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Yeah, I hope we have more clear-cut MFTL/MFTL+ speed feats in OPM soon. There are debating forums that still have doubts that OPM god tiers are MFTL or higher.
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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like this one rn.
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Can't blame them I'd say. Btw, by clear-cut, I mean something that is so obvious that it doesn't need calculations for a casual viewer to understand it's massively FTL+. For instance, the characters show that they can cross interstellar distances in a couple of panels or pages. It should also be made clear that they scale to that speed. We have Serious Punch² sending both Garou and Saitama flying to Jupiter at MFTL+ speeds most certainly but there are no real arguments for them to scale to that level of speed. They got perception-blitzed by it.
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there is the sneeze.
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this page shows that the light trail within 0.0001 and 0.0007 is different, shows the same place to make the increase of speed clear, but also means that a light trail's duration is around that no?
there is no reason to think it shows different places there, as the whole point itself is to show the increase in speed
there is no reason to think it shows different places there, as the whole point itself is to show the increase in speed
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This is fine it doesn't remove their strongest keys anyway but Psykos jetform AP is now unknown.
One-Punch Man - Atomic Samurai and Psykos Calcs Removal
Two calc blogs, three calcs in total, should be removed from the verse page and profiles. This calc of Psykos' beam speed and the subsequent Atomic Samurai speed calc. This calc of Psykos' beam attack potency. Why would these calcs be removed? Because they depend on this panel: This issue...vsbattles.com
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Is anyone actually use psykos jet form in vsbattle?
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Io is 421700000 meters away from Io. Using the standard 1 second time frame only makes it around 1.4c
Even using a 0.1 second timeframe would only get it to ftl+ with there being no reason for it to be that fast
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huh? saitama and garou fly off from IO because of it. at most they should fly off within the expulsion state of the sneeze, since other than that, there is no force applied to saitama and garou. which means the whole feat happened within 0.3 sevond or less. then they fly off. after that, using the distance they went and using how much the dispersed gas went, it would give mftl+
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There was an attempt to get a calc like this approved few weeks ago. It got debunked and rejected…
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it didn't get rejected, the thread is still open. kinda died after opm's hiatus
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(couldn't find anything about it if it was talked before, so sry if it was)
can't this panel be used to find how long it takes for light trails to disappear?
it shows the difference between 0.0001 , 0.0007 and 0.0011. It's clear that the light trails are different in each page, which means they disappear within that timeframe. It clearly shows the same place as the whole point of this is to show the increase of speed, It doesn't make sense nor there is any reason to think it shows different places within the same timeframes. also the appearence of light trails change as well, which all the lines from the 0.0013 is visibly similar to that of 0.0011 while being different than the others, showing that the lines are different.
can't this panel be used to find how long it takes for light trails to disappear?
it shows the difference between 0.0001 , 0.0007 and 0.0011. It's clear that the light trails are different in each page, which means they disappear within that timeframe. It clearly shows the same place as the whole point of this is to show the increase of speed, It doesn't make sense nor there is any reason to think it shows different places within the same timeframes. also the appearence of light trails change as well, which all the lines from the 0.0013 is visibly similar to that of 0.0011 while being different than the others, showing that the lines are different.
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How long until the manga returns
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It is not that the previous lines disappear. They create new lines and thus, the whole structure looks different.
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Creating new lines while the old lines are visible means the creation rate exceeds the rate at which they disappear (light speed). Also, while they accelerate in speed, that disappearing rate takes longer relative to them. Light can only move at light speed, so none of the newer light structures will disappear at a different rate than the first one made.
If it is calculable, idk.
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no? the panel shows it to be different. the structure does look different because it is different. the panels also shows them to be different than the ones from 0.0001 and 0.0007. and the whole point of that panel is to show the increase of speed. also shows that it shows the same place and the lines are different.
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The constellation was formed in 0.0013 seconds. Meaning it couldn't have disappeared in 0.0006 seconds. That's just doesn't make any sense
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I don't know how any of what you said proved your point. Unless you are willing to count and compare every single line, the ones from other time frames are the ones from 0.0001 but far more complex.
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in this case, saying it was formed within 0.0013 would be just from looking at the last page while ignoring the page from before. (if they are different)
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No. We have literally no indication that the light trails started to disappear and you focusing on them changing doesn't even remotely imply so. You're grasping for straws to get a completely illogical conclusion just so you can upscale some characters.
