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[Quangotjokes]

Where are the calcs for the last chapter?

 

[Phoenks]

??? There is not much to calculate tbh.

 

[Alexander]

??? There is not much to calculate tbh.

The speed of the Dimensional slash?

 

[ReusedOil]

The speed of the Dimensional slash?

Likely immeasurable, as has been parroted so many times already

This begs the question, does saitama scale to the speed or does his capability to do so ONLY activates when encountering phenomena that actively ignores time?

Theres a lot more evidence to the latter

 

[Swagoorago]

Um is it just me or did you just copy and pasted my theory, word for word? Exact wording, exact phrasing. Literally not one difference

Like ???

You know you could have just quoted it right?

lol , i took it from another guy in a discord server i dont follow everything here every time i come there is 20 pages more

 

[ReusedOil]

lol , i took it from another guy in a discord server i dont follow everything here every time i come there is 20 pages more

Then that "another guy" probably saw my post and copy and pasted it cause the entire thing was a 1:1 recreation

Copyception

That being said, I feel so proud. Look at me mom, im a celebrity now

 

[Swagoorago]

It's pretty funny to see that only opm(from what i know) that can cause so much madness in the powerscaling community why is that?

because its the only manga that shows actual feats where the creators of it seem to actually be interested and do research to power scale their verse instead of throwing some stupid statements by a random character then show a tiny rock be destroyed or your multi outer extra versal mc getting knocked by hitting a fire hydrant or not being able to dodge a bus

 

[Swagoorago]

Then that "another guy" probably saw my post and copy and pasted it cause the entire thing was a 1:1 recreation

Copyception

That being said, I feel so proud. Look at me mom, im a celebrity now

good feeling , like that one time i made this and then kept seeing it everywhere for a few years lol

 

[Naeem0304]

Much thanks for the effort.

now about the result, in determining the actual strength behind gravity knuckle, wouldn't it be (stellar) attack potency + garou's own strength? Its technically just a buff to attacks

Ah but wait, do we have to include the momentum produced by the gravitational pull upon the subject? How fast is saitama getting attracted by apparently stellar forces of gravity and the force produced when crashing into garou's fist at that speed?

So its more like, stellar attack potency + stellar produced momentum + garou's own strength.

Huh. Gravity kunckle sounds a lot more dangerous now

This was apart of my earlier theory; Gravity Knuckle combines extreme gravity forces (like two neutron stars or a black hole) to create a gravitational wave that bends space-time, so the fact that it creates Pre-Stellar/Stellar force makes a lot of sense.

But anyways, the momentum would still count (remember that the Nuclear Fission blast was 900 kilometers in diameter and got pulled away into Gravity Knuckle very quickly) so that'd still be prevalent there.

So it'd be more like Stellar momentum/gravitational force + Multi-Solar System/Galaxy level AP (from Garou's physicals) + Stellar level absorption (can pretty much suck in any attack that weighs more than a Large Planet.)

 

[ReusedOil]

Stellar level absorption (can pretty much suck in any attack that weighs more than a Large Planet.)

Shouldn't the pressure matter more?

 

[Naeem0304]

Shouldn't the pressure matter more?

Oh, so your asking if the Stellar pressure (and Garou/Saitama's resistance to it's pull) matter?

It 100% does. Saitama was casually just resisting near Pre-Stellar/Stellar pressure without any sort of issues. I'll see if I can calculate something out of it, but the result wouldn't be anything short of impressive.

 

[Jirenoffical]

Tried to calculate the speed of Dimensional Slash, correct or not there are the values i've calculated so far:

For every possiblty, will use 1 second (low end) 13 miliseconds (mid end) and 1 miliseconds (high end)

LOW End
Assuming it comes from where Void aims, which is sky.

MID End
Assuming it comes from edge of universe

HIGH End
Assuming the universe is infinite

1- LOW-Low END:
It's both from sky and happens in 1 second
Even though taking it as low as its from sky, i'll take it as the highest layer of sky, Exosphere, which has the top height of 3000km

For the Low end, assuming it happens in 1 second (which is literally impossible since Sonic and FF can't dodge it)- 3,000,000 meters per second (Hypersonic)

LOW-Mid end
Taking the same 3000km distance but 13 miliseconds-
3,000,000÷0,013=230,769,230.76923 meters per second(Relativistic+)

LOW-High end
Taking the same 3000km distance but 1 milisecond-
3,000,000÷0,001=3,000,000,000 meters per second (FTL+)

