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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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no. nothing happening on the profiles till this battle / mini arc finishes.
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Anyway, is there a possibility to give Saitama resistance to causality manipulation?
At the end of his fight with Garou we all know that he travelled back in time, defying the law of causality, ecc...
Then due to causality he fused with his past self, but Genos's core did not and that's probably because of Saitama's will to protect it that it didn't fuse with past Genos's core, just saying. I don't know if this may be valid or not or if someone already said the same thing before I did
At the end of his fight with Garou we all know that he travelled back in time, defying the law of causality, ecc...
Then due to causality he fused with his past self, but Genos's core did not and that's probably because of Saitama's will to protect it that it didn't fuse with past Genos's core, just saying. I don't know if this may be valid or not or if someone already said the same thing before I did
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I still have hope for the bird version.
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This hyperverse property is actually really weird cause like, if someone from that dimension were to interact with realspace like void did and instead of swords stuck a seed for a tree instead and waited for it to grow, for the duration of that seed's growth until it grew into a fully grown tree, in realspace no time has passed at all. The concept is absolutely bonkersHeres a model of how I think it works
"Anything however long can happen" in comparison to how much time passed in realspace, which is to say, none at all.
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We also know that avatars of god always have a "protect the earth" and "humans are parasites" mentality, as if they represent "mother nature" itself. What I mean is - even if void could easily just cut the universe in half, he won't. For some reason, god wants to protect earth and that desire might extend to other things in the universe. We also know that Garou wasn't fully under control, which could explain the amount of damage he caused (while Void is, at least currently, causing a lot less and barely affecting earth in comparison).
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Check my previous response to Sparkive, I believe it answers your question.
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Might be wrong but considering how we saw the multiverse in the hyperspace, Genos's explanation, The statement of how God's power can ignore distance, energy and size and how zero punch is God's power as well. If Saitama was in the hyperspace and watching the divergence of the timelines here caused by his movement backwards in time (Also he was still hearing things correctly like how Void did.), If those bubbles are universes (diverged timelines) same as how Empty Void views them, Dimensional Slash while landing might have infinite speed since like Saitama's punch, It should just appear there.
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There are two possibilities there.
1. It's Murata's way of giving Void a flashy introduction and everything we see is visual fluff, while in reality he's just shirtless and dealing with a temporary awakening that shows us what's to come.
2. It really is a new form. In which case, should the current one really be called cosmic or is it more like an impure form like the one CF Garou had?
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How does this prove anything…? Those blips in the sky disappear after being shot down, it’s not comparable to what happened in the latest chapterFor anyone who thinks the twinkle in the sky saitama saw is a some kind of portal for dimension slash
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He was defying the law of causality via time manipulation to be fair. Do we just give any character with time manipulation/time travel causality manipulation??
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They are exactly the same
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They’re not… One varies in size heavily because of the light it gives off and the twinkles disappear after reaching earth. And the other doesn’t disappear and its size doesn’t change at all.
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They look exactly the same I think you just see things differently an attempt to lowball
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Unless there is proof for it (Time Eater is a example)
Also put yourself a profile picture, it is complicated to differentiate you from Worthless
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it disappers when the sword reaches the bottom (like, the other sword has no twinkle at all)
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I’m not trying to lowball. I’m saying that its ridiculous to say that these two things are the same because they “look” the same when they happen because of 2 different things. When you look at Chapter 209, the “twinkle” is STILL THERE despite the sword being gone AND the fact that, like I said before, the earth would be destroyed if he was falling at such speeds.- 83
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Just read my name.
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This is one of those things were we could show you anything and you’ll say anything to lowball it it could be the most plain as day feat and you’ll deny and lowball
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It didn’t disappear when EV was falling. You already conceded on this discussion, you have no more say on this.
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Sorry to interrupt your back and forth but would you mind doing a quick sketch? You can use the panels for comparison, do a side by side of all the relevant ones and then point to the details to better demonstrate what you're trying to say. I think it would cut down on time and save all participating parties from additional stress.
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I just gave you a logical reason as to why I don’t accept the same view as you and you decide to insult me and call me ignorant….great. It feels nice being a hypocrite (you’re being ignorant as well)
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I already explained it to them but they just don’t care. Nobody here is going to explain how:
• The earth isn’t destroyed from EV’s fall
• How he fell from the hole in the sky
• or why the twinkle is still there despite the sword being gone.
Its just useless at this point when they won’t give me an answer lmao.
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Did you say empty void fell lol is this a joke he didn’t fall Saitama pulled him no wonder you were trying to lowball this
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Fair enough.
