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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

My june 2021 list, made with the benefit of hindsight and still including some controversial picks. Especially the stuff with Bang, Atomic and Darkshine right now who are all hot topics. Get ready for a bible.

Tier 0 - Competitive with God Level threats (God level)
1. King: Agree with 2019 Zhoniin. His meta-luck-reality-manipulation may not be something we can put on a vswiki profile, but he just can't lose.
2. Blast: Superior to Tatsumaki, who is already high into the dragon or above category and arguably god level in her own right. Faster than Flashy Flash, can travel across dimensions, the HA's last reserve who's ready to take on disaster level God threats. Currently on a crusade against "God", who is obviously going to be the first (and maybe only) God level threat. Blatantly reserved for God level threats.
Tier 1 - Easily defeat All Dragon Level Threats (Above Dragon level)
3. Tatsumaki: Defeated Psykorochi, an entity that could render the planet uninhabitable with a few earth shattering attacks. Would solo the MA if it weren't for being weakened - with God's intervention, judging by the random, not-so-random moon shot. Stated to be able easily lift Z city, which I believe. Would even be competitive with Boros and Awakened Garou- until AG gets a massive buff that clearly establishes he is above here.
4. Metal Knight: Pretty featless right now, but I bet he's got technology superior to Dr. Kuseno, so he could somehow replicate 10 second Genos multi-continental power and probably on greater (or at least more consistent) scale. Has Boros's ship, at least a 100 low 7-B/High 7-C battle drones, stuff that's surely superior to Brave Giant.
4.5 10 second Genos: Okay, so Genos could defeat 99% of all dragon level threats with 10 seconds mode, rare exceptions being a fully split BS covering like a continent or Flashy Flash (maybe). So Genos as a whole should technically be at this level, but I want to try and scale Genos's 10 second and "normal" mode separately. Specially cause I think future Genos upgrades won't be above dragon to the extent 10 second genos is.
Tier 2 - Defeat low and mid dragons, competitive with High Dragons (High Dragon level)
5. Bang: Has fought Rover, EC, Melzalgald and is going to fight a version of Garou that should be somewhat stronger than spiral Garou. Rover and EC are high dragons I would say, current Garou is at least a high dragon. Bang is at least around Darkshine's level, may be higher depending on events in this next chapter.
6. Darkshine: Mid-diff defeated Carnage Mode Kabuto (took 15 minutes but wanted stronger opponents), casually pulverized transformed Bug God, dispersed ENW without too much difficulty, helped Garou to evolve into his current stage, stated by Black Sperm to be able to potentially beat a fully split BS in a battle of attrition (insane). Would tank the atomic slash if the FU fight is any indication.
7. Flashy Flash: One-shot the ninja bros at once and is pretty fast. Would have killed the Garou that fought Darkshine.
8. Atomic Samurai: Apparently has alot of bad match-ups: Black Sperm, ENW, Melzagald, Vomited Fuhrer Ugly... and he keeps getting them. So many bad match-ups actually, that you can make the case he's mid dragon because he loses so many fights. But those grounds for slander aside- he was stated to be able to kill the Garou that Darkshine first fought, sliced up Psykos's beams, can cut lightning. Might actually have a good time against dragons like Rover and Homeless.
9. Drive Knight: Outclassed Nyan in all categories, while also ambiguously stating Nyan would be difficult to defeat in a frontal attack without prep. I would say Drive Knight is normally mid dragon given that, but his performance against Psykos proves to me that he can perform at the high dragon level if he's willing to spend all his energy. (Possibly has a king form that might Above Dragon IDK.)
Tier 3 - Defeat Low dragons, competitive with mid dragons (Mid Dragon level)
10. "normal" Genos: I consider his base and DK to be close in tier, but DK has a few advantages over "normal" Genos that allow him to perform better against high dragons. Not quite as versatile as Drive Knight, did not have quite as impressive of a showing against Psykosjet as Drive Knight either- so I don't think he can push himself to really compete with high dragons without dipping into some of the 10 seconds power.
11. Child Emperor: mid dragon with Brave Giant. Still versatile without it
Tier 4 - Competitive with Low Dragons (Low Dragon level)
12. Puri Puri: PPP was demolishing mid-demons before he got his regen, bristle armor buff and vibration angel buff. Those buffs take him from a high demon level to an ambiguous dragon level, where he can survive a barrage from a bloodlusted mid-dragon Garou and do damage to Psykosjet.
13. Pig God: Pig God has shown himself to be just below Gums's level, he's escaped from his mouth like twice on his own, escaped from Gums, interrupted Gums twice with a tackle. Gums is the least impressive cadre, but a dragon nonetheless. Probably Above Dragon with his secret power.
14. Zombieman: Hasn't show himself to be capable of "defeating Dragons" but can survive attacks from dragons long enough to get stealth victories. In terms of raw power with weapons, he's a mid-demon maybe, but his regen keeps in him in fights with low, mid and even high dragons.
15. Watchdog Man: Beating HHG doesn't make him anything more than an "above demon", but I think Zhoniin is right when he says that Watchdog Man will end up being dragon level via defending Q-city.
16. Metal Bat: Metal Bat is in tier 5 before he gets pumped up, but under the right circumstances he will become strong enough to one-shot HHG and stop EC's charge, both dragon level feats.
Tier 5 - Defeat mid demons, competitive with high demons (high demon)
17. Base Amai Mask: Man, I don't want to slander Amai but Murata clearly hates him. Amai got ripped in two by Fuhrer, seemed comparable in speed to the disciples, took superficial damage from DO-S (a mid-demon imo) and hasn't actually do anything of consequence against a dragon. Webcomic amai was definitely a mid-dragon but manga Amai Mask's stock can only go back up from now. I expect he will be low dragon in base and high dragon in monster form when all is said and done.
18. Tanktop Master: TTM is in a tier of his own, but not in a good way. He lost to HHG and has got a couple good LS feats, but nothing that would guarantee a victory over the weakest dragons, like Bakuzan. The other heroes that were/are kinda in tier 5 have extenuating circumstances like Metal Bat or Watchdog Man or have transcended this tier like PPP.
 