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why would it be illogical? it clearly shows the same place as the whole point of this is to show the increase of speed. which they show the lines that appear more and more while those new lines also have different visuals.
just looking at the last page and saying no line disappeared without considering the page before that doesn't make sense to me.
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Using the calc's scale, the first line is 1754.3m.
The feat happened in 0.0013 seconds across 1691122.8m.
Light would accomplish the same feat in 0.0056 seconds.
However, going line by line, the first line would disappear (at light speed) completely at 0.000005852 seconds. This timeframe is 222x shorter than the duration of the entire feat.
So either an art factor, author oversight, or there's still meat on the bones of that calc lol. Probably a case of "authors don't know science", considering light is being emitted from FTL objects at the same time they're moving. Unless the characters gain light manipulation at fast enough speeds and the light is literally being emitted from their bodies...which again, is stupid from a science standpoint.
The feat happened in 0.0013 seconds across 1691122.8m.
Light would accomplish the same feat in 0.0056 seconds.
However, going line by line, the first line would disappear (at light speed) completely at 0.000005852 seconds. This timeframe is 222x shorter than the duration of the entire feat.
So either an art factor, author oversight, or there's still meat on the bones of that calc lol. Probably a case of "authors don't know science", considering light is being emitted from FTL objects at the same time they're moving. Unless the characters gain light manipulation at fast enough speeds and the light is literally being emitted from their bodies...which again, is stupid from a science standpoint.
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First of all, it showing the same place is a headcanon.
Second of all, nothing implies the light trails disappeared and saying it did goes completely against the final time frame.
No? The page before and after literally doesn't show any lines disappearing.
There is literally not a single implication of any lines disappearing and the final panel is clearly meant to show that the entire constellation was made in the time frame displayed on screen. Not in a random part of the time frame
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My comrade under the lord, this would mean that each interval showcases an entirely new constellation, which is not only false but makes no sense from a logical or artistical standpoint. The original constellation never disappeared. They sped up and the lights from when FF was there were still present.
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I know the weird potential Multiverse+ stuff from Empty Void and the recent chapters are not set in stone yet or might not even be valid at all yet but
I feel awesome knowing I predicted this nearly a decade ago, hehe.
I feel awesome knowing I predicted this nearly a decade ago, hehe.
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There's no potential multiversal+ scaling yet. At best multi+ cosmology but even that's not set in stone yet.
I mean didn't we all think Saitama will end up some omega multiversal+++ character by the end?
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About using void in vsbattle shouldn't he stay in the hyperspace at the start of the fight? Since as far the story go he's always chilling in there and had no reason to enter the earth dimension unless he needs to recruit someone, not to mention he can interact at earth dimension just fine without leaving the hyperspace
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What?
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Dimensional slash ignores fundamental concepts and manipulates them somehow.
It seems is giving conceptual manipulation?
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That's never stated. So, no.
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It does not stand. Not from an artistic or logical standpoint.
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What IS the discussion again.
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They're saying the old light trails that Garou/FF/PS made were disappearing as new ones were being made.
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Yes, it does. It did disappear a moment after the 0.0013 timeframe
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Pretty good thread on how DS works
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I disagree with the notion that Void's dimension slash has to travel to hit its targets. The slash obviously has to start from somewhere, that likely being wherever void slashes at. If void slashes directly at the target, the attack should spawn right there. We know for a fact that void needs flashy flash and doesn’t want to kill him, so for the 2 instances he used DS, he couldn’t just directly attack since flash was there. The first instance at the HA headquarters seemed like just a greeting as Blast said, and the second seemed like he was tryna separate flash and sonic or something.
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It's clearly shown DS has a travel time as seen in this panel (I didn't notice it until he pointed that out) and the panel later where FF warns Sonic before it hits him. Unless Murata's portrayal of how the DS works was flawed, and the slash was actually meant to have infinite speed. The current evidence suggests the slash must travel to reach its targets, meaning it might not "ignore distance" in a way that makes its speed infinite. It could just mean Void can attack you regardless of your whereabouts in the multiverse thanks to his Multiverse Perception.
As for Blast referring to DS as a mere greeting from Void, it can just mean Void has more powerful hax in his arsenal of abilities.
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it's because it's still a slash. from the dimension where empty void is to earth, it's instant. but the way he cuts is what matters
