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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
- Thread starter Phoenks
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if character B only got strong enough to destroy that star in the alternate timeline by acquiring a star level amp, then I don't need to explain how the main timeline character B isn't star level
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unless you want to argue that main timeline garou was 4-A from the first panel he appeared in or something, then I guess we could have that debate
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garou is the one who got an amp, not god
we're scaling god to garou, for absorbing his power
except he never absorbs his power in the main timeline, nor was he even responsible for bestowing 4-A power to begin with
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which was done entirely through hax my guy
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Cool, so God's power wouldn't change from either timeline.
I genuinely fail to understand what's being argued at this point.
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That's a different case entirely, then.
It has nothing to do with timeline changes, and would affect both timelines.
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I can see that you don't understand, but what I am saying is that god has no 4-A feat. Stealing garou's 4-A power would have been parallel timeline only, and the act of stealing the power in itself is hax, meaning he's not 4-A for being strong enough to steal it.
What needs to exist is an actual feat of god doing something 4-A or absorbing a 4-A level of power, and no such feat exists that applies to the main timeline.
Recon1511
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How about the fact that the Blast team solely exists to contain God and they shit their pants whenever just the seal containing him is damaged?
These guys on their own with their space hax are 4-A/4-B already, it would make no sense that they fear God if they could just one shot him or seal him again easily lol
These guys on their own with their space hax are 4-A/4-B already, it would make no sense that they fear God if they could just one shot him or seal him again easily lol
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because he has death hax, time hax, telepathy, mind manipulation, and an insane power bestowal ability that created a garou who would easily be able to defeat blast after some time. All this while literally in another dimension, and possibly even dead?
he could be 10-C and still be the most dangerous being in the verse.
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The hax logic is entirely fine. I don't personally care.
What I'm trying to communicate to you is that the feat (assuming it's AP for the moment) doesn't need to exist in the main timeline for it to be applied to the pages. The only variable that changed over the timeline (to our knowledge, anyway) was Saitama and Garou, so God retains the same level of strength.
It's not like a What If? Marvel Comics story.
Ped2018
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Yeah, basically this
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yes, but there is no feat is the point
god pre garou power absorption is not 4-A, and main timeline god does not have parallel timeline garou's powers
Recon1511
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So the guy that needs at least four 4-A/4-B beings to be contained (and these beings have decided to band up with the sole purpose of making sure he is sealed) and can grant its power to "avatars" that can easily eventually surpass these 4-A characters (and do this while still being mostly sealed mind you) doesn't scale above them because...?
This is just mental gymnastics.
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tell me one more time, what is god's 4-A feat? Was it being able to use hax on a 4-A character?
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For ****'s sake.
I just said if it's hax, I'm neutral on it.
I'm contesting your stupid alternate timeline logic.
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yes, his avatars can eventually surpass them by gaining power that god never granted them in the first place, which is stupid grounds for scaling.
and by the way, the "dimensional seal" is fodder, considering monster garou was literally breaking it with a 5-C feat
which kinda just proves that god was being held....inside of a 5-C prison
do you not see the issue here?
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the alternate timeline thing was for addressing another argument that god would be 4-A for absorbing garou's 4-A powers, which is affected by the alternate timeline
it wasn't about god turning him into salt just to make that clear
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they could very easily make him the hax god instead, which they have been doing considering he has never thrown out an attack in the entire series and just uses abilities and power bestowal all the time. For now, he is the most featless character in the verse next to watchdog man
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anyways as I sleep, just remember a few things
1. God has no 4-A feat
2. If he does have a 4-A feat, then it doesn't apply to the main timeline
3. Every god has done in the series thus far is entirely hax/abilities
4. Boros,
1. God has no 4-A feat
2. If he does have a 4-A feat, then it doesn't apply to the main timeline
3. Every god has done in the series thus far is entirely hax/abilities
4. Boros,
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Honestly, by this logic Blast/the Blastvengers should just scale to Elder Centipede because there was no Garou fight or SP2 feat.
In fact, Saitama shouldn't be 4-A at all because he only unleashed 4-A levels of power well after Garou copied the GRB.
In fact, Saitama shouldn't be 4-A at all because he only unleashed 4-A levels of power well after Garou copied the GRB.
Ped2018
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So true, you have my support now
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He'd probably scale to CSRC/Gaia Cannon
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no cheap shots while I'm sleeping pal, I knew you'd coming wiggling back here
blast still scales to 4-A because his portals were always gonna be that strong regardless of the timeline, vs god who potentially only became 4-A after absorbing garou's power
either way, blast upscales a saitamorbillion above tatsumaki based on the end of tats v saitama too, so there's that as well in case we ever needed it (but we don't)
I actually had wanted to scale blasts's physicals to at most 4-A due to the fact that garou can break his smaller portals, but that never went through if I recall
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And I knew you'd scurry back here like a rat to answer.
Again, he isn't just 4-A for adding Garou's power to his own. He's 4-A for revoking it in the first place in manner that was turning him to salt.
If you think taking it away is hax, that's whatever. I'm not arguing about hax.
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God killing Garou doesn’t scale to him at all and we have 0 idea how his power granting works.
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Is this stated?
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It's what Ziller is claiming.
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That’s weird. I don’t think we should scale him to anything Garou does. With lack of confirmation we can’t say anything he does comes from his physical strength
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I wasn’t referring to his SS or anything, just his ap section which applies to his combat powers
