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I know. It's a bit circular when you dig into it, but Do-S gets her scaling from Amai Mask as well.
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I know. It's a bit circular when you dig into it, but Do-S gets her scaling from Amai Mask as well.
Also he’s only on the same level of AP with piercing damage, meanwhile his durability, speed, and striking strength are all vastly inferior to the point where tanktop master is still dimensions better as a fighter than golden ball.And I certainly don't think it'd be a good idea to say that Golden Ball is on the same level as Garou, Tanktop Master and Genos...
Iirc she gets it from damaging the Narinki Mercs to mind control them and Amai Mask believing she could have mind controlled the disciplesI know. It's a bit circular when you dig into it, but Do-S gets her scaling from Amai Mask as well.
That is also a part of it, yes.Iirc she gets it from damaging the Narinki Mercs to mind control them and Amai Mask believing she could have mind controlled the disciples
Then the issue is?That is also a part of it, yes.
What issue?Then the issue is?
But why does it look bad?What issue?
I just said that the scaling chain looks bad, not that there is a singular massive flaw with it.
The longer a scaling chain becomes, the less reliable it is. Especially when upscaling and downscaling is involved, but isn't specifically noted on the profiles.But why does it look bad?
Not in the slightest?Anyobody else think this scaling chain is kinda bad?
You wouldn't make a single change to any of the characters there? Fair enough.Not in the slightest?
Not really, my only problem is that you used equal signs for a lot of characters, even when one is stronger than the other.You wouldn't make a single change to any of the characters there? Fair enough.
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This makes sense, he can overcome the durability of someone who scales to low 7-B with an piercing attackAlso he’s only on the same level of AP with piercing damage, meanwhile his durability, speed, and striking strength are all vastly inferior to the point where tanktop master is still dimensions better as a fighter than golden ball.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with low 7-B golden ball
The balls have also been slapped away by the Tentacle girl and when talking about its piercing power he states it can "even punch through x millimeters of hardened steel". Low 7-B piercing doesn't make sense with either one. Especially when we know that Garou can be stabbed with arrows and get cuts on other things that shouldn't harm him assuming a realistic level of durability.Low 7-B with piercing damage, pretty obvious solution there
No, since it could just be cosmic senses. Immeasurable speed would have to be him moving or fighting through time without a power like Saitama/Ghost Garou.Would God have immeasurable speed if he observed the whole instance of Saitama traveling through time and punching Garou?
Current chapter says otherwise mrkYou mean a terrible ship with no support kek
What are cosmic lenses? Like the cosmic awarness?No, since it could just be cosmic senses. Immeasurable speed would have to be him moving or fighting through time without a power like Saitama/Ghost Garou.
I guess this could be used as a supporting statement later onNo, since it could just be cosmic senses. Immeasurable speed would have to be him moving or fighting through time without a power like Saitama/Ghost Garou.
or maybe the things that cut him are just low 7-B? This is an insane line of logic that's making exceptions for no reasonThe balls have also been slapped away by the Tentacle girl and when talking about its piercing power he states it can "even punch through x millimeters of hardened steel". Low 7-B piercing doesn't make sense with either one. Especially when we know that Garou can be stabbed with arrows and get cuts on other things that shouldn't harm him assuming a realistic level of durability.
Being cut just isn't a feat when Garou isn't shown to be resistant to cutting attacks really.
Is this your first time hearing about piercing damage & slashing damage on the wiki?or maybe the things that cut him are just low 7-B? This is an insane line of logic that's making exceptions for no reason
we accept normal humans as being wall level, we accept zombieman as having desert eagles that can level a neighborhood, so why all of a sudden not accept garou being damaged by piercing multiple times as scaling? Maybe just accept the fact that a character damaged a low 7-B character, and therfore should scale. If other characters were able to damage him, they scale too, it's just that simple.
I am fully aware, which is why I'm arguing thisIs this your first time hearing about piercing damage & slashing damage on the wiki?
We even have a note on this on the Durability page.
