STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[karo_senpaii]

His sneeze slow af tho

nuh uhhh , he has immeasurable speed sneeze

 

[azizbengibi]

no first of all the ability to impose your will over reality itself and being able to program and reprogram anything in creation, even humans is the issue. Also not only is shibai much faster, omnipotence is thought based. There is no scenario where saitama wins bro. The whole sealing is just a side remark but you're still wrong. He doesn't need touch, just send him there like kawaki does.

if you get blitzed and killed with a single punch, all these arguments don’t really matter much. You’re saying Shibai is faster? Faster compared to who and based on what? The guy hasn’t even walked yet, bro. And when Shibai tries to seal him, Saitama won’t just stand there lol. There are so many scenarios where Saitama wins.

 

[Epiccheev]

Isnt shibai the higher dimensional omnipotent Ninja entity from Boruto?
A.k.a gets soloed by Ichigo

 

[azizbengibi]

Isnt shibai the higher dimensional omnipotent Ninja entity from Boruto?

It is questionable whether he is of high dimensionality because Amado's statement can have multiple meanings, and we would need more context to say for sure that he is omnipotent.

 

[azizbengibi]

Also, if anyone knows how to add a photo from my gallery to the forum, could you please let me know?

 

[karo_senpaii]

if you get blitzed and killed with a single punch, all these arguments don’t really matter much. You’re saying Shibai is faster? Faster compared to who and based on what? The guy hasn’t even walked yet, bro. And when Shibai tries to seal him, Saitama won’t just stand there lol. There are so many scenarios where Saitama wins.

shibai is faster based on profiles. If speed is equalized shibai is still faster initially due to shunshin and omnipotence is thought based. Your coping mechanism is worrisome. The sealing is not shibai wincon. focus on the actual wincon ( RW + info type 2)

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Didn’t saitama fart really fast? I saw a calc getting it into mftl unironically

 

[azizbengibi]

shibai is faster based on profiles. If speed is equalized shibai is still faster initially due to shunshin and omnipotence is thought based. Your coping mechanism is worrisome. The sealing is not shibai wincon. focus on the actual wincon ( RW + info type 2)

When we use the time frame of Garou and Platinum Sperm (which is quite logical), Saitama is exactly 500 times faster than Shibai. If we equalize their speeds, Saitama's AD's would into the 3-5x range at the start of the fight and could end the match with a single punch. Also, you're trying to attribute all the hax from the verse to him without sufficient context. What's the deal with Shunshin bro?

 

[karo_senpaii]

When we use the time frame of Garou and Platinum Sperm (which is quite logical), Saitama is exactly 500 times faster than Shibai. If we equalize their speeds, Saitama's AD's would into the 3-5x range at the start of the fight and could end the match with a single punch. Also, you're trying to attribute all the hax from the verse to him without sufficient context. What's the deal with Shunshin bro?

bro i'm simply just quoting profiles that's all. All you're saying is stuff not accepted. IF speed is equalised saitama isn't reaching shibai faster than he can think. I did not attribute the verse abilities to him, just the ones he is stated to have. Shushin is body flicker. High speed shinobi movements capable of blitzing people comparable to them

 

[azizbengibi]

bro i'm simply just quoting profiles that's all. All you're saying is stuff not accepted. IF speed is equalised saitama isn't reaching shibai faster than he can think. I did not attribute the verse abilities to him, just the ones he is stated to have. Shushin is body flicker. High speed shinobi movements capable of blitzing people comparable to them

I honestly don't care if two or three authorized persons reject it I’m simply stating what makes sense. As I said, Saitama moves much faster than Shibai's thought, operating in the 3-5x range, and slams him with a one punch. Which Otsutsuki has ever used Shunshin so far that you claim such a simple technique would be used by the Otsutsuki god? Even if he did use it, it wouldn’t provide more of a speed advantage than Saitama's AD.

 

[Kin201]

Isnt shibai the higher dimensional omnipotent Ninja entity from Boruto?
A.k.a gets soloed by Ichigo

He is the GOAT who makes people hesitate to claim "X character solos Naruto and Boruto verses" because in reality, it’s Shibai who solos their favorite verses.