MID-Low end
Assuming its from the edge of universe (46.5 billion light-years: distance between earth and the edge of universe), in 1 second-
46.5 billion light years into meters=4.39923966975e+26 meters per second (MFTL+, 1.467.428.399.999.975.936[1,46 quintillion] times of SoL)

MID-Mid end
Taking same distance but 0,013 seconds-
4.39923966975e+26÷0,013=3.38402974596e+28 meters per second (MFTL+, 112.879.082.033.477.976.000 [112,87 quintillion] times of SoL)

MID-High end
Same distance but 0,001 seconds-
4.39923966975e+26÷0,001=4.39923966975e+29 meters per second (MFTL+, 1.467.428.399.999.975.950.000 [1,46 Sextillion] times of SoL)

HIGH ENDS
{Of course using of time is useless here, so i'll just use assumes}

HIGH end 1-
The universe is infinite and whatever the time it takes for blade to hit is irrevelant, speed of attack is Infinity Speed

HIGH end 2-
The attack is beyond the causalty of the universe, because it is from Hyperspace which is out of causalty. Hyperspace is not just exceeding distance, energy and size but also time and other rules of universe since it is outside of causalty, and must have a time of its own. Moving in its own time and moving above the time flow of univers
e, the attack would be Immeasurable Speed.

 

[Alexander]

Tried to calculate the speed of Dimensional Slash, correct or not there are the values i've calculated so far:

For every possiblty, will use 1 second (low end) 13 miliseconds (mid end) and 1 miliseconds (high end)

LOW End
Assuming it comes from where Void aims, which is sky.

MID End
Assuming it comes from edge of universe

HIGH End
Assuming the universe is infinite

1- LOW-Low END:
It's both from sky and happens in 1 second
Even though taking it as low as its from sky, i'll take it as the highest layer of sky, Exosphere, which has the top height of 3000km

For the Low end, assuming it happens in 1 second (which is literally impossible since Sonic and FF can't dodge it)- 3,000,000 meters per second (Hypersonic)

LOW-Mid end
Taking the same 3000km distance but 13 miliseconds-
3,000,000÷0,013=230,769,230.76923 meters per second(Relativistic+)

LOW-High end
Taking the same 3000km distance but 1 milisecond-
3,000,000÷0,001=3,000,000,000 meters per second (FTL+)

MID-Low end
Assuming its from the edge of universe (46.5 billion light-years: distance between earth and the edge of universe), in 1 second-
46.5 billion light years into meters=4.39923966975e+26 meters per second (MFTL+, 1.467.428.399.999.975.936[1,46 quintillion] times of SoL)

MID-Mid end
Taking same distance but 0,013 seconds-
4.39923966975e+26÷0,013=3.38402974596e+28 meters per second (MFTL+, 112.879.082.033.477.976.000 [112,87 quintillion] times of SoL)

MID-High end
Same distance but 0,001 seconds-
4.39923966975e+26÷0,001=4.39923966975e+29 meters per second (MFTL+, 1.467.428.399.999.975.950.000 [1,46 Sextillion] times of SoL)

HIGH ENDS
{Of course using of time is useless here, so i'll just use assumes}

HIGH end 1-
The universe is infinite and whatever the time it takes for blade to hit is irrevelant, speed of attack is Infinity Speed

HIGH end 2-
The attack is beyond the causalty of the universe, because it is from Hyperspace which is out of causalty. Hyperspace is not just exceeding distance, energy and size but also time and other rules of universe since it is outside of causalty, and must have a time of its own. Moving in its own time and moving above the time flow of univers
e, the attack would be Immeasurable Speed.

Mmm, yeah this seems about right

 

[darkphantom9805]

Let’s go with the immeasurable speed option I like that one

 

[Jirenoffical]

Tried to calculate the speed of Dimensional Slash, correct or not there are the values i've calculated so far:

For every possiblty, will use 1 second (low end) 13 miliseconds (mid end) and 1 miliseconds (high end)

LOW End
Assuming it comes from where Void aims, which is sky.

