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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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It's still regarded as a MFTL+ feat though when looking at the comments of that thread. So how Cosmic Garou could even hope of blitzing it is beyond me.
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Was hoping if I could find some sort of debunk for it, if possible?One of the worst attempts at unironically wank I've ever seen. To think Saitama fanboys would get this desperate. At least the infinite strength gag character arguments had some semblance of logic in them. I can't even fathom how he thinks this is realistic and usable. Patently ludicrous. And he thinks this means Saitama can solo almost any fictional verse aside from high-tier reality warpers? He'd still be fodder to any mid-tier fictional verse
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And it doesn't matter, because all of them are apart of low-tier collectively, or you could put them in a separate category entirely (fodder-tier). If there's 10 top tiers, 100 high-tier's, and 500 mid-tier's, there can still be 1,000,000 low-tiers, as long as the difference in power between the verses is enough to warrant a tier differential. Would Naruto be put in the same tier as Dragon Ball, when the gap between the two verses is virtually infinite?
Besides, the range in which a level must be met to reach a tier is wholly subjective, so I don't know why you would call it a misnomer when mid-tier has no official meaning in this context to begin with. Someone's high-tier is someone else's low-tier. These "tier" terms are meant as a broad conveyance, not a specific meaning. In my opinion, mid-tier constitutes uni+-multiversal. High-uni and below being low-tier. Not because high-uni or below is somehow "weak" or not strong in comparison to the countless fodder fictional verses, that's silly, but because there are also so many different varying orders of magnitude above even multiversal that putting it in the same tier as, say, hyperversal, sounds ludicrous to me. And likewise, putting hyperversal verses in the same tier as outerversal verses is similarly ridiculous.
For me its; Anything up to high-uni is low-tier. Uni+-Multiversal is mid-tier. Multiversal+-High-Hyperversal is high-tier. Low Outer-Boundless is top tier.
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You likely won't find it here because it's really not worth the time my friend. The best play to combat wank on this level is to ignore it outright. Usually if someone makes an argument this silly they're going to defend it to the grave. Though someone already debunked it on the very same thread anyways, it seems.
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lmao thats hilarious
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I think Uni+-Multiversal being mid-tier is crazy because the language implies we're talking about medium range of the relevant data set, meaning that the 99.5% of fiction and probably 90% of combat-oriented fiction that doesn't go beyond universal is all some kind of low tier. The body of high and top tier stuff here is so small compared to the bulk of media that people watch, read and consume it could collectively be an outlier.
LOL, that's a perfect example of what I'm thinking
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Isn't this Instinctive Reaction or Precog? Maybe Analytical Prediction?
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Isn't this Instinctive Reaction or Precog? Maybe Analytical Prediction?
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Considering he sees Suiryu as going actual millions of times slower than himself, avoiding Suiryu’s attack isn’t really meaningful for anything I’d say
If anything he should just be capable of analytical prediction cause of his skill scaling above garou’s
If anything he should just be capable of analytical prediction cause of his skill scaling above garou’s
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But Suiryu didn't attack, Saitama backed off on advance because he felt his attack was gonna get countered and thus his wig would get blown off
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Ok but for Saitama it would be the equivalent of staring at a dude for like a month straight to try and guess if he was about to kick him or not
Which is why it’s not the strongest evidence. But again, even when fighting Garou on almost equal terms he still didn’t really get screwed over, and is implied to have greater skill than him, so he should get analytical prediction to begin with
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Read the sequence again. Saitama himself comments it was close and Suiryu makes it apparent that Saitama reacted like that because Suiryu would have countered and blown his wig off.
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I understand what you’re saying but my point is that the speed gap is so great that it’s a prediction feat that even an average human would be easily able to replicate if they could think at mftl+ character speeds, it’d be the equivalent of staring at a guy balling up his fist for hours and then figuring out “wait a minute, he’s about to punch me!”
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Irrelevant to my point, he didn't dodge anything he felt he was gonna get his wig blown off and backed off in advance.
