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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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wait did he even know what lacerate was when he was rank 1, was there a statement that said he had every move or something? And considering his personality would he go for lacerate if he has it (I'm assuming the key means he has the same mentality as chap 1 HCLW)?
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PPP surviving Garou and staying conscious is one of the reasons I put PPP a tier above TTM, I think TTM would have died a couple times over after taking those strikes. If HH Garou could KO TTM, that version of Garou is definitely killing him with a barrage. Only way around that is if TTM went up a couple tiers in the past week, but I see no evidence of Zenkai boosts for TTM unlike with PPP, who was already consistently improving and has recently gotten a Zenkai or two. So TTM is high demon for me, I don't see him beating the likes of Bakuzan. PPP on the other hand, I think could beat Gums.
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If it was BoS rank 1 then no, If it's VS Light rank 1 then ye
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How much lifting strength would it take to do something like swim through solid concrete/rubble effortlessly? I'd imagine they'd at least need the strength to displace the equivalent of their own volume in rubble for that to work.
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Just looked at this image again, and I noticed that Bug God has one stat that's far above the rest in his graph. We can obviously assume this is durability. And we see that it's listed even higher than FU's and Nyan's. On top of the feats he has, the other Dragon level implications and him clearly at least being the pinnacle of Demon. I definitely think it's safe to say that he has Dragon level durability with this added to the mix, assuming we take the graph stats completely literally. And that's for base Bug God, keep in mind.
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I don't think that's a supposed to be a ranking. And not only that, Bug God being higher in durability than Black Sperm or Glory Glory, who are both glass cannons, does not seem impressive at all.
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The positions of them is not supposed to be in order most likely, but I'm not referring to that. To the right, you can see stats for each of them laid out in a graph format. It's very logical to assume that the stat Bug God is highest in would be his durability. Also not talking about BS or Gyoro Gyoro. I'm talking about Nyan and FU.
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That's interesting.
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If Murata ever streams again we need someone here to ask him at what point Garou surpasses Gouketsu
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I dunno if asking someone something like that is allowed on the wiki (Because of the whole stupid Ben 10 situation) tho I guess a stream would be more legit then some random social media question.
When was the last time he streamed?
When was the last time he streamed?
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2018 I believe.
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Do you mean at which point he is more skilled than him or has more raw strength than him? Or both?
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As in when can Garou beat Gouketsu.
Personally I think a better question is how strong exactly is he, or rather, how did he compare to the other Cadre's?
Also when does Murata stream? I'm guessing just when he feels like it, but is it often?
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Considering the last time he did so was 2018, unlikely we'll get another stream soon.
And even if Garou did surpass Gouketsu, it'll only back the possibly 7-A rating
As for whether Garou is stronger, I'm pretty sure going by the 7-A scaling chain, Garou should be much stronger than Gouketsu by this point. That and Garou has shown far greater skill feats than Gouketsu
And even if Garou did surpass Gouketsu, it'll only back the possibly 7-A rating
As for whether Garou is stronger, I'm pretty sure going by the 7-A scaling chain, Garou should be much stronger than Gouketsu by this point. That and Garou has shown far greater skill feats than Gouketsu
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nvm I figured it out
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Gonna hack One's Twitter to get 5-B Saitama so we can finally have Saitama vs Krillin. The battle of the baldies that have blond Android companions
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Go to the third icon on the toool bar, click it, press the symbol that looks like this
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I think the last time Murata streamed was whenever the original Phoenix Man fight was going on, so probably late 2019?
