STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[ZillertheBucko]

Furher scaling doesn’t contradict anything, unless there’s concrete evidence that Furher can’t be 6-A

oh ok then
I guess I'll get to work on that high 6-A fuhrer ugly crt

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Uh guys, if shes using psychic power to reinforce herself to withstand the inverted barriers, wouldn't her being injured and then weakened cause her to not be able to provide the same level of protection against fhurer?

What’s this reinforcement we’re talking about here?
We know from Pysckos statement that Tatsumaki is likely attempting to disable the barrier, if she was reinforcing herself with her TK she wouldn’t be taking any damage at all since she is capable of releasing more power than what’s being applied onto herself.

She just big tanky

 

[TimmyTurnero]

oh ok then
I guess I'll get to work on that high 6-A fuhrer ugly crt

I guess you’re conceding to fact that nothing contradicts high 6-A furher? Lol.
BS could also harm Tatsumaki soooo… and everyone scales to bs so

 

[ByAsura]

Bang stomped him very easily, DS (who lives in fear of Tats) matched him at a stronger level, Homeless Emperor destroyed VFU and Tats is above him, Golden Sperm is weaker than Platinum (thusly not far inferior to Flashy) and wrecked VFU, even at her weakest level Fuhrer had trouble breaking out of Tats' restraints and needed to mutate, etc.

 

[Epiccheev]

Tats getting punched by Fuhrer Ugly Manga redraw is also epic

Tatsumaki 35 seconds after entering your average Waffle House

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I guess you’re conceding to fact that nothing contradicts high 6-A furher? Lol.
BS could also harm Tatsumaki soooo… and everyone scales to bs so

no that was a joke
making high 6-A tatsumaki makes tsukuyomi guy high 6-A, but also him being vastly inferior to casual tatsumaki makes her scaling vastly above herself
the funny ensues, and tsukuyomi guy becomes >>>> saitama via circular scaling

 

[ReusedOil]

What’s this reinforcement we’re talking about here?
We know from Pysckos statement that Tatsumaki is likely attempting to disable the barrier, if she was reinforcing herself with her TK she wouldn’t be taking any damage at all since she is capable of releasing more power than what’s being applied onto herself.

She just big tanky

I mean tats was still maintaining a barrier with multi continental output, + psykos own power, so reinforcing herself on top of that would be reason enough that she could still get damaged

 

[Alexander]

what other wikis do while there is no opm cap: discuss other things. What this thread does when there is no new opm cap: talk about tatsumaki

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Is Tatsumaki’s telekinesis not superior to her physical body?

Her being unnaturally stronger than most heroes when using a certain level of power doesn’t disprove them scaling to her physical body which is demonstratively comparable to her Telekinesis to a certain extent.

 

[Recon1511]

We should talk about best boy Iaian instead

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Is Tatsumaki’s telekinesis not superior to her physical body?

Her being unnaturally stronger than most heroes when using a certain level of power doesn’t disprove them scaling to her physical body which is demonstratively comparable to her Telekinesis to a certain extent.

what the hell do you mean bro
does she physically scale to high 6-A or not man it's not that hard

 

[ZillertheBucko]

We should talk about best boy Iaian instead

gets fodderized by bos prisoner

 

[ReusedOil]

what the hell do you mean bro
does she physically scale to high 6-A or not man it's not that hard

Uh guys, if shes using psychic power to reinforce herself to withstand the inverted barriers, wouldn't her being injured and then weakened cause her to not be able to provide the same level of protection against fhurer?

So yeah conundrum explained

^^^

Wait i think i misunderstood your comment.

Though on the subject of tatsumaki's physicals without powers, zillers prolly right. She's maybe human level. Though with tats reinforcing through "protection"? Tis a whole different story

 

[LordTracer]

We should talk about best boy Iaian instead

Speed-o‘-Sound Sonic >>>>

 

[TimmyTurnero]

I mean tats was still maintaining a barrier with multi continental output, + psykos own power, so reinforcing herself on top of that would be reason enough that she could still get damaged

Creating a mini barrier on herself to counteract the output created from a much weaker barrier shouldn’t be hard for Tatsumaki at all, considering she has so much more untapped power that it makes this amount look like nothing.