MID End
Assuming it comes from edge of universe

HIGH End
Assuming the universe is infinite

1- LOW-Low END:
It's both from sky and happens in 1 second
Even though taking it as low as its from sky, i'll take it as the highest layer of sky, Exosphere, which has the top height of 3000km

For the Low end, assuming it happens in 1 second (which is literally impossible since Sonic and FF can't dodge it)- 3,000,000 meters per second (Hypersonic)

LOW-Mid end
Taking the same 3000km distance but 13 miliseconds-
3,000,000÷0,013=230,769,230.76923 meters per second(Relativistic+)

LOW-High end
Taking the same 3000km distance but 1 milisecond-
3,000,000÷0,001=3,000,000,000 meters per second (FTL+)

MID-Low end
Assuming its from the edge of universe (46.5 billion light-years: distance between earth and the edge of universe), in 1 second-
46.5 billion light years into meters=4.39923966975e+26 meters per second (MFTL+, 1.467.428.399.999.975.936[1,46 quintillion] times of SoL)

MID-Mid end
Taking same distance but 0,013 seconds-
4.39923966975e+26÷0,013=3.38402974596e+28 meters per second (MFTL+, 112.879.082.033.477.976.000 [112,87 quintillion] times of SoL)

MID-High end
Same distance but 0,001 seconds-
4.39923966975e+26÷0,001=4.39923966975e+29 meters per second (MFTL+, 1.467.428.399.999.975.950.000 [1,46 Sextillion] times of SoL)

HIGH ENDS
{Of course using of time is useless here, so i'll just use assumes}

HIGH end 1-
The universe is infinite and whatever the time it takes for blade to hit is irrevelant, speed of attack is Infinity Speed

HIGH end 2-
The attack is beyond the causalty of the universe, because it is from Hyperspace which is out of causalty. Hyperspace is not just exceeding distance, energy and size but also time and other rules of universe since it is outside of causalty, and must have a time of its own. Moving in its own time and moving above the time flow of univers
e, the attack would be Immeasurable Speed.

By the way, even if its completely okay with everyone we must wait for fight to completely end, Murata could show us the beginning point of it or something to calc it better

 

[Kin201]

I doubt that the speeds of MFTL+ or Infinite/Immeasurable will be accepted when the CRT is made. There will likely be lots users who present counterarguments, possibly stemming from outliers or misinterpretations.

Guess, I'll just watch from the sidelines with popcorn.

 

[Alexander]

I doubt that the speeds of MFTL+ or Infinite/Immeasurable will be accepted when the CRT is made. There will likely be lots users who present counterarguments, possibly stemming from outliers or misinterpretations.

Guess, I'll just watch from the sidelines with popcorn.

Outlier?what outlier?only Saitama scales, and he is always considered the strongest in the verse.

 

[Naeem0304]

HIGH end 2-
The attack is beyond the causalty of the universe, because it is from Hyperspace which is out of causalty. Hyperspace is not just exceeding distance, energy and size but also time and other rules of universe since it is outside of causalty, and must have a time of its own. Moving in its own time and moving above the time flow of univers
e, the attack would be Immeasurable Speed.

Along these lines... Zero Punch is technically immeasurable speed (doesn't scale to Saitama from the moment of usage) since the attack happened in negative numbers (which Infinite Speed requires zero time) and that was due to 'the Reversal of Causality'.

-and they can travel forward and backward in time at will." (In regards to Immeasurable Speed)

And Hyperspace is 'outside' the causality of the universes.

"It's merely a hypothesis based on the so-called parallel world or multiverse theory, but I suspect that this core came from one of the countless parallel worlds that diverged as a result of your actions. I do not know at what point this divergence occurs, when the observer makes a decision or when the observer takes action, but it has been confirmed that a new you separated from the original you at the start of your time travel, and merged with the you of this timeline when the moment was completed. The timing of the separation and merging may be a clue to the timing of when the parallel worlds split off. Back to what I was saying, in the future where this core comes from, I was killed by Garou. Even if you were holding back a lot, there is no way that you could have been defeated by Garou, no matter how many parallel worlds exist, and in fact, the events surrounding the core have made it clear that even if the worst outcome had occurred, with the death of me and all the other heroes right before your eyes, you would have transcended time and space to save us all. Your ability to transcend and manipulate the laws of causality is now proof positive of your completely flawless sense of heroism, as we've come to expect from you, master. As for the principles behind traveling backward in time, we can predict it would fall into one of the three scenarios. The first one is..."

1. I don't know how much clarity that Genos' theory has (even though Hyperspace does have parallel worlds), however, he states that 'the timing of the separation and mering may be a clue to the timing of when the parallel worlds split off'. I find this interesting because of this...