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Wow. I never saw the connection there lmao
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Yeah scaling wise Garou could and likely does surpass Gouketsu by a significant margin. Although I doubt Gouketsu showed much of what he has to offer. My headcanon is that Gouketsu is physically around the level of Darkshine, maybe even stronger, with a very high amount of skill, and a massive height advantage over most characters on top of that, his intelligence isn't too low for Monster standards, either, although he seems pretty overconfident, naturally. My headcanon is also that Garou surpassed Gouketsu during his fight with Darkshine (during the latter end of it). Garou would definitely beat him if they fought through reactive evolution though. He was constantly getting stronger throughout the entire MA arc up to this point, and probably won't stop until Saitama beats him, Garou is really broken just from reactive evolution and his endurance, not to mention that he can adapt to things like telekinesis very quickly, going from being completely immobilized to being capable of moving and attacking with no issue in under a minute with Gyoro Gyoro (although, granted, Gyoro Gyoro clearly wasn't expending much effort, but it's impressive regardless). Garou is just insane.
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I feel like when Garou has Darkshine think of the word "losing" is the moment where he should surpass Gouketsu.
So like around when he learns the Cross fang dragonslayer fist on his own.
So like around when he learns the Cross fang dragonslayer fist on his own.
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I feel like Gouketsu would actually give Darkshine that feel good victory he had been looking for.
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CM CK was able to give Darkshine a good fight, although he was hoping Genos had even stronger Monster's, so Darkshine likely wasn't pushed into that much of a corner, he just need to go all out to win. He probably didn't get hurt either.
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Genos did say Gouketsu was the strongest monster he'd faced, despite having accurate data on CM CK, and outright compared him to Saitama.
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no
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We don't take everything from him seriously, especially if he wasn't sure how strong the S-Class were at that point. Genos later believed that Tatsumaki or King alone is probably enough to solo the Monster Association, despite he previously reassured himself that the combined of Tatsumaki, King and even Saitama working together were needed to beat Gouketsu.
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Technically Tatsumaki can solo the MA.
Also that was before she did more digging and met EC
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From memory I wanna say his power basis was
- Saitama: Easily steamrolled his VGS system, which included every monster Genos fought up to that point and topping out at Carnage Kabuto
- PPP: I honestly don't know if Genos has ever seen Prisoner fight pre-MA arc. I guess maybe his showing against Mel?
- Atomic Samurai: Slicing apart Melzargard
- Flashy Flash: He wouldn't have any real knowledge on
- Silverfang: Destroying some meteors and damaging Melzargard
- Tornado: He saw her rock throws, but I don't know if he saw her bullet catch. I would say he thought she was the one who fell the Alien Ship but later on Saitama said he did so
- King: Most he would know about are blurbs from the HA about either Vaccine Man or Beefcake
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In this case, it's a comparison between an enemy that one-shot him and someone he has data on after they fought. Those ones would be a lot more accurate than his knowledge of the S-Classes, unless you also want to say the Carnage vs Darkshine simulation isn't credible.
In the most recent chapter, Genos uses her casual attack against him as a reference.
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I guess according to Genos, at least we can reasonably assume that Gouketsu is much stronger than CK and possibly Darkshine since he already has knowledge of their strength due to the VGS and saw Saitama outright one-shot the bug, but not sure if we can compare Gouketsu to Saitama in any possible way, plus the meteor was destroyed by him.
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No one scales to Saitama, although occasionally you can scale certain characters with god tier durability in a sense via using his normal punches as a reference when someone tanks or at least survives them.
But yes, I didn't consider that before, this can easily place Gouketsu well above CK and potentially even stronger than Darkshine, which really paints Gouketsu himself in a new light (then again that casual attack that he used to intimidate Bakuzan was presumably enough to kill Bakuzan, who's a Low-Dragon, so I guess it's not too shocking).
But yes, I didn't consider that before, this can easily place Gouketsu well above CK and potentially even stronger than Darkshine, which really paints Gouketsu himself in a new light (then again that casual attack that he used to intimidate Bakuzan was presumably enough to kill Bakuzan, who's a Low-Dragon, so I guess it's not too shocking).
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We don't do that either
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Armored Boros doesn't automatically have higher durability than anyone who hasn't taken a normal punch? Logical.
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Well yeah, we've all went through this before have we not?