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True, but I think it looks more like IR because he isn't actually analyzing Suiryu's moves, he just "feels" (with some kind of shudder effect) the counter attack and backs off
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If we’re adding analytical prediction then it’d have to be supporting evidence, since the main case is skill scaling from Garou, since the Suiryu thing alone would only warrant an extremely limited or unimpressive analytical prediction which is only the bare minimum of having what is essentially ages to think about the next move he was gonna make
or maybe he just read Suiryu’s bad Poker face and crossed arms and made his decision that way, either way it’s one of the weakest analytical prediction feats possible even if it was technically him predicting an attack
Also iirc saitama already had instinctive reaction as a part of garou’s perfected martial art, but at best it could just go on his main timeline key
or maybe he just read Suiryu’s bad Poker face and crossed arms and made his decision that way, either way it’s one of the weakest analytical prediction feats possible even if it was technically him predicting an attack
Also iirc saitama already had instinctive reaction as a part of garou’s perfected martial art, but at best it could just go on his main timeline key
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Oh by the way I’ve realized that I am incredibly bad at making CRTs, so if you want then you can handle the high 7-A golden sperm thing
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I can do it if Recon doesn't mind
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Bumping my CRT here
Yeah go ahead I don't feel like tackling it rn
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True, as long as I can pass my responsibilities onto somebody else things will be perfectly okay. I trust that you could handle it very well
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No, Saitama doesnt state, in these scans at least, that he "felt" that his wig was going to be blown off, he only backed off because he believed it was possible for this to happen, in the next scan he's dodging a barrage of kicks because he consider them dangerous. He only believes his wig is going to fall off, he doesn't "Instinctively react" to anything
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You don't need Saitama to state (even though he does), He literally feels a shudder and sees Suiryu as a "threat" akin to how Kabuto saw him and backs off in advance.
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He doesn't see Suiryu as a genuine threat, though. He sees Suiryu as a genuine threat to his wig.
Also, there's tons of instances where this kind of stuff happens and it's not instinctive reaction, like the weird vibes Saitama gets from Sonic and TTM's fight with Garou. Saitama himself can exude a sort of killing intent when mad.
Iaian also mentions this kind of stuff (though it seems like more of an ability gained through training in his case).
Also, there's tons of instances where this kind of stuff happens and it's not instinctive reaction, like the weird vibes Saitama gets from Sonic and TTM's fight with Garou. Saitama himself can exude a sort of killing intent when mad.
Iaian also mentions this kind of stuff (though it seems like more of an ability gained through training in his case).
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*me seeing this*ajjajajajajaja,he looks so ridicoloys,because saitama has not scars
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None of this contradicts my point. It's pretty simple really, Saitama felt that his wig was gonna get blown away if he attacked and backed off in advance. That's pretty clearly IR.
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Saitama also “shudders” in his fight against Kabuto, although this is done merely as a comedic effect and we later know this caused by something entiret different. Saitama is never described as having this, implied, and what Suiryu thinks is him instinctively backing up because of his counter attack is simply Saitama backing up because he believes his wig will be knocked off.
Is there any other concrete showing of such an ability?
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If anything this falls under: Enhanced Senses and/or Extrasensory Perception: The means to detect incoming danger or when it's convenient to act in some way may be through any of this two powers, but a user of Instinctive Action doesn't necessarily have them
Saitama doesn’t instinctively react to this, he feels like his wig will be knocked off and avoids the next attack with conscious effort. Even then, with no direct confirmation im afraid that we cant call this ES either.
Saitama doesn’t instinctively react to this, he feels like his wig will be knocked off and avoids the next attack with conscious effort. Even then, with no direct confirmation im afraid that we cant call this ES either.
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The killing intent point was just to address the Kabuto shit.
Firstly, no it isn't. You wouldn't even need IR to do something like that and Suiryu was attacking the whole time.
Secondly, it was already slipping and had done so previously/needed to be secured.
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No, Suiryu wasn't attacking in that specific instance. He was literally provoking Saitama to attack him and Saitama backed off the moment he felt a threat (to his wig).
I don't see your point. Yes, it slipped previously but in this instance, the wig was perfectly in its place and Saitama was ready to attack. He retreated only because he felt Suiryu's counter.
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That's not what happened, but this is basically the point I'm trying to make.
He was attacking the whole time, and then comes in close in order to have a more direct fight, even egging Saitama on to throw a punch. As we've seen, punches alone can make Saitama lose his wig.
My point is that the wig as a whole is insecure, and it's not the kind of risk Saitama wanted to take. If Saitama threw a punch there, he also wouldn't have been able to hold the wig.
Which you don't need IR for something that blatantly obvious. Not only do these kinds of characters drawn in this exact manner exude killing intent, but any person with half a brain cell would know that an attack is coming.
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If it means anything, I wouldn’t punch someone begging me to punch them.
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To conclude, I'm not saying it can't be IR, I'm saying that calling it IR conclusively is a stretch. It could just as easily be intuition, which Suiryu (who, keep in mind, thinks Saitama is a hot shit martial artist here because he's not a mind reader) even says.
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Of all the crossovers they could do, that's what they came up with? God Blizzard has fallen off this hard. It was once a king, but I guess Riot might be taking its place in coming years, though Riot ain't looking too hot either tbh, at least as far as video-games go. Obviously Arcane was an absolute banger, but on the video-game spectrum they haven't had any bangers lately and their biggest cash cow is beginning to die. Valorant isn't as popular as it was a while back either. Maybe the League MMO in 10 years will save it.
That skin looks silly and it's a really shameless attempt at a cash grab.
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And that's where it ends. This is a subjective topic, literally no point in discussing it.
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where the hell are the 7-B calcs
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