This implies that branching in Hyperspace (which Genos stated was possible through time-travel/non-linear movement) is bound to it's own form of causality beyond that of the normal universe. Time Travel 'causes' a branch (the cause is Time Travel, and the effect is a new timeline.)

I think that serves as good evidence for Hyperspace operating on it's own form of time/causality.

 

[Epiccheev]

Nah, it can't be accepted. All wank must be stored for Light novel and games.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Saitama performs the most blatant speed feats imaginable meanwhile GoW tiers with their crazy speed ratings be like

 

[Alexander]

Nah, it can't be accepted. All wank must be stored for Light novel and games.

I want a explanation

 

[Swagoorago]

I want a explanation

bleach , naruto and some other stuff

 

[ReusedOil]

I doubt that the speeds of MFTL+ or Infinite/Immeasurable will be accepted when the CRT is made. There will likely be lots users who present counterarguments, possibly stemming from outliers or misinterpretations.

Guess, I'll just watch from the sidelines with popcorn.

the feat itself is more in line with eosteric ability instead of physicals so it shouldn't be scaled to saitama's stats that could be compared to any previous showings, and seeing as how all saitama has shown in regards to said abilities is breaking into spiritual dimensions and interacting with dimensional objects, any counterarguments would have to prove that out of the previous two what saitama did in the last chap is an outlier.

 

[Worthless]

If we accept Dimensional Slash as a higherdimensional attack then the "ignore distance" in context could be referring to bypassing 3D through movement outside the three dimensional axis, which is why it appears instantaneous for Blast and the rest due to their perception being limited to 3D. And ss per the site rules, it's just pseudo teleportation rather than infinite or immeasurable speed.

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

Darkphantom has impeccable comedic timing I swear. One moment people are talking about something carefully and breaking down it's probabilities and then the very next he shows up and says "Let's go with that" and it's the most OP and outrageous thing you have ever laid your eyes on lol. Just totally blindsides you.

Also the fact it's Thanos adds a whole other layer to it. Could you imagine Thanos, THE Thanos being a regular in the VSBW community and he just likes the idea of a strong opponent and monitors other verses then gets insulted when people downplay whoever he deems a worthy opponent.

"OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY"

 

[Alexander]

If we accept Dimensional Slash as a higherdimensional attack then the "ignore distance" in context could be referring to bypassing 3D through movement outside the three dimensional axis, which is why it appears instantaneous. And ss per the site rules, it's just pseudo teleportation rather than infinite or immeasurable speed

Teleportation is a ability that works mostly for travel, it has nothing to do with attacking

 

[Alexander]

Darkphantom has impeccable comedic timing I swear. One moment people are talking about something carefully and breaking down it's probabilities and then the very next he shows up and says "Let's go with that" and it's the most OP and outrageous thing you have ever laid your eyes on lol. Just totally blindsides you.

Also the fact it's Thanos adds a whole other layer to it. Could you imagine Thanos, THE Thanos being a regular in the VSBW community and he just likes the idea of a strong opponent and monitors other verses then gets insulted when people downplay whoever he deems a worthy opponent.

Wow... what do you think about me?

 

[ReusedOil]

edit: I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT LET ME COOK

Wait, we might be looking at it the wrong way here. Instead of focusing on where the swords appeared or how fast it travells, lets instead consider what the sword's properties actually are. If we assume that the hyperverse dimension is outside the universe's causalty, and those swords carry over that ability instead of losing it once entering realspace... this means that any and all things that affect causalty, the swords simply ignore.

Time for example, affect causalty/a part of it. To say that time passed for the sword to travel, is to say that the causalty of the universe affected the swords.

Like yes we see the swords "moving", but we shouldn't think that for the sword, time is passing. Universe time doesn't apply to hyperspace. The swords are moving under their own "time". Like the swords could be moving at a snail's pace but from anyone elses perspective; real space; the swords move instantly.

Seeing as how we are once again talking about the validity of immeasurable speed

Bump

 

[Worthless]

@darkphantom9805 Catching it probably doesn't grant any new speed tier if you can sense/see movement beyond 3 dimensional axis. Infinite or immeasurable doesn't make sense anyway as long as this scene of Flashy Flash being able sense it coming doesn't get redrawn

 

[Naeem0304]

Darkphantom has impeccable comedic timing I swear. One moment people are talking about something carefully and breaking down it's probabilities and then the very next he shows up and says "Let's go with that" and it's the most OP and outrageous thing you have ever laid your eyes on lol. Just totally blindsides you.