Tatsumaki was enduring this output way before she even realized what was going on, regardless, her base state was surviving it.

 

[ReusedOil]

Yo about the barriers, seeing as how they function makes it so that the insides are more vulnerable due to how the direction of restistance works, does it make iaian breaking through the barrier less impressive?

 

[Ourosboros]

Speed-o‘-Sound Sonic >>>>

Appropriately delusional take since we're talking about the guy who thinks "I'll beat Saitama next time!" after losing for the third time this week.

Meanwhile we have the modest and sensible Iaian on the other hand, who understands and recognizes his own level even though he never shrinks from taking on far more powerful opponents in times of need

 

[Recon1511]

gets fodderized by bos prisoner

no

 

[ByAsura]

Yo about the barriers, seeing as how they function makes it so that the insides are more vulnerable due to how the direction of restistance works, does it make iaian breaking through the barrier less impressive?

No, because these barriers were multi-directional.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

what the hell do you mean bro
does she physically scale to high 6-A or not man it's not that hard

Is it that hard to understand? Sorry.
His argument favoring a contradiction was Furher being stomped by people who fear Tatsumaki, my rebuttal was they were afraid of Tatsumaki to a certain degree, when she was using a certain level of her power.
If this scaling is indeed true, this would mean Tatsumaki would have to use X level of power to be stronger than all heroes.
So them scaling above her physical body and still being weaker than her can still exist within the series.

 

[ReusedOil]

Creating a mini barrier on herself to counteract the output created from a much weaker barrier shouldn’t be hard for Tatsumaki at all, considering she has so much more untapped power that it makes this amount look like nothing.

Tatsumaki was enduring this output way before she even realized what was going on, regardless, her base state was surviving it.

Youre losing me on the mini barrier bit and untapped power. What are you talking about

Also couldn't tats had been like constantly reinforcing her body already though? Theres no reason not to.

 

[ReusedOil]

No, because these barriers were multi-directional.

Wait was this before or after she iaian already escaped?

 

[ByAsura]

If this scaling is indeed true, this would mean Tatsumaki would have to use X level of power to be stronger than all heroes.
So them scaling above her physical body and still being weaker than her can still exist within the series.

This assumes that Tatsumaki isn't stronger than the vast majority of heroes (including DS) even with levels below what she used to destroy Psykos' meat puppet.

Wait was this before or after she iaian already escaped?

It's just what she used to gather up all the heroes, including Iaian, in general.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Youre losing me on the mini barrier bit and untapped power. What are you talking about

Also couldn't tats had been like constantly reinforcing her body already though? Theres no reason not to.

So you’re baselessly asserting that she’s creating a mini barrier around herself ontop of creating a bigger barrier around herself? Against someone she believes is fodder compared to herself? Idk man, im gonna have to ask for a source for this one. She has never been represented to do such a thing and I don’t believe its safe to assume so now.

 

[LordTracer]

Appropriately delusional take since we're talking about the guy who thinks "I'll beat Saitama next time!" after losing for the third time this week.

Meanwhile we have the modest and sensible Iaian on the other hand, who understands and recognizes his own level even though he never shrinks from taking on far more powerful opponents in times of need

Damn, that’s crazy

But Sonic‘s a twink, so >>>>>

 

[TimmyTurnero]

This assumes that Tatsumaki isn't stronger than the vast majority of heroes (including DS) even with levels below what she used to destroy Psykos' meat puppet.

I’m assuming nothing though, this entire argument is about them being superior to base Tatsumaki, if this alludes to them being superior to Tatsumaki TKs to a certain degree then so be it lol. I fail to see where the contradiction comes in at

 

[ReusedOil]

Uhm...Uhm... Uhm...

"Oh? Looks like you've got enough psychic power left for a bit of protection"

She was just too weak there for that protection to work against BS

So you’re baselessly asserting that she’s creating a mini barrier around herself ontop of creating a bigger barrier around herself? Against someone she believes is fodder compared to herself? Idk man, im gonna have to ask for a source for this one. She has never been represented to do such a thing and I don’t believe its safe to assume so now.

