and Iaian were powerless against Evil Natural Water and were saved by Darkshine. Being able to cut water and lightning doesn't mean he can cut intangible beings such as ghosts or so.
when I was talking about intangible stuff I meant lightning and water since you can't really interact with plasmas and liquids tangibly in the same way you can with solids despite AS doing something similar kinda like how haki users can touch people who go intangible via fire but not towards those who go intangible via NEP. I also for some reason forgot AS was getting beat up by ENW for some reason lol.
 
would Tatsu sensing the dimensional travel mean anything abilities wise? Or is it just another case of extra sensory perception?
Just extrasensory perception

Also is is Orochi's lightning being treated similar to real lightning? Iaian did mention that Atomic didn't teach him how to cut water yet so does that mean Atomic can slash intangible stuff (limited to lightning and possibly water)?
I'm pretty sure we agreed it's more electricity than lightning
 
I could've sworn it was already part of her extrasensory perception. Eh, I'll add it to the CRT
 
It is rumored that Blast is supposedly the greatest psychic in the world, and his laser eyes (also rumored but not confirmed) could be similar to Psykos' ability to do the same, which is presumably done through her esper powers. I wonder if dimensional travel is an application of strong esper abilities, which would explain why Tatsumaki can sense it and understand what it is (although probably can't do it herself). Maybe Blast is actually just a ridiculously strong esper.
 
I kinda hope espers isn't his only abilities, it'd be pretty lame for him to just be a glass cannon ngl
 
I'm not saying glass cannon. Physically I bet he's a god tier, and on top of that he might have esper powers that dwarf even Tatsumaki's.
 
I hope he's like the opposite of saitama and is like a cyborg esper ninja with a shitton of powers and versatility
 
I'm pretty sure both are roughly on par AP wise, but Gouketsu is much smarter and more skilled
 
I'm pretty sure Goku has other stuff that can help him, and Goku is no slouch in martial arts and arguably is more experienced than Garou. I just need to figure which Goku is the best match up
 
Are stats equalized even if they get stronger? Cause Goku has transformations and Garou has reactive evolution. If Goku is limited to base form or only has the Kaioken, Garou probably wins (unless his reactive evolution is pretty much nullified). He adapted to Gyoro Gyoro's powers fast enough to go from being completely immobilized to being able to fight like nothing was restraining him in probably under a minute of being under her effects (of course, Gyoro Gyoro was still holding back, but it's nonetheless very impressive adaptation). Against Orochi, he went from being barely able to react to his horns to making Orochi actually fight back against him (we even see him actively speeding up while dodging) in also under a minute. And against Darkshine, he went from getting stomped and nearly killed by Darkshine to matching his AP and being capable of causing considerable harm to him in just the span of the fight. When he started using a barrage of attacks on him, Darkshine was waiting for him to stop, but Garou literally kept going and improving during that time that he began to surpass Darkshine while literally throwing non-stop attacks at him. Also keep in mind that, just mere days earlier, Garou hurt his own hand punching base Bug God, whereas Darkshine completely obliterated transformed Bug God's upper body with a basic attack, yet he was able to close that gap in just 1 near death experience and 3 fights, while having practically zero rest at all in between.

On top of all that, Garou has things besides reactive evolution. He's debatably as skilled as Goku, has impressive enough regen for it to play a decent factor in the battle, instinctive reactions (likely not on par with Ultra Instinct but still impressive in its own right), analytical prediction (also likely not on par with Goku's but still impressive), and could probably copy Goku's fighting styles if he wanted to.

Still, depending on which Goku it is and what abilities he's allowed to use, it could very well lean in his favor.
 
I'm definitely not be using CC Goku as that one definitely has stomps. I'll place them as stats equalized in base probably.
 
CC Goku? You mean the DBS one from Heroes? You should probably just go for an early Z or late Dragon Ball Goku. Anyways, I think the most noteworthy abilities he has would be flight, teleportation, energy projection, Ki sensing, supernatural willpower (albeit not nearly on the level of Garou's tenacity of course), a variety of things done through skill and honed senses similar to Garou's (analytical prediction, pressure point strikes, etc.), Solar Flare, telepathy, reactive evolution (not on par with Garou's but still impressive in its own right).
 
Actually, even with Garou's reactive evolution, I feel like all of Goku's other advantages just give him a huge edge, even if he's limited to base form.
 
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