By "line up" I mean in reference to your point about "zooming far enough". I thought your point is that the last graph shows a different graph from the previous ones, which I disagree with by pointing out the fact that both have the same details. They "line up".
Be it the dots or the heads, in either case Saitama's AD was picking up the pace and overtaking Garou's. So I think the logic is that in his final burst of AD he lapped him while he was still following the same growth route.The zoomed in and zoomed out parts actually line up tho.
Zooming out, the lines move the same distance.
But I get your point. The way saitama's line is getting longer and longer, at a certain point zooming far enough garou's wouldn't be seen.
The problem is that currently, it's not far enough.
I didn't say there was different graphs. It's one graph, I just used terminology for "multiple" to make it easier to tell which snapshot I'm referencing. Because they can be viewed as their own variations of it.
Oh, my bad, it's 3.3 ns shorter, but turning a thought into action also takes a certain amount of time. Can you prove that the programming language will execute in less than 55 ns? You can't prove it because we don't know how this event works in Shibai or how quickly it works. In this case, since it doesn't depend on the speed of thought, it's inevitable that he will be crushed by Saitama.
what do you mean by "lapped him while he was still following the same growth route"?
The growth route is the trajectory of his line and the "lapped" is a racing term that can be used in place of "overtake". Like crossing the same distance twice over in similar time despite Garou trying his best to maintain an even playing field.
Erm the panel in this should be read from right to left? Right?@ReusedOil
Anyway, if their positions not being in sync is what's bugging you, then what about all of the previous points that can be found before and after the selected snapshots? They don't line up either. Every last one of those points is meant to represent the last peak and so is the next and the next. Some arbitrary ones in the snapshot show them traveling alongside each other, and some don't like the notorious last one. In the first one just as Garou experiences one, Saitama laps him. The final one is Saitama dominating across both axis, since his were starting to happen too quickly.
No.
Here's me lining up the previous graphs to the last one. They fit. Down to where in the grid they are placed:
Why was this crossed out dot ignored? (See original image.)
It makes for a better match to that one snapshot you keep coming back to.
You skipped over it.
That's all kinds of confusing and doesn't help communicate your point. I know how to read Japanese manga, I assure you. I can follow the order of events just fine. I am asking why you're looking over a dot and insisting the other two dots must be the correct ones? The snapshots are not giving you all of the relevant information, they come with their own distinct inconsistencies as well as skips. Some of the dots near the beginning of this graph were already brushed aside in favor of the latter ones.Here's me lining up the previous graphs to the last one. They fit. Down to where in the grid they are placed:
OK so I'm confused. What do you mean by "why you're looking over a dot and insisting the other two dots must be the correct ones?"
You're overlooking the way they're going in favor of the heads. And the grid is too unreliable at helping us figure it out.
They didn't teleport it to another dimension. Blast teleported it to space (couldn't teleport to a higher distance because of the energy being so high). With the help of the team, They redirected the energy.
The reason I find it a fascinating thing to bring up is the potential of a theoretical energy dispersion and weakening of the shockwave. But for that we would need to learn more about how those gates work. Was that hold he performed the same as a black hole type hyperspace gate? The shockwave appeared to be confined in something we don't get a clear view of.
I think this void wasn’t entirely caused by the energy of the collision. It felt like there was an accumulation of energy there, and just as it was about to explode, Blast took it away. I'm sure we would have seen an explosion effect, and if it were solely the result of all that energy, I’m certain the destruction in space would have been much greater.
I don't think anybody has an issue with that explanation. It's pretty much agreed upon. The part that's not as clear is what happened during the energy's brief confinement not upon release. That's probably what's being asked. And I for one don't think we'll ever get an answer, it's just fun to entertain the idea.
What I'm curious about is, what was the explosion effect we saw actually from?
Safest to go with what we have the most information for. Another shockwave from a serious punch except this time it actually connected to something else with enough force to resist it, which explains why it looks different from his air based shockwaves we've seen prior.
You know what I think we need is another person to weigh on this because I sincerely don't see what you're describing
There is no action here. t's a thought based ability, it depends on thought. WHat in the copium is this?
Let me shorten it for you. The dots/points on the lines are not necessarily their last seen positions in the snapshots. The snapshot positions of their heads are likely random. It's purely coincidence that they line up. In the final one we see Garou is still in his fifth growth, while Saitama has already initiated his sixth.
Starting from the last page of chapter 167. Not Serious Punch Squared.
If they line up, why is it a coincidence?
The manga chooses to highlight the moments they're neck and neck, there's no pattern beyond that. You could very well interpret Garou as an inferior Saitama because he's being copied. A good analogy would be the last moments before contestants in a race cross the finish line. The scene lingers on the two of them being even before one overtakes the other.
Fr. I think he's putting too much weight on the brief moments their positions aligned. I don't see any deeper meaning either and I've been trying my best to communicate that. Saitama's -whatever you wanna call them- were changing from Garou's because Garou's copy ability can only go so far.
You did not understand what I mean. There is an action process here a transition from thought to an attack or whatever it is, which involves a process. In other words, the programming language will have an initiation and execution time. Shibai might be able to complete this instantly in thought, but the execution of the programming language itself will not happen instantly.
It does happen instantly. That's the point of thought based ability. But even if it's activation speed scales to shibai speed , we've already established shibai can do 15 different things before saitama gets to him
Man, it doesn’t happen instantly, I already explained this. Just because it’s a thought based ability doesn’t mean the activation speed is the same as the thought speed. I can give a very simple example, Eida. She desired something, and her ability activated afterward, but it didn’t happen the moment she desired it because there was a time for the ability to activate. If you can’t find a panel or evidence showing that Shibai’s ability happens instantly, whatever you say will remain as speculation, it’s that simple. Additionally, if you can’t support your claim that it "happens instantly" for physical results, the 15 different things Shibai is supposed to do would also be delayed.
What exactly is the issue here? It's not so hard to comprehend. Activation refers to combat speed. You yourself made sure to establish that in the 50m it takes for saitama to reach shibai, shibai can perform 15 different actions. Choose the time frame out od the 15 you want to be for activation time. Stop the copium please and rest
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ln 50m, we said Shibai can think 15 times, but we said translating those thoughts into actions will take time. Even the slightest delay will result in being blitzed. Against an opponent coming at you with 3-5x range while you are at 1x combat speed, you cannot activate any attack or ability in time, and you will get blitzed. Is it really that hard to understand? I’m not the one copium here bro, the person who needs to stop copium is you.
you're confusing can with would. He would just think once and the remaining 14 time frames are for the activation. In simpler terms shibai can think and activate 7 different times