Also the fact it's Thanos adds a whole other layer to it. Could you imagine Thanos, THE Thanos being a regular in the VSBW community and he just likes the idea of a strong opponent and monitors other verses then gets insulted when people downplay whoever he deems a worthy opponent.

"OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY"

To be fair, MCU Thanos is an Extraordinary Genius so he'd unironically be the smartest and brightest scaler on the entire site lol.

 

[Alexander]

@darkphantom9805 Catching it probably doesn't grant any new speed tier if you can sense/see movement beyond 3 dimensional axis. Infinite or immeasurable doesn't make sense anyway as long as this scene of Flashy Flash being able sense it coming doesn't get redrawn

Flashy didn't see the attack coming,he saw the slash coming (even then he didn't dodge it completely)
It is infinite/immeasurable for the fact that the sword negates distance and is outside the causality of the universe

 

[azizbengibi]

I believe that Dimension Slash should have infinite speed and Saitama should have infinite reaction/attack speed. This has been mentioned before, but here are my personal reasons for it:

When Empty Void attacks 3D beings within a 4D universe from outside the universe, it can be said that this attack possesses infinite speed. This is because Empty Void’s attack completely disregards distance, size, and energy to reach its target. As a being outside the universe, it is unaffected by the physical limitations of the 4D universe. This demonstrates that neither physical obstacles nor distance play any role in the attack’s journey to its target.

In physics, speed is defined as the distance traveled divided by time. However, in Empty Void’s attack, distance is not a factor. The attack occurs independently of the concept of distance, effectively reaching its target instantaneously. This bypasses physical notions of speed and inherently qualifies the attack as moving at infinite speed.

Empty Void’s ability to initiate an attack from outside the universe eliminates the need for physical transport due to the differences between dimensions. By overcoming limitations such as distance and energy loss, the attack reaches its target without encountering any physical barriers. In this case, the speed of the attack surpasses all physical definitions and is recognized as infinite.

In conclusion, Empty Void’s attacks from outside the universe completely nullify concepts such as distance, size, and energy, allowing them to reach their target at infinite speed.

And I think the attack initially appearing in the sky does not mean it took time to occur; it simply shows that Saitama perceived an infinite-speed attack and then reacted to stop it. Additionally, we can say the attack originated from the edge of the universe, but since it disregards concepts like distance, it reaches its target instantly. This is why it appears as if it started from the sky.

What are your thoughts, and do you think it can truly be considered infinite speed? If I am mistaken, please let me know.

 

[Alexander]

I believe that Dimension Slash should have infinite speed and Saitama should have infinite reaction/attack speed. This has been mentioned before, but here are my personal reasons for it:

When Empty Void attacks 3D beings within a 4D universe from outside the universe, it can be said that this attack possesses infinite speed. This is because Empty Void’s attack completely disregards distance, size, and energy to reach its target. As a being outside the universe, it is unaffected by the physical limitations of the 4D universe. This demonstrates that neither physical obstacles nor distance play any role in the attack’s journey to its target.

In physics, speed is defined as the distance traveled divided by time. However, in Empty Void’s attack, distance is not a factor. The attack occurs independently of the concept of distance, effectively reaching its target instantaneously. This bypasses physical notions of speed and inherently qualifies the attack as moving at infinite speed.

Empty Void’s ability to initiate an attack from outside the universe eliminates the need for physical transport due to the differences between dimensions. By overcoming limitations such as distance and energy loss, the attack reaches its target without encountering any physical barriers. In this case, the speed of the attack surpasses all physical definitions and is recognized as infinite.

In conclusion, Empty Void’s attacks from outside the universe completely nullify concepts such as distance, size, and energy, allowing them to reach their target at infinite speed.

And I think the attack initially appearing in the sky does not mean it took time to occur; it simply shows that Saitama perceived an infinite-speed attack and then reacted to stop it. Additionally, we can say the attack originated from the edge of the universe, but since it disregards concepts like distance, it reaches its target instantly. This is why it appears as if it started from the sky.

What are your thoughts, and do you think it can truly be considered infinite speed? If I am mistaken, please let me know.

