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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

LordTracer said:
Uh, that’d be an AP stomp. A major AP stomp.
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Wait, how big of a difference does it have to be to be an AP stomp? Using the current scaling, it'd be at most a 4.5x difference, likely much less than that. Plus, Showerhead's durability scales higher than his AP and Dabi has no durability feats outside of his fire resistance
 
A 4.5x difference is absolutely massive, like if Dabi lands a single attack, that’s GG. Although I suppose you could say the same for Showerhead since Dabi’s durability is Unknown. It was High 8-C a while ago, hm
 
LordTracer said:
A 4.5x difference is absolutely massive, like if Dabi lands a single attack, that’s GG. Although I suppose you could say the same for Showerhead since Dabi’s durability is Unknown. It was High 8-C a while ago, hm
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But it's not a 4.5X difference unless I misunderstand how we do upscaling in vs matches. His AP at least > 34.98 tons and his durability >> 34.98 tons, so it should be more like a 3, 2 or 1.5X difference. If we say he upscales considerably, would we just use a 1.5X multiplier to quantify that? If we do, then it's a 3X AP difference and Showerhead's durability is better than that, so he's not getting one-shot or anything
 
The 1.5x multiplier isn’t a thing anymore, that got negged with the upscaling thread.
 
So upscaling is no more? I thought they agreed to something like a case by case basis or 1.3x?
 
There’s just not a specific amount necessary to upscale (which is soooooooo helpful smh)
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
So if there is no standard, then how do we do a case by case basis?
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Good question

It’s basically just, use your better judgement and whatever makes sense. So like, Orochi can keep his High 7-A because the difference from Gouketsu’s calc is pretty small and we know for a fact Orochi >>>>> Gouketsu.
 
LordTracer said:
It’s basically just, use your better judgement and whatever makes sense. So like, Orochi can keep his High 7-A because the difference from Gouketsu’s calc is pretty small and we know for a fact Orochi >>>>> Gouketsu.
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Ok, that makes sense

Watch as I downgrade the TSB
 
We need to choose an end for the Homeless Emperor crater feat now- surely we would have seen an image of the crater by now if Murata hadn't forgotten about it.
 
Eh, the more I think about it, I doubt we'll see the crater again. If the sizes are really inconsistent, I think my suggestion of "Tier to Tier" is the most suitable even if it's inconvenient
 
Also now that Fubuki is fighting garou already, I doubt we'll have the Psykos vs Fubuki fight and the epic Garou entrance afterwards.

Like Garou just coming out and saying "I am that dreaded future, threat level God", after. Psykos being defeated and Fubuki seemingly triumphant, I dunno, the manga doesn't quite have the same impact.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Eh, the more I think about it, I doubt we'll see the crater again. If the sizes are really inconsistent, I think my suggestion of "Tier to Tier" is the most suitable even if it's inconvenient
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We shouldn't give up on finding an end because of an internal disagreement, that'd go against several scaling principles. If this is really such an issue, I will calc it myself only using the panel where we find the length to find the height.

That said, I can readily post that calculation if I can get one question answered- why did we use vaporization for Homeless Emperor? It looks like vaporization to me, but I want to prepared for CGM questioning on the matter if they want to say it's pulverization.
 
Why pulverization tho? I don't see why it would'nt be anything other than vaporization as HE's attacks are energy. Pulv doesn't makes sense in the case of HE
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Why pulverization tho? I don't see why it would'nt be anything other than vaporization as HE's attacks are energy. Pulv doesn't makes sense in the case of HE
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I don't know, didn't CGMs recommend using pulverization for Vaccine Man's energy attacks as well?
 
Except why? Why would an energy ball pulverise something? Plus, the crater looks more like vaporisation.
 
Ah, Ugarik said that because in that particular explosion it wasn't clear if we were looking at debris and we never see the crater. Vaporization is much clearer here.
 
Vaccine Man's attacks are stated to pulverize things and HE's are made from the same energy so it should also be pulverization.
 
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The cut Nichirin made is a bit bigger than we thought.
Not that it's enough to give him a higher rating than he's likely to get but still.
 
Actually you're right. I don't think it's ever stated that the type of energy Vaccine man uses is the same as HE, but rather VM is only the same as Choze
 
Can someone provide the scans for that statement? I think it was Murata who touched on the matter.

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Murata: The energy ball that Choze fired is the same as Vaccine Man. For those who read the web comic should also notice that it is the same thing with Homeless Emperor as well.

Yes, they are the same.
 
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ImposingTiger said:
Can someone provide the scans for that statement? I think it was Murata who touched on the matter.

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Murata: The energy ball that Choze fired is the same as Vaccine Man. For those who read the web comic should also notice that it is the same thing with Homeless Emperor as well.

Yes, they are the same.
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is it in the interviews? I can go look for it on the opm fandom so that we have scans to back it up
 
Ok. So with all of this my conclusion are:

1- HE's feat should be calced with pulverization, as it is stated to be made from the same energy as VM.

2- VM's durability doesn't scale to his energy balls' AP because he is stated to gather energy from the earth and not to produce it by himself.
 
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