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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

ReusedOil said:
edit: I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT LET ME COOK

Wait, we might be looking at it the wrong way here. Instead of focusing on where the swords appeared or how fast it travells, lets instead consider what the sword's properties actually are. If we assume that the hyperverse dimension is outside the universe's causalty, and those swords carry over that ability instead of losing it once entering realspace... this means that any and all things that affect causalty, the swords simply ignore.

Time for example, affect causalty/a part of it. To say that time passed for the sword to travel, is to say that the causalty of the universe affected the swords.

Like yes we see the swords "moving", but we shouldn't think that for the sword, time is passing. Universe time doesn't apply to hyperspace. The swords are moving under their own "time". Like the swords could be moving at a snail's pace but from anyone elses perspective; real space; the swords move instantly.
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Um can anyone share their thoughts on this?

Edit: to add to this, my theory is only further supported by the simple fact that the swords are shown to cut space, and presumably occupies said space with the properties of being "outside the causalty of the universe". If space is where time takes place, "space" being essentially a multitude of factors such as gravity and etc that determines how time flows, what then could it mean for the swords that ignores all that?
 
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Ped2018 said:
DAMAGE, STOP THE SAITAMA WANK AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
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The big boss, the one immune to wanks
 
ReusedOil said:
Um can anyone share their thoughts on this?
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I kind of alluded to this with my time dilation mention. So, I'm inclined to agree. I would just like a clarification on what "moving instantly" means in this context. Like does it encompass it's spawn, extension AND swing trajectory equally?

Also, anybody else picturing Asura's Wrath long sword fight on steroids right now?
 
It has been demonstrated that Void's swords retain their constant size properties. Therefore, the assumption that the sword exited the atmosphere makes sense. If it were truly capable of spanning the distance from Earth to the edge of the universe, it would have to be immensely large in its normal size.
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AmongUsAboveUsBelow said:
I kind of alluded to this with my time dilation mention. So, I'm inclined to agree. I would just like a clarification on what "moving instantly" means in this context. Like does it encompass it's spawn, extension AND swing trajectory equally?

Also, anybody else picturing Asura's Wrath long sword fight on steroids right now?
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i assume it encompasses allat. Cause unless the swords cut space ONLY when swung and are actually a physical construct that occupies space like an everyday object subject to the causalty of the universe, then someone would have to prove that all interacting with earth from a higher dimension does, is changing the size and enchants the sword's edge to cut space, and totally not changing any of the sword's properties whatsoever.

Also I added more of my thoughts on the post you quoted
 
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Kulf_Boba said:
It has been demonstrated that Void's swords retain their constant size properties. Therefore, the assumption that the sword exited the atmosphere makes sense. If it were truly capable of spanning the distance from Earth to the edge of the universe, it would have to be immensely large in its normal size.
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I get the feeling that TikTok creators implant this weird interpretation on them because there’s no way their first thought upon seeing this was that it came from the very edge of the universe, unless these people don't watch anime very often then I can understand why they would have that thought, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. It's more or less like this.
 
Worthless said:
I get the feeling that TikTok creators implant this weird interpretation on them because there’s no way their first thought upon seeing this was that it came from the very edge of the universe, unless these people don't watch anime very often then I can understand why they would have that thought, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. It's more or less like this.
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What an unnecessarily rude thing to say. The slashes were drawn somewhat inconsistently and the hole is never explicitly shown on the other side, aside from that one glint in the sky. People are going to accidentally high ball/low ball it. It's to be expected. It's got nothing to do with anime literacy or TikTok.

In fact, try comparing that to being panel and manga literate. They're two different mediums for a reason.
 
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Asking again because had no answer from y'all previous time. DS is a 4d, maybe even 5d attack, which means Void's sword becomes 4/5d in the Hyperspace, and when Saitama pulls him back to universe, blade is back to 3d. Is it just because it left Hyperspace? Or would it grant Saitama any kind of hax to turn it back to 3d form? Because i don't think anything stops Swords staying same size within the universe.
 
Jirenoffical said:
Asking again because had no answer from y'all previous time. DS is a 4d, maybe even 5d attack, which means Void's sword becomes 4/5d in the Hyperspace, and when Saitama pulls him back to universe, blade is back to 3d. Is it just because it left Hyperspace? Or would it grant Saitama any kind of hax to turn it back to 3d form? Because i don't think anything stops Swords staying same size within the universe.
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Immersion or probably dimensional manipulation
 
ReusedOil said:
Um can anyone share their thoughts on this?

Edit: to add to this, my theory is only further supported by the simple fact that the swords are shown to cut space, and presumably occupies said space with the properties of being "outside the causalty of the universe". If space is where time takes place, "space" being essentially a multitude of factors such as gravity and etc that determines how time flows, what then could it mean for the swords that ignores all that?
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Heres a model of how I think it works


"Anything however long can happen" in comparison to how much time passed in realspace, which is to say, none at all.
 
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Jirenoffical said:
Asking again because had no answer from y'all previous time. DS is a 4d, maybe even 5d attack, which means Void's sword becomes 4/5d in the Hyperspace, and when Saitama pulls him back to universe, blade is back to 3d. Is it just because it left Hyperspace? Or would it grant Saitama any kind of hax to turn it back to 3d form? Because i don't think anything stops Swords staying same size within the universe.
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I think the blade is 4D/5D (whichever you prefer) while the hilt and/or Void are in the hyperspace, once they are brought back into the universe they return being normal blades like the owner goes back to his original form

Saitama just pulls them back inside, no hax, only strength
 
Also just made a theory, I don't even know if it makes sense or not, but it's the only thing that fits with what happened in my opinion...

So, we know Blast is able to create 2d shaped portals without clashing his hands, and 3d ones with clashing. They probably work different than each other. Void said he couldn't dodge DS without clashing his hands.