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he did fall… Like I said before on this thread, Saitama tugged on his blades, which was strong enough to pull EV back in. If Saitama was constantly tugging EV towards him he would fall somewhere near the forest or just directly at Saitama. Even if we were to go with your explaination, the chapter shows that HE DID falll. What are those lines for? To indicate where the air was blowing when Saitama was pulling him?
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If none of you are going to give me an actual answer, its best that we conclude this
I’m just talking to walls at this point.
I’m just talking to walls at this point.
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He didn’t fall did you even read the manga?
You can literally see the blade still in his hand as he’s being pulled out of hyperspace that means saitama is actively tugging on them until he gets dragged out he literally can’t fall inside of hyperspace the man can float/fly once he’s inside he’s not standing on an edge where one tug falls him he’s floating in the middle of a void and actively trying to resist
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Is it really THIS hard to explain what these lines are for in this panel???
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Saitama wasn’t actively tugging on them. A great enough force can put enough work to actively counteract the other face pulling the other way. This is how tug of war works in 2nd grade dude. Saitama’s strength >>>>> EV’s strength so of course it wouldn’t take much. You can even see he was barely trying.He didn’t fall did you even read the manga?
You can literally see the blade still in his hand as he’s being pulled out of hyperspace that means saitama is actively tugging on them until he gets dragged out he literally can’t fall inside of hyperspace the man can float/fly once he’s inside he’s not standing on an edge where one tug falls him he’s floating in the middle of a void and actively trying to resist
If he didn’t fall, again, explain THOSE LINES. What are those meant to represent? Why did EV go near Blast and the ninja duo when he was pulled towards Saitama?
I never said he was falling in hyperspace, I said he falls when he exits.
But even then. How would you explain the CRASH empty void commits. If Empty Void NEVER FALLS, why does he make a crater? That requires gravity to happen unless you’re saying EV actively flew towards that spot and hurt himself.
This argument is super dumb and I’m just gonna end it now
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If you're by some chance referring to these two instances of it, how do we know those two twinkles are meant to represent the same thing? Could it just be the reflection of the sword approaching and later a second one that points to Void's ejection. Considering such twinkles were previously used to represent moving projectiles it wouldn't be out of the question that it's nothing more than that.
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Wizard. How can you even prove those are same twinkles? They are literally 2 different twinkles, one shined when Blade was landing on Saitama, the other one shined when Void entered the universe. They're located in different places which confirmes that.
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What do you mean??? Im not saying they’re the same. THESE GUYS are saying they are.
I’ve been actively AGAINST this
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Also they aren't even same size. You could say its because the difference in distance but i don't think it works like that on something that big.
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Even the clouds around them are different. Dawg.
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Wrong and head canon saitama was actively tugging on them which is how he got the swords in the first place he pulled the swords until they got into his own hands saitama barely trying is irrelevant that’s just the massive strength difference between the, nothing debunks him being pulled in fact the he was falling is entirely contradicted and disproven in the manga the blade was still in voids hand as he was being pulled this means that despite saitama pulling he still hasn’t let go of the blade meaning the force that’s causing him to leave hyperspace is Saitama pulling him and was that until he let go which is after leaving hyperspace
What lines you mean the lines that literally show him being pulled out of hyperspace after he enters the main world the fact he didn’t let go of the swords means the only force pulling before leaving was Saitama pulling him
he makes a crater because how much strength was pulling void saitama was tugging on the sword voids is pulled out of hyperspace void let’s go of the sword void is pulled to the ground at immense speed due to the force that saitama pulled him before falling him
It’s super dumb that your just saying nonsense to deny simple on panel facts saitama pulled void void got pulled out of hyperspace void lets go of the swords void flys into the ground
Saitama was pulling him until he let go end of discussion
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I'm not talking about the fact he travelled back in time, but the fact that by keeping Genos's core in his hand he was able to not make it fuse with its past self, while he himself fused with his past self
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Unless you’re NOT referring to the lasers panel
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So you guys are referring to this. My bad.If you're by some chance referring to these two instances of it, how do we know those two twinkles are meant to represent the same thing? Could it just be the reflection of the sword approaching and later a second one that points to Void's ejection. Considering such twinkles were previously used to represent moving projectiles it wouldn't be out of the question that it's nothing more than that.
They’re the same because its the same rip in space. It can’t be different because what happens to Void would literally cause the end of the world. Traveling at MFTL+ speeds towards the earth from such a FAR distance would literally be greater than its GBE.
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