Yeah. PPP was demolished by Garou and was left barely able to move. Likely he didn't die instantly due to his bristle armor

Psykojet is likely a glass cannon considering how inconsistent she is in durability.

And I think Matthew already outlined the problems with scaling PPP to Psykojet
 
Don't we do that with other characters? I'm pretty sure the reason Zombie man has unknown durability is because he's inconsistent
 
If that’s the reason, his profile definitely doesn’t suggest that.

And Psykosjet’s durability doesn’t seem that inconsistent tbh.
 
I'd say yeah, but probably doesn't matter much as Nyan is getting upgraded to 7-B due to Genos tanking a hit from Black Sperm. Psykos' beams are calced at only Low 7-B
 
I dunno if that would really count as damaging it, since he had to try to destroy it from the inside. His durability should scale though, since Bishop DK could harm Psykos.

Although speaking of Psykos’ beams, they should get their ‘possibly 7-A’ back since they can harm Genos, who tanked a hit from Black Sperm last chapter. Really she never should’ve lost the ‘possibly 7-A,’ because it makes no sense for her fused state to be weaker than her base form.
 
I don't really see why Nyan would be City level, tbh. He's a Dragon level, but his overall power and standing outside of that aren't well defined.

@Tracer He also withstood a hit with practically no damage. Also, it pierced through to the outside.
 
I think the problem for the possibly 7-A scaling was because of PPP, who I think was contradictory as he was previously bodied by Garou, who at the time hadn't reached that level of strength yet? I'll look for the thread

Also using the current 7-B scaling chain. My god, EC is weak as hell
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I think the problem for the possibly 7-A scaling was because of PPP, who I think was contradictory as he was previously bodied by Garou, who at the time hadn't reached that level of strength yet?
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That would just mean PPP is an outlier tho. And the only people that actually gain ‘possibly 7-A’ from Psykosjet having it are Genos and Drive Knight (and by extension, the Promoted Rook).
 
Technically it’s not featless, since Psykosjet clashed with the Promoted Rook. If her durability was far lesser than her AP, wouldn’t her body have been demolished by that impact?
 
I don’t think just having a weapon would be able to protect you if you’re getting hit with something far above your own durability. Logically, your arms would break from that impact.

Also the Genos thing isn’t really a contradiction imo, he and Drive Knight are both able to damage and clash with Psykos even though she clashed with their fused form.
 
They'd need to be leagues above that character in the first place to break their arms, not just even or quite a lot stronger.

That's completely the point. She doesn't scale to the Promoted Rook because a less powerful version of both characters could harm her.

By the way, I could see her scaling to Genos and co., but the point I was trying to make is that PPP's combo was against a bisected Psykojet. Speaking of which, PJ >>> DSK in durability.
 
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LordTracer said:
Technically it’s not featless, since Psykosjet clashed with the Promoted Rook. If her durability was far lesser than her AP, wouldn’t her body have been demolished by that impact?
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True, but then again, we have characters like melzalgald and black sperm
 
The most we can go off of are some assumptions and threats. Amazing Mask does state that he's stronger than Atomic Samurai but that's yet to be proven in the manga. I don't really think he's truly stronger tho as Black Sperm just happens to be the natural counter to Atomic Samurai, but he is on the same level given Atomic does respect him

IIRC, I think Psykos was panicking when she heard amai talking to switch but I'll have to reread that chapter as I think I'm remembering it wrong, and amai was confident in saying he could beat DSM but again, I need to reread that.

However, all of these are still fairly vague and could be written of as overconfidence, they should just be placed under likely far higher
 
Even an individual BS could heavily wound AS with one punch and knock out an off-guard Bomb, if you're referring to the webcomic in that last part of the first sentence. Sweet Mask was fighting on par with one of those huge ones.
 
Scaling anyone to Black Sperm isn't a good idea honestly. He varies to much and has no durability feats.
 
I think it should be ok for durability, though. A single BS varies because it can have a number of cells packed in, which seems to be 100 or so when divided a lot, while the dog-sized clone is a single cell.
 
Just wondering, but what if someone matches black sperm in a fight, like they do fist clash like Dark shine and Garou and neither takes damage. Would that character scale?
 
ByAsura said:
That's completely the point. She doesn't scale to the Promoted Rook because a less powerful version of both characters could harm her.
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But she clearly does scale, she had a prolonged clash with it. It’s possible to scale to something stronger than yourself and vice verse.
 
HCLW is my favorite webtoon atm
the match could be fair since a lot of his stuff is just elemental attacks, but too bad his bread and butter Lacerate counts as EE according to newer chapters
Edit: oh yes, and his HP can't go down when he has his armor on, and it can't be bypassed by poison or dura neg and only Existance erasure could hurt him.
 
Epiccheev said:
HCLW is my favorite webtoon atm
the match could be fair since a lot of his stuff is just elemental attacks, but too bad his bread and butter Lacerate counts as EE according to newer chapters
Edit: oh yes, and his HP can't go down when he has his armor on, and it can't be bypassed by poison or dura neg and only Existance erasure could hurt him.
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his armour apparently has low 2-C physical resistence since his armour has immunity to all physical attacks and that means that it would scale to the strongest being Zero who needed to remove HCLW's armour despite being able to create and destroy universes
 
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