However, im not saying when Saitama lands towards something or Garou or EV or whoever, they should show DC, but it is IMPORTANT to consider to logicality of the feat down, otherwise we will dismiss it as such and not ignore it as fiction being fiction
It could actually be a lot simpler, if you're gonna go down that route. Saitama has mastered his movements to such a high degree, he can control the extent of his shockwaves. He's already been shown to do similar stuff in the past like redirection and expertly pulled punches.O really then do we know enough about this punch that sent garou from space down the the surface of the earth and cracked his shell his face and had him bleeding and this is canonically the strongest punch saitama has ever done post IO and left garou bleeding and cracked up
Like there was absolutely no reason for your reply when you know I’m right
again this is pointless to argue dc isn’t an argument in OPM lol I don’t need to bring up how many characters attacks cause very little environmental damage
I already brought up VERY good points on how it would make no sense for EV to just..land from the edge of the universe and him ending up crashing a few meters in the ground.
just an example. I mean like it doesn't cause the DC it should cause. Like they can control how strong the impact will be even when they move at MFTL speeds.
Empty Void is not allowed to destroy the planet though, or anything similar.
He can’t do anything of that sort saitama can’t actually control his shock waves nor is that stated he just punches and holds back that’s it either way your wrong dc and Ap aren’t the same there isn’t much of an argument here
Do you think he has any control of him falling, practically instantaneously??? It doesn’t matter if hes not allowed or that he doesn’t want to, what happened to EV if we went with this interpretation would’ve realistically destroyed it. This doesn’t mean EV destroyed the earth Lmao, it was what happened to him that did it
Is this a joke or did you actually just reply with this? like dude just stop your arguments get worse and worse the guy who has enough power to evaporate the planet 100 times over punches garou with enough strength to one shot him does absolutely 0 environmental damage and sends him 5 feet there is no basic physics DC and Ap aren’t the same get over it that’s how it is it’s like that in 99.8% fictional media cosmic characters attack’s causing little environmental damage
It’s relevant because it debunks your argument of why they didn’t destroy planets at those speed because it’s plot the same reason most of fiction doesn’t show that stuff nor DC it’s never consistent and never will be it’s hard to tell a story if the environment is constantly being destroyed form every attack
OOOH. for a second I read it as DS rather than EV.
"He can't control his shockwaves" after me bringing up examples of him having extraordinary body and power output control. Far as I'm concerned it's still a better explanation than "It's a silly fighting manga, it's not supposed to make sense" type arguments.
I am going to write down it because I still do not understand how to send images.
just copy the images with right click and use ctrl+v. or use links.
You didn’t bring up any example you just stated he could those things again the only thing saitama actually controls in verse is his strength in each punch this isn’t like Saitama is punching full force but can controls his shockwaves so that they never shoot out they happen when the story wants them to happen there is no statement that he ever controls his own shockwaves or dc or the power of his punches
I'm on mobile right now
I never said there was blatant evidence for shockwave control. I'm brainstorming for something plausible, and you're taking it too seriously.
I’d like to point out it’s head canon to assume they fused and nothing says they did not even the narrator hes saying that future garou helped saitama changed the future and by extension past garou its literally stated
But to reply to this more seriously: This again, isn’t really comparable to what we see in 209. A character PUNCHING obv won’t depict him destroying the entire spacetime unless shown otherwise to be the case (like, he has some energy in his fast that has good DC). Newton’s laws explain this very well
Boros sent Saitama to moon at near light speed, the damage Saitama caused to the moon is like a hole with one meter depth , Saitama and Garou hit IO at at least MFTL speed (definitely mftl+). Nearly nothing. OPM shows it constantly.
would this to be affirming that the DS didn’t cut space and then emanate down from that hole (The twinkle in the sky being the hole)
Or launch a Serious punch and only obliterate Elder centipede
Just a guy who apparently lacks fiction knowledge
It's interesting to think about how it all works, really. Him having the potential to do something like that wouldn't surprise me given he already broke the 4th wall and interacted with non-physical objects. So even if he can't directly control the shockwaves, he's got excellent control over the trajectory and what happens during impact.
It does cut space. that is definite. ignores energy and size, and Empty Void himself states it very clearly. also the effects and aftermath of the slash also shows it.
Because it's not true to begin with, that's why it doesn't make sense. Also you are wrong about the twinkle being the portal. In any and every anime you watch, the twinkle is portrayed as "something incoming" rather than anything else, which is also depicted in OPM itself. But you are right about everything else
The panel you've linked would be great if it wasn't for the fact we have a second panel showing a zoomed in perspective. That's what is currently creating confusion on the distance.
The perspective changes. There was seemingly an universal distance, it can mean the slash ignored all those distances and hit earth, or EV hit and after that, perspective changed following the sword. either way should be fine for MFTL+ or infinite i think. other statements also support it.
honestly, Garou didnt want to kill anyone.I’d like to point out it’s head canon to assume they fused and nothing says they did not even the narrator hes saying that future garou helped saitama changed the future and by extension past garou its literally stated
Garou sent saitama back in time to defeat his past self to stop that ominous future which helps past garou not become the ominous future he didn’t want to become who kills everything even the 1 kid he didn’t want to die
Which i don't think it should, because you can just cover it up by "is for the audience to see"
we are used to it, wont be any surprise
Hmm, maybe him zooming in and out is an independent action from the range itself? Although there is no evidence for right now that shows him doing that consciously. I just can't picture it any other way than that going off of this logic.
based on the lack of any disagreements, EVERYONE agrees with my theory right?
How is DS ignoring distance and EV PREPARING to teleport away with his technique comparable??
Where is that ever stated???
Sure.
Because It is teleportation, how can Blast react to a literal teleportation but can't do it against DS?
It's stated at chapter 208,
When i said seemingly universal distance, i meant this page. "but once its inside the Universe" well it is intervining from the "outside", the sword is still at the hyperspace (as long as it doesn't fully enter) since Empty Void is the one moving it while not entering the dimension.
Which Genos described as divergence of the timelines. Those past events are the diverged timelines in bubbles
That is true, however: the next panel where we see the twinkle suggests that EV comes FROM that as a type of portal.
So what youre saying is that entering realspace strips away all the other properties of hyperspace from the sword, specifically only leaving size changing and space cutting effects... the very effects that are being powered by the swords connection to hyperspace?