No, that's a rather notable thing throughout fiction and even in OPM. Like Damage said we even have a durability page note. If the character is shown to be susceptible to sharp things (like Wonder Woman for example), we don't scale people to their tier based on cutting them.This is an insane line of logic that's making exceptions for no reason
Because the enemy Zombieman fought with his pistols didn't showcase a weakness to piercing attacks like Garou has. If it was cut by shards of glass or a knife by someone much weaker than Zombieman, we also wouldn't scale the guns to him. Look at Halo for example. We scale the guns different from Master Chief because the guns have different levels of power and don't full scale in that franchise.so why all of a sudden not accept garou being damaged by piercing multiple times as scaling
Why is Golden Ball's projectiles somehow reaching as high as Low 7-B (despite, you know, richocheting off of brick walls without damaging them) more likely than Garou just being hurt by something that is weaker than Low 7-B?I am fully aware, which is why I'm arguing this
we give ratings things like "higher with piercing" all the time
in this case, golden ball is low 7-B with piercing. Even if he can't actually output low 7-B force on garou's level, his piercing damage can harm those that are low 7-B, hence low 7-B with piercing.
it's true that we don't scale their striking strength to itNo, that's a rather notable thing throughout fiction and even in OPM. Like Damage said we even have a durability page note. If the character is shown to be susceptible to sharp things (like Wonder Woman for example), we don't scale people to their tier based on cutting them.
Again, there is no assumption that garou has an extreme "weakness to piercing damage" unless it's provenBecause the enemy Zombieman fought with his pistols didn't showcase a weakness to piercing attacks like Garou has. If it was cut by shards of glass or a knife by someone much weaker than Zombieman, we also wouldn't scale the guns to him. Look at Halo for example. We scale the guns different from Master Chief because the guns have different levels of power and don't full scale in that franchise.
well we already know damn well that if golden ball was 9-A, the walls would still be completely obliterated regardlessWhy is Golden Ball's projectiles somehow reaching as high as Low 7-B (despite, you know, richocheting off of brick walls without damaging them) more likely than Garou just being hurt by something that is weaker than Low 7-B?
what isn't true is the idea that we can't add a note that h is capable of piercing low 7-B characters
Garou has been cut by Golden Ball, cut by a spear, shot by bullets, shot by arrows and is then stabbed in a superior form by a person who he also one shots.Again, there is no assumption that garou has an extreme "weakness to piercing damage" unless it's proven
It's not. Its a standard applied to multiple other franchises and OPM isn't exempt from it.This is a wild jump in logic.
And I am saying I have absolutely no obligation to do soGarou has been cut by Golden Ball, cut by a spear, shot by bullets, shot by arrows and is then stabbed in a superior form by a person who he also one shots.
EDIT: Forgot, deflect Death Gatling's bullets also completely messed up his hands
So I'm asking you this Ziller: Provide a feat where Garou isn't cut by something.
Then you have zero ground to stand on. I provided evidence for my point, so it's on you to disprove it. If you don't have any evidence then you don't have any grounds to suggest upscaling.And I am saying I have absolutely no obligation to do so
Every time Garou encounters a sharp or piercing attack, it cuts him. I'm asking you to give any evidence where something sharp or piercing hits him and fails to do damage.You literally have nothing whatsoever suggesting that any of these things shouldn't scale to his durability.
And I am saying I have absolutely no obligation to do so
all this means is that these things just have piercing that scale to his durability
the idea that the burden of proof is on ME to prove that something that damaged a low 7-B character is low 7-B is absolute insanity.
You literally have nothing whatsoever suggesting that any of these things shouldn't scale to his durability.
Not so sure about thaton another note
how is that high 7-A bang scaling cooking
you provided evidence that other people have been able to damage garouThen you have zero ground to stand on. I provided evidence for my point, so it's on you to disprove it. If you don't have any evidence then you don't have any grounds to suggest upscaling.
and where is your evidence that garou is specifically weak to these attacks? Attacks damaged him, so what? You are the one who needs to prove that the characters that damaged a low 7-B character aren't low 7-B with piercing.Every time Garou encounters a sharp or piercing attack, it cuts him. I'm asking you to give any evidence where something sharp or piercing hits him and fails to do damage.
It doesn't mean they're outputting low 7-B force, it means they can pierce a character with low 7-B durability, meaning they have low 7-B piercingCan you prove that merely piercing Garou's skin is equal to Low 7-B?
yeah ik