Now they'll be sure to add "excluding Shibai" at the end of their claims.

 

[Epiccheev]

Monkey costume Saitama wouod be top 5 goofiest moments in the series.

 

[karo_senpaii]

I honestly don't care if two or three authorized persons reject it I’m simply stating what makes sense. As I said, Saitama moves much faster than Shibai's thought, operating in the 3-5x range, and slams him with a one punch. Which Otsutsuki has ever used Shunshin so far that you claim such a simple technique would be used by the Otsutsuki god? Even if he did use it, it wouldn’t provide more of a speed advantage than Saitama's AD.

if we don't care about profiles then this topic is pointless. It's just you making arbitrary claims just because. "Saitama is faster" why? because i said so, because it makes sense. That's basically what you're doing, which is just like dumb tbh. Going by that logic shibai no sells Saitama's attacks and blitz him, why? coz 2b shibai and immeasurable speed makes sense to me. See how dumb the logic is? Yeah no try reading the series, everyone with chakra ever can use shunshin. It's just using chakra to enhance yourself for short burst of speed, even code and jigen use it, daemon too and it's not to show you it would provide you a speed advantage, it's to show you if shibai is faster than him normally then thinking which is even faster is something shibai would be able to pull off before anything saitama can do, and with one thought it's over. also the version of shibai we're talking about is pre-Asencion. Post ascension is irrelevant as saitama can't even interact with him. either way let's end this charade, it's become pointless

 

[Phoenks]

At least FTL, far higher with the Dimensional Slash (Stated by Blast to be a higher-dimensional interference that ignores distance, energy, and size. Both Void and Blast believed that the only way to reliably dodge it was through instant teleportation, inferring that avoiding it would be impossible otherwise. Flashy Flash shares this sentiment, stating that it was a technique that can't be dodged through speed alone)

My description of the speed.

Unfortunately, at the present moment, this is all that I see being accepted.

I know it's a huge downplay. I think everyone knows it is. But we don't have anything solid.

I would love to say it is actually infinite because it ignores distance. I really would

But Flashy Flashes straight up talks on panel after it hits the ground. Not even just a reaction. He literally speaks to Sonic, and Sonic hears his voice.

We also see it explicitly travel with finite speed as it moves towards Saitama in "Catch."

It is still possible that the original impact from beyond the universe is infinite speed, given that it does have to somehow spawn into the universe. However, beyond the "ignore distance" statement, it's not well supported.

There are visuals that make me believe that to be the case, such as galaxies behind present on the bubbles in certain images before he actually slashes down, but I'm really not confident in how it'll hold up on the site.

Don't get your hopes up for an insane speed rating.

 

[Redcated]

I mean just calculate his swing speed for being bigger than the universe

 

[Phoenks]

I mean just calculate his swing speed for being bigger than the universe

There is no reliable way to calculate this. He is swinging a sword in higher-dimensional space. The distance would be infinite. But, as noted, this is inconsistent with the visuals.

The initial strike into the universe could be infinite, though. It would require good arguments.

 

[MrTayman616]

There is no reliable way to calculate this. He is swinging a sword in higher-dimensional space. The distance would be infinite. But, as noted, this is inconsistent with the visuals.

The initial strike into the universe could be infinite, though. It would require good arguments.

there is also this moment. The last page shows that it is the exact moment teleportation happens, shown by portals sharing the same sound + Blast and others body isn't even fully transferred (still transferring, or just transferred). You can see it if you check their body closely.

The slash still should have not reached the portal since teleportation is instant. Yet it's shown that it already finished the entire attack

 

[Redcated]

Since Dimension Slash can cut space, it's not impossible for Void to cut the universe. The question is, would that be an AP feat or a hax feat?

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

Not to wank things, but I thought the general consensus was that Flashy Flash and Sonic's reactions took place right before the attack started coming their way, not during it? Otherwise this would severely undermine the supposed teleportation necessitation. That'd mean there was enough time to think, exchange glance and finish a sentence or two while it is still approaching. Granted, time probably flows differently between hyperspace and their universe which adds to the ambiguity.

