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Still wishing that the sneeze was Saitama'a best feat.

Scaling him would be so much more fun.

He could've had a rating that is like

At least High 6-A, up to at least Low 4-C with Accelerated Development

And the Low 4-C would be based on a sneeze so you could argue his physical punches are like ridiculously higher than that
 
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Sneezing is Saitama's best attack. Punch only uses a few muscles while a sneeze uses the strongest combination of muscles to release something. So, sneeze is Saitama's strongest attack as he uses basically all his strongest muscles.
 
Sneezing is Saitama's best attack. Punch only uses a few muscles while a sneeze uses the strongest combination of muscles to release something. So, sneeze is Saitama's strongest attack as he uses basically all his strongest muscles.
Jokes aside, sneezing has a lot more force than people give it credit for. Idk why people act like it's the be-all-end-all. Granted obviously hurting something with a sneeze is virtually impossible, but the amount of force generated behind a good sneeze is not really as small as one might think. It tenses up your whole body and releases as much force through your nostrils via your lungs as possible to eject debris. Which is why sometimes on rare occasions you might feel a pain in your chest after a good sneeze.
 
Jokes aside, sneezing has a lot more force than people give it credit for. Idk why people act like it's the be-all-end-all. Granted obviously hurting something with a sneeze is virtually impossible, but the amount of force generated behind a good sneeze is not really as small as one might think. It tenses up your whole body and releases as much force through your nostrils via your lungs as possible to eject debris. Which is why sometimes on rare occasions you might feel a pain in your chest after a good sneeze.
Because you're just ejecting a few droplets from your nose and/or mouth.

For Saitama's sneeze particles to travel through a significant portion of space and then hit Jupiter with enough force to obliterate half the gas layer is just ridiculous.

A sneeze that weighs 1~ gram and travels at 100 mph (upper limit) would produce just about exactly 1~ Joule of kinetic energy.

Average untrained human punch is about 100~ Joules or so.

Some logic like that would make Saitama 100+ times stronger than the sneeze..
 
Still wishing that the sneeze was Saitama'a best feat.

Scaling him would be so much more fun.

He could've had a rating that is like

At least High 6-A, up to at least Low 4-C with Accelerated Development

And the Low 4-C would be based on a sneeze so you could argue his physical punches are like ridiculously higher than that
You're saying the 4-A/3-C SP squared acts as an anti-feat in the context of the sneeze's implications? Btw, off-topic. I think the last chapter de-confirmed Empty Void having a third form. The "bird form" was just a strange drawing choice to indicate he regained his consciousness/humanity. You can compare the two monsterized faces of his, they have the same glowing pattern.
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This form won't make sense with his new face and would feel redundant. You can also tell that the glowy bits are not an aura but a part of his monster tissue.
 
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You're saying the 4-A/3-C SP squared acts as an anti-feat in the context of the sneeze's implications? Btw, off-topic. I think the last chapter de-confirmed Empty Void having a third form. The "bird form" was just a strange drawing choice to indicate he regained his consciousness/humanity. You can compare the two monsterized faces of his, they have the same glowing pattern.
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This form won't make sense with his new face and would feel redundant. You can also tell that the glowy bits are not an aura but a part of his monster tissue.
No I was just saying I think Saitama scaling would be more fun if SP^2 feat didn't exist.

I'm not really a fan of that feat at all. It makes everything after it look like child's play in comparison, undermining a lot of the beautiful art. All because of some lame hole in space.

I would like it more if it came later in the fight, or if it had more artistic detail to it. Like, Serious Table Flip and Serious Sneeze had much better artistic direction and impact.

Hoping the next volume changes some things.
 
No I was just saying I think Saitama scaling would be more fun if SP^2 feat didn't exist.

I'm not really a fan of that feat at all. It makes everything after it look like child's play in comparison, undermining a lot of the beautiful art. All because of some lame hole in space.

I would like it more if it came later in the fight, or if it had more artistic detail to it. Like, Serious Table Flip and Serious Sneeze had much better artistic direction and impact.

Hoping the next volume changes some things.
Technically most of the crazy feats are tied to Saitama's level of involvement and these chapters were centered around Blast and his relationship with Void. The more screen time is given to him alongside other characters the more likely it becomes that we're about to see something utterly insane. I mean Saitama only appeared for a brief moment recently and for that brief moment he already managed to leave a lot of people dumbfounded. And this was like, what? Two, three pages? Who knows what is coming in the future when someone makes Saitama actually stick around. Since it's usually him that pushes the opponent to the absolute limit.