As much as we know, 3d portals are more like instant teleportation while 2d ones grants you to move in it to travel by them.

We can assume Blast has mastered his clashing fists way of teleportation on a level that he could even do it before DS hits him. He also used it when Serious Punch² was happening, he also was faster than this clash. So, his reaction speed and the speed of clashing his fists could scale to the speed of Dimension Slash, whether it is considered as mftl+ or as infinity speed.

I still don't see any opposite feat that says DS is not infinity speed other than Blast is able to dodge it via portals.

https://cubari dot moe/read/imgur/jStgOR0/1/17/ (last 2 panels): Dimensional Slash lands on earth, everything is already cut just as Blast is teleported.

No character in the series able to dodge it other than Blast with clashing his fists (and Saitama of course).

And for why Blast can't dodge with 2d shaped portals is because this requires him to move, Blast isn't fast enough in movement speed to dodge DS. So he must clash his fists to use instant teleportation.

Edit: Even if its all nonsense, Blast could get instant teleportation with clashing his hands, if doesn't have already.
 
Jirenoffical said:
Also just made a theory, I don't even know if it makes sense or not, but it's the only thing that fits with what happened in my opinion...



So, we know Blast is able to create 2d shaped portals without clashing his hands, and 3d ones with clashing. They probably work different than each other. Void said he couldn't dodge DS without clashing his hands.



As much as we know, 3d portals are more like instant teleportation while 2d ones grants you to move in it to travel by them.



We can assume Blast has mastered his clashing fists way of teleportation on a level that he could even do it before DS hits him. He also used it when Serious Punch² was happening, he also was faster than this clash. So, his reaction speed and the speed of clashing his fists could scale to the speed of Dimension Slash, whether it is considered as mftl+ or as infinity speed.



I still don't see any opposite feat that says DS is not infinity speed other than Blast is able to dodge it via portals.

https://cubari dot moe/read/imgur/jStgOR0/1/17/ (last 2 panels): Dimensional Slash lands on earth, everything is already cut just as Blast is teleported.

No character in the series able to dodge it other than Blast with clashing his fists (and Saitama of course).

And for why Blast can't dodge with 2d shaped portals is because this requires him to move, Blast isn't fast enough in movement speed to dodge DS. So he must clash his fists to use instant teleportation.
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The process of him Clashing his hands might also be him accessing hyperspace (or something like it) properties, granting him the ability to act outside time. Thats why, even with saitama and garou going all out with serious punch squared, blast who was shown to be more or less equal to a weaker garou was able to clash his hands before both their fists, inches away, met. Youre right, it really is like the dimensional slash
 
Redcated said:
Something i notice in the latest chapter

Void is in the middle of teleportation
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And blast intercept him
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Wow look, another evidence to support my theory lol

someone catching up to instant teleportation, because their powers follow the dimension slash principle, that being its outside time.
 
Wardokman69 said:
Hey Phoenks, shouldn't the time Saitama pulled down EV to Earth scaled to 1.3 milisecond or something? Seems like Blast and the others also unable to track Void and only realized when he appeared in the surface?
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Why 1.3ms and not 0.1 ms? Garou was able to act in that timeframe while fighting PS.

It was the entire fight that took 1.3ms, not just 1 action. They fought and travelled a long distance in 0.1ms
 
The speed of Void is HIGH MFTL++++++ to infinite speed from the perspective of a 3D being, it's a fact since Void is moving his swords from a 4D space to a 3D space.
So, even if anyone says that the sword once in the 3D space start at the atmosphere instead of the edge of the 3D space , it doesn't change that nature of the speed feat from the perspective of a 3D being.
Think about 2 characters with the same level of infinite speed racing against each other, they have to cross the observable universe, the first one move to total distance and the second will go through a portal that leads to the end of the observable universe after 1km.
The way to measure Void speed is using the 4D space since you can't use 3D logic to Void movement.
 
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JustANormalPerson01 said:
Why 1.3ms and not 0.1 ms? Garou was able to act in that timeframe while fighting PS.

It was the entire fight that took 1.3ms, not just 1 action. They fought and travelled a long distance in 0.1ms
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It doesn't really matter. I forgot how fast they're moving. What I said is it's takes less than 1 second. It should be the bare minimum of lowball for the feat of Saitama pulling EV from higher dimension to the surface of Earth.
 
I have a feeling the fight is basically over at this point. With Empty Voids losing his swords we may not even get much more context for the Hyperspace or anything either.

Donno where this will go from here. Maybe Void just escapes into Hyperspace and that's the end of it.
 
Phoenks said:
I have a feeling the fight is basically over at this point. With Empty Voids losing his swords we may not even get much more context for the Hyperspace or anything either.

Donno where this will go from here. Maybe Void just escapes into Hyperspace and that's the end of it.
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Void will hit them with Dimensional Punch 👀
 
Phoenks said:
I have a feeling the fight is basically over at this point. With Empty Voids losing his swords we may not even get much more context for the Hyperspace or anything either.

Donno where this will go from here. Maybe Void just escapes into Hyperspace and that's the end of it.
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Any plan to upgrade soon?
 
Wardokman69 said:
It doesn't really matter. I forgot how fast they're moving. What I said is it's takes less than 1 second. It should be the bare minimum of lowball for the feat of Saitama pulling EV from higher dimension to the surface of Earth.
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Yeah, but for vs matches without speed equalized it'd matter
 
AmongUsAboveUsBelow said:
I kind of alluded to this with my time dilation mention. So, I'm inclined to agree. I would just like a clarification on what "moving instantly" means in this context. Like does it encompass it's spawn, extension AND swing trajectory equally?

Also, anybody else picturing Asura's Wrath long sword fight on steroids right now?
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Yes, that exactly
 
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