 

[Alexander]

At least FTL, far higher with the Dimensional Slash (Stated by Blast to be a higher-dimensional interference that ignores distance, energy, and size. Both Void and Blast believed that the only way to reliably dodge it was through instant teleportation, inferring that avoiding it would be impossible otherwise. Flashy Flash shares this sentiment, stating that it was a technique that can't be dodged through speed alone)

My description of the speed.

Unfortunately, at the present moment, this is all that I see being accepted.

I know it's a huge downplay. I think everyone knows it is. But we don't have anything solid.

I would love to say it is actually infinite because it ignores distance. I really would

But Flashy Flashes straight up talks on panel after it hits the ground. Not even just a reaction. He literally speaks to Sonic, and Sonic hears his voice.

We also see it explicitly travel with finite speed as it moves towards Saitama in "Catch."

It is still possible that the original impact from beyond the universe is infinite speed, given that it does have to somehow spawn into the universe. However, beyond the "ignore distance" statement, it's not well supported.

There are visuals that make me believe that to be the case, such as galaxies behind present on the bubbles in certain images before he actually slashes down, but I'm really not confident in how it'll hold up on the site.

Don't get your hopes up for an insane speed rating.

which again, i will argue is just more a fictional problem than a scaling problem, like, Flashy can move at the speed of light (and faster)and he can Talk...at the same speeds, what?
and also that would mean he is faster than Void, which is not the case because Void has been blitzing both of them in all the fight.
Also also, if we use the logic that the visuals don't seem "infinite speed" then i will argue that many other infinite speed feats that WE ACCEPT has infinite speed, look slow or don't look fast enough

 

[Phoenks]

Since Dimension Slash can cut space, it's not impossible for Void to cut the universe. The question is, would that be an AP feat or a hax feat?

Hax. Doesn't do anything beyond destroying some mountains in terms of destructive capacity. Blade just cuts through space on a 4-D to 5-D level.

Not to wank things, but I thought the general consensus was that Flashy Flash and Sonic's reactions took place right before the attack started coming their way, not during it? Otherwise this would severely undermine the supposed teleportation necessitation. That'd mean there was enough time to think, exchange glance and finish a sentence or two while it is still approaching. Granted, time probably flows differently between hyperspace and their universe which adds to the ambiguity.

Flash says "Here it comes" on a panel where we already see the blade having destroyed a part of the ground in the background.

 

[Alexander]

Flash says "Here it comes" on a panel where we already see the blade having destroyed a part of the ground in the background.

Flash is not able to dodge the attack, and the attack was not for him, and that will make zero sense because that means he is able to dodge Void attacks when he is MANY times slower than him

 

[Epiccheev]

One day Saitama will prove himself to all non believers. For now... we wait.

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

Hax. Doesn't do anything beyond destroying some mountains in terms of destructive capacity. Blade just cuts through space on a 4-D to 5-D level.


Flash says "Here it comes" on a panel where we already see the blade having destroyed a part of the ground in the background.

There are two ways to interpret this. It's either the sword appears right as he finishes his sentence or during. I personally assumed it was the sword landing like it did before Saitama stopped it. It appearing PRECISELY after Flash already warned Sonic. It's kinda what spawned the whole precog debate.

Lowball: Flash was telling Sonic that it's coming while it is coming. (If this is proven as true then it makes the statements about instant teleportation look silly.)

Highball: The consequence of it appearing had no effect on their reactions. They were independent from one another. (If this is proven to not be true then it directly contradicts the established visual motif and timing between Blast and Flash. Note: They both predated the attack.)

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

And to be clear. I am not definitively saying Flash predicted the attack like Blast. I am talking about the moment of Flash's realization in order of appearance inside of the manga. At best it is implicit.

Oh and one more thing. If it is to be believed that Sonic is no slouch and can keep up with Flash, then I don't see why they both wouldn't have had the same reaction. Flash had to warn Sonic for Sonic to realize anything is even happening. Furthermore, upon being saved by Blast a second time, his brain still couldn't fully process what had happened and automatically assumed it must be a genjutsu. Giving weight to the speed of DS.

