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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Naeem0304
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Anyways, causality
- Garou is capable of copying people's abilities due to "Shakkei" or borrowing energy from rifts in the wind. It completely caught Blast off guard, although he wasn't trying to fight all-out (his strategy was to push Garou into an alternate dimension before evacuating the Earth.)
- And you're forgetting that Blasts' darkness abilities seal God's powers; Garou already had darkness (as per Void) + near-instant copying so it's no wonder why he did so well.
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He did not and the had it in the bag was because hax which nullifies voids powers the second his nullification didn’t work he was cooked
Naeem0304
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I don't get the fraud allegations. Blast was legit clapping Void for the last couple of chapters without trying to kill, but now we're switching up on the fraud charges? Crazy. Sonic screwed it up with the attempted exploding kunai to Void's eyes (this almost reminds me of Star-Lord messing up the plan in Infinity War, lol.)
But anyways, Void getting darkness powers threw everything off because according to Blast, that hadn't been a thing before that point (Blast wouldn't have known about Garou's since their fight didn't happen in the past timeline.)
It's hard to expect more of Blast when the dude wants to bring his friend back, others are holding him back (like FF and Sonic interfering), AND Void just learns how to counter Blasts' gimmicks.
Naeem0304
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This man gets it.
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bro, even the most logic explanation would still be a shit, i’m not saying that you are wrong
i’m just saying that blast’s character has been completely ruined, he is having genos’s treatment, we know that he is going to be cool at the beggining of the fight just to be randomly fodderized by his opponent
i doubt anyone here thought that Blast EVER HAD a chance on EV or Garou, and this just does not feels right.
Murata held Tatsumaki’s full power till the blink of death, he couldve done the same to Blast
Naeem0304
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- Just give the man a chance, lol. He hasn't shown the tenacity or desire to kill any of the people he's fought so far (ex. CS Garou and Empty Void) and who knows how much he's limited by since he's fighting on Earth. Watch how the dude takes a complete 360 on ability showcase once he's fighting in some alternate dimension.
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blast being forced to use his MAXIMUM output just to shine just proofs my point, he is weak compared to the others.
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look at HOW GOOD Tatsumaki’s character was settle in the manga.
We never had the feeling that she was going to lose a fight till psykos and even then we knew that tatsumaki’s was holding back, and even now the fanbase respects her power
in blast’s situation, 90% of the readers were waiting for saitama to appear and save the day, CMON BRO, borosbros genuinely thinks that blast is as strong as Boros and i cant blame them
We never had the feeling that she was going to lose a fight till psykos and even then we knew that tatsumaki’s was holding back, and even now the fanbase respects her power
in blast’s situation, 90% of the readers were waiting for saitama to appear and save the day, CMON BRO, borosbros genuinely thinks that blast is as strong as Boros and i cant blame them
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disagrees that i disproved it, provides no explanation. You are contributing nothing to this dicussion thread. Youre not even discussing, just making general statements
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didnt you shut up already? i aint stopping my comments just because you dont like it, just disappear from my sight.
can’t handle those guys who thinks that the world spins around them
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Coom wants to be tatsumaki so bad
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Thanks for confirming your value to this discussion. Have a good day
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dont tell them my secret dumbass
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On topic of blast's abilities, could the power of gravity knuckle be estimated by how much gravity it would take to suck up an atomic explosion almost the size of jupiter's moon, in under a second? As in how much force does it take?
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Unfortunately we don't know for sure what gravity knuckle is in scientific terms. Neutron star type gravity acceleration? A miniature black hole? Something... uh, else?
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is it important to identify it or can we do with simply calculating for how much force it took to achieve the feat? The timeframe is right there and sos the effect. One moment, the explosion, a second later the energy is compressed. Seemingly instantly, because what is shown to be sucked up is just the dust and debri. It was so quick it didnt even show up in the panel lol
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Well we can't use the Jupiter reference since that was post serious punch squared Garou, and we assume here that after copying all his stats got boosted. You can't scale Blast to those results narratively or in a calc since that gravity knuckle should be considerably stronger on both accounts
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a guy here just mentioned garou’s being inside of a black hole being a feat of resistance
if that’s true, shouldn’t also be a lifting strenght feat? i mean, just by the fact that he could stand still inside of it without being dropped into the ground just like tatsumaki vs gyoro gyoro or being compressed into meatball
im not very good at physics at all
or he was unaffected just because he was the one casting the move?
if that’s true, shouldn’t also be a lifting strenght feat? i mean, just by the fact that he could stand still inside of it without being dropped into the ground just like tatsumaki vs gyoro gyoro or being compressed into meatball
im not very good at physics at all
or he was unaffected just because he was the one casting the move?