Im not talking about no mini barrier. I'm talking about an actual psychic ability that she can use to reinforce her body.

Im so confused what who are you talking about fodder to whom???

 

[ByAsura]

You're assuming she's only stronger than most heroes at a certain level. This is false.

You're also pretending as if Fuhrer being even somewhat relative to full power Tatsumaki is correct. It flagrantly isn't, like Tats at one of her weakest and most damaged levels being able to restrain him completely before he mutated.

Also, Orochi is stated to be >> all monsters while untransformed, and Psykos admitted he has more power than even she thought. PsykoOrochi is >>> Transformed Orochi, so even pretending that Fuhrer is close to this is non-sensical.

What's more likely, that Fuhrer is in any way close to these characters, or that they simply weren't using High 6-A levels of power? Psykos looks fairly casual to me, and she warned Tats that using too much power would back fire and crush her beforehand.

 

[ReusedOil]

You're assuming she's only stronger than most heroes at a certain level. This is false.

You're also pretending as if Fuhrer being even somewhat relative to full power Tatsumaki is correct. It flagrantly isn't, like Tats at one of her weakest and most damaged levels being able to restrain him completely before he mutated.

Also, Orochi is stated to be >> all monsters while untransformed, and Psykos admitted he has more power than even she thought. PsykoOrochi is >>> Orochi, so even pretending that Fuhrer is close to this is non-sensical.

What's more likely, that Fuhrer is in any way close to these characters, or that they simply weren't using High 6-A levels of power? Psykos looks fairly casual to me, and she warned Tats that using too much power would back fire and crush her beforehand.

Im so confused on whos side is who now. I think the sleep deprivation is getting to me

 

[ByAsura]

I'm talking to Timmy

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Im not talking about no mini barrier. I'm talking about an actual psychic ability that she can use to reinforce her body.

Im so confused what who are you talking about fodder to whom???

Reinforcement and creating a mini barrier isnt the same thing, that Tatsumaki thing could have equally been explained by her just asserting more telekinetic power while doing this action vs her increase her base power using TK (something she is never described to do). It’s the equivalent of someone with TK lifting a car and pretending they’re doing it with their own strength. Plus WC only

Has Tatsumaki even showcased this ability? I didn’t think this was an actual thing outside of Fubuki who is clearly doing something outside the norm of basic TK.

She considers Pyckos fodder.

Even if she could boost her base stats like you claim, why would she actively be doing this against someone she considers fodder while having a barrier ontop of herself already? Makes no sense logically or narratively.

 

[ReusedOil]

I'm talking to Timmy

But wasnt ziller's counterpoint was exactly fhurer apparently scaling to tats tanking the inverted barrier due to how he damaged her?

 

[ByAsura]

His argument was based on the fact that Fuhrer doesn't scale to Tats' level of power there at all, which I agree with.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

You're assuming she's only stronger than most heroes at a certain level. This is false.

So you’re asserting that no matter how much power Tatsumaki is using, she is always superior to every hero. Even if she was using .00000000000001% of her power, she is superior to every hero. It’s common sense that only when using X amount of power she surpasses certain heroes. She can suppress herself from regular human level all the way to High 6-A, so yes, only at a certain output she surpasses the heroes. I fail to see the conflict within this belief, it should be common sense given the nature of her power. She’s not always at full power.
I think you’re misunderstanding.

You're also pretending as if Fuhrer being even somewhat relative to full power Tatsumaki is correct. It flagrantly isn't, like Tats at one of her weakest and most damaged levels being able to restrain him completely before he mutated.

I never stated, claimed, implied or alluded to this idea. Misunderstanding, I’m “pretending” FU could burst open base Tatsumaki’s skull who in return is capable of surviving high 6-a TK for a little while.
Unless you believe Pycos is near full power Tatsumaki I fail to see how you would be confused here.
I’ve made it pretty clear that I’m scaling FU to base Tatsumaki (something presented in series) who in return can endure High 6-a attacks (also shown in series).