It seriously tracks. Boros feats? Nobody saw them, they were exclusive to Saitama's fight. Orochi? Same thing. Later stages of Garou? Again. You could unironically use the titular character as a feat forecast almost.

TL;DR I think they're reserving the craziest feats for when God and Saitama are direct participants. At least when it comes to outperforming SP^2.
 
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From what i know Vergil's sword is not a smurf anymore
It's a joke that refers to the fact for a time it was accepted that demons had 9D souls which would require equivalent dimensionality to damage. Essentially making any of Vergil's regular attacks vastly more powerful than DS from OPM.

For more context and why it was eventually rejected, you can read this blog: https://devilmaycry.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:The_Blaiddyd/Demystifying_Misconceptions_About_DMC

Mind you, I am not agreeing with everything written inside the blog. I just think it does a well enough job explaining why Peak of Combat should not be treated as a reliable source.
 
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I haven't looked at this thread since the Cosmic Garou chapters. What's the verdict for Voids tier right now?
Speed: FTL+, massively lower with his dimensional slash (never connects its target regardless how much it tries)
AP: 7-A, possibly far lower (even when in the higher dimension outside of the causality of the universe, being bigger than the universe itself, the best he could do is destroying a Mountain).
Durability: Low 7-C (Saitama seemed as casual with him as he was with Mosquito Girl. But he survived way better the attack)
 
Speed: FTL+, massively lower with his dimensional slash (never connects its target regardless how much it tries)
AP: 7-A, possibly far lower (even when in the higher dimension outside of the causality of the universe, being bigger than the universe itself, the best he could do is destroying a Mountain).
Durability: Low 7-C (Saitama seemed as casual with him as he was with Mosquito Girl. But he survived way better the attack)
What's the freaking utility in having a causality defying slash with infinite speed start up, if SAID SPEED DOESN'T CARRY OVER WHERE IT MATTERS?
What's the POINT in enlarging yourself to be bigger than the universe IF YOU CAN'T CAUSE PROPORTIONAL DESTRUCTION?

Yeah, no. He ain't beating the allegations.
 
What's the freaking utility in having a causality defying slash with infinite speed start up, if SAID SPEED DOESN'T CARRY OVER WHERE IT MATTERS?
What's the POINT in enlarging yourself to be bigger than the universe IF YOU CAN'T CAUSE PROPORTIONAL DESTRUCTION?

Yeah, no. He ain't beating the allegations.
Why is your name Void if you can't even use Void Manipulation.
 
In fact, saying that it does not have infinite speed is just as ridiculous as saying that Flashy avoided it, because you have must not watch the manga.
I'm memeing something that was said in the past. The annoying part is the discrepancy of his performance.

Edit: Forget it. I'm done with the jokes. Last time I take the side of lightheartedness and optimism inside of this thread.
 
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Oh yeah, Void should have resistance to spatial manipulation since it states that Blast's power of darkness no longer works on him due to the Garou factor, which is why he stopped using his Gravity Knuckle.
 
Do we accept that God's Deconstruction/Transmutation or any abilities he will show in the future will scale to 4-D/5-D potency?
If they originate from hyperspace like Void's DS, it should be. Considering that God tends to spam his hax from the higher dimension, I think it's likely. After all, Blast says Dimension Slash is just one of the many powers God has.

Fodders like Homeless Emperor though, obviously do not have 4D light powers.
 
Speed: FTL+, massively lower with his dimensional slash (never connects its target regardless how much it tries)
AP: 7-A, possibly far lower (even when in the higher dimension outside of the causality of the universe, being bigger than the universe itself, the best he could do is destroying a Mountain).
Durability: Low 7-C (Saitama seemed as casual with him as he was with Mosquito Girl. But he survived way better the attack)

Mfw Void gets Saitama downscaling from Mosquito Girl after Boros gets his Orochi upscaling removed


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Even Flashy flash and Sonic can react to it

Wallahi Void is finished 💀💀💀
To be exact it is a 50/50 at present on that front. They either reacted to it as it was still traveling their way or Flashy sensed it much like Blast back in chapter 196 meaning it's appearance on the ground had nothing to do with him warning Sonic. It might've only just spawned after he completed his sentence. The problem comes in the form of not having enough information.

Best case scenario we get another "Likely far higher" speed rating.

Worth noting: The alternative to the highball is contradiction. His in-universe speed is already blitzing the likes of Flash yet I'm supposed to believe DS grants them more time to react to it when the manga's statements say otherwise?

"Speed Blitz is the act of one attacking their opponent before they are capable of perceiving or reacting to them. Blitzing is different than outpacing,"
 
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