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oh yeahSomething to note about zero punch
Saitama threw the punch at this moment in chapter 166
But it landed at chapter 165
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Saitama threw his punch after he saw the moment in chapter 166 but the punch probably landed afterwards, in chapter 165 since time was still moving backwards for him.
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For some time now I felt that zero punch acted as the thing that sets up dimension slash. Like that was their way of introducing causality defying moves. But after seeing dimension slash kill/damage absolutely nobody I don't know what to think anymore...
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Eh... I'll change it to kill/damage... Saitama don't count for obvious reasons. (It don't matter with him either way, nor does he care about taking it head on.)
Flashy Flash got a scratch, but it still missed.
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Flashy was not the target
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Prolly not. I just wanted to include that in there in case someone decides to be pedantic about it.
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Ik, I was just joking
Though that attack was an instakill, and OPM is recognized for not killing heroes (
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necessary for vtuber moment after all.
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Hoping to get a redraw with at least 30 pages at the start of the new year.
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I'm still surprised that bm Naruto is faster than Saitama it's really funny.
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I still think that downplaying the IO feat was dumb
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Absolutely, I'm sure no one believes Naruto is faster than Saitama, no matter how it looks on the wiki, lol.
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Why was the feat rejected btw?
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It's not rejected. There wasn't any suitable timeframe for it. If someone finds a better one than the currect one, it could be used.
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Oh yeah, the causality punch also confirms that causality is synonymous with time in OPM. And it also potentially helps argue for it being related to parallel timelines as well. So that can be added to the argument for 5-D Hyperspace.
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We'll most likely determine whether to definitively classify it as MFTL or FTL+ once the anime comes out. In my opinion, MFTL calculation was pretty solid, and I don't see any issues with the timeframe
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And kids, thats why Hyperspace in OPM>dragon ball and its "5D"afterlife
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I don't even know what are y'all arguing but if its going to upgrade Saitama up to Low 1-C then I agree
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Another thing I should mention.
A lot of people will be inclined to say "well if Void can target anything with his sword why didn't he just destroy the universe / planet / galaxy"
With the new chapter revealing that Void isn't even really evil like that, and only really wanting to kill Blast... It means he wasn't even trying to destroy the planet or anything of the sort.
He wanted to gather more people and share is power.
So arguments on that line are practically irrelevant
A lot of people will be inclined to say "well if Void can target anything with his sword why didn't he just destroy the universe / planet / galaxy"
With the new chapter revealing that Void isn't even really evil like that, and only really wanting to kill Blast... It means he wasn't even trying to destroy the planet or anything of the sort.
He wanted to gather more people and share is power.
So arguments on that line are practically irrelevant
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But he is pretty stupid lets be honest
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he's just a tsundere
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What makes him stupid for only targeting Blast's location? His sword ignores distance narratively-speaking, so it's a perfectly valid thing to do.
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Bro his plan was that his sister spies on Blast, Blast ended up ******* and impregnating her, Void turned into a Uncle because of his Mastermind plan
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No that is not stupid at all (and lets be honest i hope arguments for infinite speed, or even MFTL+ Saitama are made)
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The landing speed should be instant considering ignoring distance statement + time travel feat (even the movement of slash too normally :d).
Saitama's time travel causes the divergence of timelines, which they diverge as bubbles, He interacts and attacks Garou from the bubble which it appears instantly (also he still hears and perceives everything normally in the timeline which supports the timeline diverges until Saitama chooses a bubble). Also it's God's power as well which might support it.
Even if it wasn't accepted as instant, It should be MFTL+.
The landing speed perception blitz Flashy flash and even Blast. Flashy Flash has a statement of being able to move at the speed of light + the name of the chapter 198, paralles Sonic and Flash, which Flashy Flash is referred as the speed of light + even FTL is supported by feats, supports the statements more. the reaction time of speed of light (0.000000003336 second) can be used for how fast DS moves the total distance, which considering it's above the clouds, it should be like 10-20 km? maybe more.
It would be around 10000-20000 times speed of light which is MFTL+.
If Flashy Flash's statement is not accepted, it is still fine as there is Gamma Ray Burst. Gamma ray burst moves at 0.999999 speed of light / nearly at speed of light. A casual Saitama jumps and blocks himself against it. which casual Saitama is a version of Saitama Garou had copied at that moment. Then Garou fights Blast, Blast moves and reacts to everything. And then he even reacts and moves faster than Serious Saitama which is massively superior to Casual who reacts and blocks himself against GRB. so Speed of light reaction speed can still be used. So it would still be around 10000-20000 times Sol.
Also there are other situations for Casual Saitama which Garou copied, or a version which Blast's superior to. A casual Saitama can react to Geryuganshops rock's speed which moves at near light speed stated by Murata. Casual Saitama is superior to Meteoric Boros, which he was even able to throw Saitama almost at the light speed.
If the total distance is accepted as higher (like edge of the universe or distance of stars etc etc.) this timeframe would still be acceptable and making the speed feat way higher.
I believe MFTL+ is nearly guaranteed and that it will be accepted. Infinite speed might be accepted.
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this would be calc stacking
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Uh, no? The speed of GRB is not from a calculation or anything but a real life situation. Literally the same as how light moves at light speed.
(Calc stacking refers to the practice of using results from one calculation in order to calculate other feats.)
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Its speed is a constant yeah ik. Saitama dodging grb needs to be calced before you can slap a value on it. The value gotten can’t be used in “Blast blitzing” calc, cuz using the previous value to make this current one would be calc stacking.
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I prefer MFTL+ feats that involve traversing interplanetary or interstellar distances within a measurable timeframe.
OPM lacks such feats. The only two MFTL+ feats that no one scales to are Saitama and Garou being propelled from Earth to Jupiter almost instantaneously, as well as the shockwave from SP² reaching into space.
While I am a fan of the series, I have to admit that there are currently no clear or uncontroversial MFTL+ feats present at all.
OPM lacks such feats. The only two MFTL+ feats that no one scales to are Saitama and Garou being propelled from Earth to Jupiter almost instantaneously, as well as the shockwave from SP² reaching into space.
While I am a fan of the series, I have to admit that there are currently no clear or uncontroversial MFTL+ feats present at all.
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Using a value from that, it would be Calc stalking. Also doesn't he scales to it's entire speed?
Uh, No one used that anyway?
Also there are other situations as well. A casual Saitama can react to Geryuganshops rock's speed which moves at near light speed stated by Murata. Casual Saitama is superior to Meteoric Boros, which he was even able to throw Saitama almost at the light speed.
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Lets be honest everyone who in powerscaling that does not understand that time can also be a factor, prefers the interplanetary and interstellar travel ways of MFTL feats
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I mentioned it because these are the most straightforward and uncontroversial feats. Everyone and their mother knows the distances between planets, stars, and galaxies.
Outside of feats like that, timeframe and distance are the two factors that people often make up and inflate in calculations which lead to massive results.
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New chapter is kinda bad. I do like the fact that Blast knew tho and still bagged her
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speed ratings aren't allowed to be converted to time frames to be used in another calc any longer
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I didn't give anything from another calc though? If you're talking about rock's speed part, i sent it for the statement of it (near light speed), not the value of the calc.
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