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Oh sorry i wasn't tryna scale. Just wanted to see how much gravity, is gravity knuckle capable of generating, and thought garou's feat seemed like a good basis in identifying something quantifiable
That being said ...it is possible right? And if it is, pretty please can anyone who isn't dumb like me do it? :3
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we might be looking at it the wrong way here. Instead of focusing on where the swords appeared or how fast it travells, lets instead consider what the sword's properties actually are. If we assume that the hyperverse dimension is outside the universe's causalty, and those swords carry over that ability instead of losing it once entering realspace... this means that any and all things that affect causalty, the swords simply ignore.
Time for example, affect causalty/a part of it. To say that time passed for the sword to travel, is to say that the causalty of the universe affected the swords.
Like yes we see the swords "moving", but we shouldn't think that for the sword, time is passing. Universe time doesn't apply to hyperspace. The swords are moving under their own "time". Like the swords could be moving at a snail's pace but from anyone elses perspective; real space; the swords move instantly.
Time for example, affect causalty/a part of it. To say that time passed for the sword to travel, is to say that the causalty of the universe affected the swords.
Like yes we see the swords "moving", but we shouldn't think that for the sword, time is passing. Universe time doesn't apply to hyperspace. The swords are moving under their own "time". Like the swords could be moving at a snail's pace but from anyone elses perspective; real space; the swords move instantly.
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Yeah that is more like a common fictional problem, it is hard to show how fast something truly is without making it seem slow...like with Flash, Flash time travels, but he still feels slow or not instant while traveling in time
Naeem0304
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1. Good question; I'll look into it.
Naeem0304
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The actual size of the Nuclear Fission explosion is about 900 kilometers in diameter (credits to this reddit post.)
450,000^3*((27136*20+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)= 4.3 Petatons (Continental+)
Using a Joules-PSI converter, I got 3.006817054795015e+24 Metric Tons (Class Y)
Lastly, in a Gravitational Force calculator I got a result of 744,921,084,021,728,189,474,437,488,181,248 Newtons or 7.596081067E+28 Metric Tons/Pre-Stellar for Garou's Gravity Knuckle (before Saitama's Serious Table Flip.)
Assuming we plugged the 18.1904761x stat-boost that Garou got, then you get 1.3817633e+30 Metric Tons (Stellar) (Post-IO)
I don't know how right or wrong this is, but it'd scale a decent bit above his normal Lifting Strength (which makes some sense. Also FYI, this only scales to Garou.)
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because the OPM fan base is composed off:
Mostly horny people, mostly good artists and animators, mostly powerscalers and if you combine them, you have this
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yeah this makes more sense
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Um is it just me or did you just copy and pasted my theory, word for word? Exact wording, exact phrasing. Literally not one difference
Like ???
You know you could have just quoted it right?
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If void is in full control of the bubble's perspectives, then theoretically he can just zoom in towards the insides of someone and do a dimensional slash there lol
Either he doesn't do it because he cant fully manipulate the perspectives, or there literally is no point. When you swing a sword that instantly reaches the target, it doesnt really matter whether you start on the target, or from faraway.
All the other times he did do it even when blast could dodge with teleportation which a dimensional slash from the inside would have stopped, was when void didnt want blast dead. The last dimensional slash intended to kill blast is when he couldn't dodge so no point zooming in his insides.
Either he doesn't do it because he cant fully manipulate the perspectives, or there literally is no point. When you swing a sword that instantly reaches the target, it doesnt really matter whether you start on the target, or from faraway.
All the other times he did do it even when blast could dodge with teleportation which a dimensional slash from the inside would have stopped, was when void didnt want blast dead. The last dimensional slash intended to kill blast is when he couldn't dodge so no point zooming in his insides.
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AmongUsAboveUsBelow
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I want someone to make a meme of the sword going from the edge of the universe all the way to where Saitama is located but keep the exact measurements we see in the last chapter. So that when looked at from afar it's a long and thin noodle crossing the vastness of space with Void and Saitama looking like cute stick figures. Maybe more detailed than that, eh you get the point.
Oh and while at it, have Saitama bend over and clench his cheeks to grab it.
Oh and while at it, have Saitama bend over and clench his cheeks to grab it.
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Much thanks for the effort.
now about the result, in determining the actual strength behind gravity knuckle, wouldn't it be (stellar) attack potency + garou's own strength? Its technically just a buff to attacks
Ah but wait, do we have to include the momentum produced by the gravitational pull upon the subject? How fast is saitama getting attracted by apparently stellar forces of gravity and the force produced when crashing into garou's fist at that speed?
So its more like, stellar attack potency + stellar produced momentum + garou's own strength.
Huh. Gravity kunckle sounds a lot more dangerous now
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tatsumaki's nickname after a few more chapters
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