 

[azizbengibi]

if we don't care about profiles then this topic is pointless. It's just you making arbitrary claims just because. "Saitama is faster" why? because i said so, because it makes sense. That's basically what you're doing, which is just like dumb tbh. Going by that logic shibai no sells Saitama's attacks and blitz him, why? coz 2b shibai and immeasurable speed makes sense to me. See how dumb the logic is? Yeah no try reading the series, everyone with chakra ever can use shunshin. It's just using chakra to enhance yourself for short burst of speed, even code and jigen use it, daemon too and it's not to show you it would provide you a speed advantage, it's to show you if shibai is faster than him normally then thinking which is even faster is something shibai would be able to pull off before anything saitama can do, and with one thought it's over. also the version of shibai we're talking about is pre-Asencion. Post ascension is irrelevant as saitama can't even interact with him. either way let's end this charade, it's become pointless

I'm not making baseless claims lmao. I explained why Saitama would be faster by using the time frame of Garou and Platinum Sperm. Using this is perfectly logical, and if you think it’s illogical, then argue against it, bro, because otherwise, you're basically saying that IO Saitama and Cosmic Garou are slower than Platinum Sperm and Monster Garou. Everything I say has a reason, and I've already read the series. Why would a godlike being like Shibai use a basic technique like Shunshin? So far, we haven’t even seen a pure Otsutsuki use Shunshin (even if they did, it wouldn’t make a difference, but whatever lol).

You’re just trying every possible way to make Shibai win, and that’s all you’re doing. How many times do I have to emphasize that if we equalize their speeds, Saitama would blitz him with AD. When attacking within a 3-5x range, your opponent becomes incapable of properly reacting don’t you know this? Additionally, Saitama has NPI and Astral Projection, so he can see, touch, and harm him. I could argue this forever, bro.

We’ve already seen in the latest chapters that Saitama can interact with higher dimensions. Now if you come and say to me, 'the standard NPI is insufficient to interact with Shibai,' I’d sit and laugh at this for two weeks.

 

[KaydeeX]

I'm not making baseless claims lmao. I explained why Saitama would be faster by using the time frame of Garou and Platinum Sperm. Using this is perfectly logical, and if you think it’s illogical, then argue against it, bro, because otherwise, you're basically saying that IO Saitama and Cosmic Garou are slower than Platinum Sperm and Monster Garou. Everything I say has a reason, and I've already read the series. Why would a godlike being like Shibai use a basic technique like Shunshin? So far, we haven’t even seen a pure Otsutsuki use Shunshin (even if they did, it wouldn’t make a difference, but whatever lol).

You’re just trying every possible way to make Shibai win, and that’s all you’re doing. How many times do I have to emphasize that if we equalize their speeds, Saitama would blitz him with AD. When attacking within a 3-5x range, your opponent becomes incapable of properly reacting don’t you know this? Additionally, Saitama has NPI and Astral Projection, so he can see, touch, and harm him. I could argue this forever, bro.

We’ve already seen in the latest chapters that Saitama can interact with higher dimensions. Now if you come and say to me, 'the standard NPI is insufficient to interact with Shibai,' I’d sit and laugh at this for two weeks.

make the freaking match then

 

[azizbengibi]

make the freaking match then

This guy is a Naruto fan, so he can’t stand us dissing any character here and keeps dragging the topic pointlessly. What I’m talking about is simple, but he’s having difficulty understanding it. He shouldn’t compare low-tier universes like Boruto to universes like OPM. I’m about to start swearing, but I won’t. It’s best if he goes to the Boruto thread and talks about Shibai there, because this place isn’t for him. Everyone should stick to their own turf.

 

[KaydeeX]

you’re clouded in incredulity
don’t diss naruto tho

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

Let's be peaceful about this. 2025 is right around the corner.

 

[Quangotjokes]

if you get blitzed and killed with a single punch, all these arguments don’t really matter much. You’re saying Shibai is faster? Faster compared to who and based on what? The guy hasn’t even walked yet, bro. And when Shibai tries to seal him, Saitama won’t just stand there lol. There are so many scenarios where Saitama wins.