Also, Orochi is stated to be >> all monsters while untransformed, and Psykos admitted he has more power than even she thought. PsykoOrochi is >>> Transformed Orochi, so even pretending that Fuhrer is close to this is non-sensical.

Nobody is claiming they’re close to this level though.

What's more likely, that Fuhrer is in any way close to these characters, or that they simply weren't using High 6-A levels of power? Psykos looks fairly casual to me, and she warned Tats that using too much power would back fire and crush her beforehand.

Psykos without the fusion is High 6-A, Tatsumaki is aware of her power and sets her barriers to be enough to block her attacks, so while massively suppressed to Psykos level she should at least be high 6-a during this fight. Her base body could endure that level of energy, fu can crack her head open. Its ABC scaling.

 

[ReusedOil]

His argument was based on the fact that Fuhrer doesn't scale to Tats' level of power there at all, which I agree with.

Oof i got confused because in my mind ziller's argument was alr answered by what I said about tatsumaki boosting her physicality through the protection ability and her being injured and in a weaker state makes her less able to reinforce herself when fhurer attacked her, making me extra confused when you brought up the "fhurer ugly isnt relative to tats at full power" point that looked close enough to mine against timmy who I thought agreed with me.

...until I remembered that timmy fully believes that tatsumaki physically tanked all that without powers...

 

[TimmyTurnero]

You’re aware that Psykos pre fusion is already high 6-a right?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

You’re aware that Psykos pre fusion is already high 6-a right?

after drinking gatorade

 

[ByAsura]

So you’re asserting that no matter how much power Tatsumaki is using, she is always superior to every hero.

I didn't though. I literally said 'at levels below what she used to destroy Psykos' meat puppet', which is still far lower than what Tats used here.

She can suppress herself from regular human level all the way to High 6-A, so yes, only at a certain output she surpasses the heroes. I fail to see the conflict within this belief, it should be common sense given the nature of her power. She’s not always at full power.

My point is that she doesn't even use High 6-A levels of power in these situations, so there's no misunderstanding here.

I never stated, claimed, implied or alluded to this idea. Misunderstanding, I’m “pretending” FU could burst open base Tatsumaki’s skull who in return is capable of surviving high 6-a TK for a little while.

Unless you believe Pycos is near full power Tatsumaki I fail to see how you would be confused here.
I’ve made it pretty clear that I’m scaling FU to base Tatsumaki (something presented in series) who in return can endure High 6-a attacks (also shown in series).

Did I ever say full power? No, so where's this notion coming from? All I ever claimed was that Orochi is below Psykos, and Fuhrer is below that. Tatsumaki does scale to Psykos without her full power.

Psykos without the fusion is High 6-A

7-B, possibly High 6-A.

So everyone would be possibly High 6-A (if I don't downgrade the High 6-A thing in the future).

 

[TimmyTurnero]

I didn't though. I literally said 'at levels below what she used to destroy Psykos' meat puppet', which is still far lower than what Tats used here.

And is it stated by any reliable source that the energy she’s using to destroy the puppet is superior to all of the S class? Regardless, feats>statements and any statement of the sort is clearly contradicted by what’s represented to take place further in the story.

My point is that she doesn't even use High 6-A levels of power in these situations, so there's no misunderstanding here.

My point is against Psykos she wasnt using High 6-A levels of power, as she was using superior strength to Psykos who is listed as High 6-A on this website.

Did I ever say full power? No, so where's this notion coming from? All I ever claimed was that Orochi is below Psykos, and Fuhrer is below that. Tatsumaki does scale to Psykos without her full power.

But you quite literally claimed I’m pretending that Fu is relative to full power Tatsumaki.

“You're also pretending as if Fuhrer being even somewhat relative to full power Tatsumaki is correct”
Did you forget about this statement or pretending that it was never made?

It’s good that we both agree that Tatsumaki=>>> Psykos while suppressed.

7-B, possibly High 6-A.

So everyone would be possibly High 6-A (if I don't downgrade the High 6-A thing in the future).

Yes, this is what I’m arguing.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

Now that that’s settled, can someone link the Earthquake calc?