Sounds good

 

[Worthless]

Flashy didn't see the attack coming,he saw the slash coming (even then he didn't dodge it completely)
It is infinite/immeasurable for the fact that the sword negates distance and is outside the causality of the universe

He didn't see it, yes, but he sensed it coming before it landed. With this massive anti feat it's hard to fully believe with it having infinite speed. nevermind here

Pseudo-Teleportation: Higher-dimensional entities may be capable of seemingly phasing in and out of sight by moving through additional axes imperceptible to lower-dimensional beings, granting them a notable advantage in overall range and mobility.

 

[Alexander]

He didn't see it, yes, but he sensed it coming before it landed. With this massive anti feat it's hard to fully believe with it having infinite speed. nevermind here

We don't know if Flashy sense it, he Probably just realized that the attack was coming because Blast told him about it (again, he still didn't dodge it unharmed, the attack was not even against him, it was for Sonic).

 

[ReusedOil]

I believe that Dimension Slash should have infinite speed and Saitama should have infinite reaction/attack speed. This has been mentioned before, but here are my personal reasons for it:

When Empty Void attacks 3D beings within a 4D universe from outside the universe, it can be said that this attack possesses infinite speed. This is because Empty Void’s attack completely disregards distance, size, and energy to reach its target. As a being outside the universe, it is unaffected by the physical limitations of the 4D universe. This demonstrates that neither physical obstacles nor distance play any role in the attack’s journey to its target.

In physics, speed is defined as the distance traveled divided by time. However, in Empty Void’s attack, distance is not a factor. The attack occurs independently of the concept of distance, effectively reaching its target instantaneously. This bypasses physical notions of speed and inherently qualifies the attack as moving at infinite speed.

Empty Void’s ability to initiate an attack from outside the universe eliminates the need for physical transport due to the differences between dimensions. By overcoming limitations such as distance and energy loss, the attack reaches its target without encountering any physical barriers. In this case, the speed of the attack surpasses all physical definitions and is recognized as infinite.

In conclusion, Empty Void’s attacks from outside the universe completely nullify concepts such as distance, size, and energy, allowing them to reach their target at infinite speed.

And I think the attack initially appearing in the sky does not mean it took time to occur; it simply shows that Saitama perceived an infinite-speed attack and then reacted to stop it. Additionally, we can say the attack originated from the edge of the universe, but since it disregards concepts like distance, it reaches its target instantly. This is why it appears as if it started from the sky.

What are your thoughts, and do you think it can truly be considered infinite speed? If I am mistaken, please let me know.

This should be limited to when saitama encounters immeasurable speed due to eosteric ability, instead of scaling to his physicals. Like a seperate thing to his stats

 

[MrTayman616]

LOW End
Assuming it comes from where Void aims, which is sky.

For landing timeframe (Cloud version), why not just use speed of light reaction speed based on Flashy Flash, where it's stated he can move at the speed of light supported by feats as well? It should land at least faster than Flash's reaction i think.

 

[Jirenoffical]

Along these lines... Zero Punch is technically immeasurable speed (doesn't scale to Saitama from the moment of usage) since the attack happened in negative numbers (which Infinite Speed requires zero time) and that was due to 'the Reversal of Causality'.

And Hyperspace is 'outside' the causality of the universes.

1. I don't know how much clarity that Genos' theory has (even though Hyperspace does have parallel worlds), however, he states that 'the timing of the separation and mering may be a clue to the timing of when the parallel worlds split off'. I find this interesting because of this...

This implies that branching in Hyperspace (which Genos stated was possible through time-travel/non-linear movement) is bound to it's own form of causality beyond that of the normal universe. Time Travel 'causes' a branch (the cause is Time Travel, and the effect is a new timeline.)

I think that serves as good evidence for Hyperspace operating on it's own form of time/causality.

Agreed, even if they find the statements and feats to be not enough to claim, giving them infinity or immesuarable speed still makes sense. I am okay with 112,87 quintillion or 1,46 sextillion times ftl though.

 

[Alexander]

This should be limited to when saitama encounters immeasurable speed due to eosteric ability, instead of scaling to his physicals. Like a seperate thing to his stats

Saitama does most of his stuff with physical means, even if they are supernatural, he still does physical thing (except a few)

 

[Worthless]

We don't know if Flashy sense it, he Probably just realized that the attack was coming because Blast told him about it (again, he still didn't dodge it unharmed, the attack was not even against him, it was for Sonic).

Blast didn't told him, he sense it on his own and well yah, he can't dodge it because it's traveling through dimension beyond 3D space