He’s dead, Shibai ascended to the afterlife by dying lol

 

[karo_senpaii]

I'm not making baseless claims lmao. I explained why Saitama would be faster by using the time frame of Garou and Platinum Sperm. Using this is perfectly logical, and if you think it’s illogical, then argue against it, bro, because otherwise, you're basically saying that IO Saitama and Cosmic Garou are slower than Platinum Sperm and Monster Garou. Everything I say has a reason, and I've already read the series. Why would a godlike being like Shibai use a basic technique like Shunshin? So far, we haven’t even seen a pure Otsutsuki use Shunshin (even if they did, it wouldn’t make a difference, but whatever lol).

You’re just trying every possible way to make Shibai win, and that’s all you’re doing. How many times do I have to emphasize that if we equalize their speeds, Saitama would blitz him with AD. When attacking within a 3-5x range, your opponent becomes incapable of properly reacting don’t you know this? Additionally, Saitama has NPI and Astral Projection, so he can see, touch, and harm him. I could argue this forever, bro.

We’ve already seen in the latest chapters that Saitama can interact with higher dimensions. Now if you come and say to me, 'the standard NPI is insufficient to interact with Shibai,' I’d sit and laugh at this for two weeks.

It's a baseless claim why?
The argument was based on our profiles shibai slaps. your claim is baseless coz it isn't accepted on profiles
once again if we start talking about stuff we just feel like i'd slap immeasurable speed on shibai right now
I'm not saying they are slower. They are indeed faster coz PS feat is Ftl and saitama speed is still ftl+. If you're convinced that the time frame should be used sure no problem but immediately you do that it means we've deviated from what is on profiles and hence i can bring in whatever personal scaling i can of shibai. At that point this turns into a wank fest which i'm not interested in.
I'm not trying to make shibai win, he just does. you won't die if saitama looses, chill out bro. Are you asking why shibai would use chakra to move? coz that's what shunshin is, also this is for shibai pre ascension. not interested in post ascension coz it's unknown
Shibai is faster by profiles. If you leave profiles and go personal scaling, I got shibai faster. If you equalise speed, thinking is still faster than having a character meters away from you reach you even if the person is 10 times faster. Also by the way saitama extreme AD kicks in through emotion, joy, anger , enjoying a fight or whatever. It's never going to kick in by shibai thinking. With a thought the battle is over

No one mentioned anything related to Higher D, stop the cap.

make the freaking match then

the match is pointless and boring coz whoever you think wins it's still a stomp

 

[MrTayman616]

We're alive once more.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Forum finally works!

 

[Franako]

Happy new year

 

[Alexander]

HAPPY NEW YEAR *******

 

[Wesker018]

Happy new year

 

[Pearly0nsams]

Happy new year!

 

[Samlex1234]

I'm not making baseless claims lmao. I explained why Saitama would be faster by using the time frame of Garou and Platinum Sperm. Using this is perfectly logical, and if you think it’s illogical, then argue against it, bro, because otherwise, you're basically saying that IO Saitama and Cosmic Garou are slower than Platinum Sperm and Monster Garou. Everything I say has a reason, and I've already read the series. Why would a godlike being like Shibai use a basic technique like Shunshin? So far, we haven’t even seen a pure Otsutsuki use Shunshin (even if they did, it wouldn’t make a difference, but whatever lol).

You’re just trying every possible way to make Shibai win, and that’s all you’re doing. How many times do I have to emphasize that if we equalize their speeds, Saitama would blitz him with AD. When attacking within a 3-5x range, your opponent becomes incapable of properly reacting don’t you know this? Additionally, Saitama has NPI and Astral Projection, so he can see, touch, and harm him. I could argue this forever, bro.

We’ve already seen in the latest chapters that Saitama can interact with higher dimensions. Now if you come and say to me, 'the standard NPI is insufficient to interact with Shibai,' I’d sit and laugh at this for two weeks.

Have you seen Shibai’s profile?

 

[Coomandar]

nuh uhhh , he has immeasurable speed sneeze

both garou and saitama are much, MUCH, MUCH faster than void, so yeah, most likely that was infinite speed/immeasurable