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Word?That guy’s 2-C now so Saitama reaching Universal won’t be enough anymore
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Word?That guy’s 2-C now so Saitama reaching Universal won’t be enough anymore
guy got from uni to 2c in a transformation, we got a hint of the many world theory so if we go by what is most theorised, saitama will be multiversalThat guy’s 2-C now so Saitama reaching Universal won’t be enough anymore
okay then create an account and name it coomandEr, problem solvedCoomander > Coomandar
This is why I separate my personal, subjective opinion from my actual arguments. I think Dragon Ball being Low 2-C is absolutely absurd (with the exception of Zeno). But the evidence that supports it isn't very refutable, thus, in an actual discussion, I'll still argue that they are Low 2-C. But within the actual context of the universe and story, I sincerely doubt they are. I think they're just absurdly high into 3-A in reality.dragon ball being above 3-A is pretty wack to me
but that's just cause I strongly disagree with the infinite zamasu low 2-C existing, as well as the "time = 4th dimension" stance the wiki takes
Relatable.This is why I separate my personal, subjective opinion from my actual arguments. I think Dragon Ball being Low 2-C is absolutely absurd (with the exception of Zeno). But the evidence that supports it isn't very refutable, thus, in an actual discussion, I'll still argue that they are Low 2-C. But within the actual context of the universe and story, I sincerely doubt they are. I think they're just absurdly high into 3-A in reality.
it's actually completely refutable when you consider that infinite zamasu just has time manip and is not low 2-C in size.This is why I separate my personal, subjective opinion from my actual arguments. I think Dragon Ball being Low 2-C is absolutely absurd (with the exception of Zeno). But the evidence that supports it isn't very refutable, thus, in an actual discussion, I'll still argue that they are Low 2-C. But within the actual context of the universe and story, I sincerely doubt they are. I think they're just absurdly high into 3-A in reality.
He became a timeline. That's pretty apparent and was outright stated in the series. Idk where you got that from.it's actually completely refutable when you consider that infinite zamasu just has time manip and is not low 2-C in size.
no he became the universe iircHe became a timeline. That's pretty apparent and was outright stated in the series. Idk where you got that from.
Technically, that's the same thing, just different wording from what's commonly used. A timeline is a universe, just in full. A universe as its whole isn't just a bunch of matter and energy, it includes space and time. If they meant he became Universe 7, they would have specified it being Universe 7, especially Gowasu. For Gowasu, who isn't even from Universe 7, to call Universe 7 "the universe" would be even weirder. You could interpret them calling it the universe because it's the one their currently residing in, but that's not very consistent with how such wording is in DBS, if I remember correctly, and it would make far more sense for Gowasu to say "this universe". They almost always specify what universe they're talking about. In any case, the wording here does not make much sense if it just applied to the 7th universe.no he became the universe iirc
And this is basically the argument I used to oppose the 3-A infinite zamasu downgradeTechnically, that's the same thing, just different wording from what's commonly used. A timeline is a universe, just in full. A universe as its whole isn't just a bunch of matter and energy, it includes space and time. If they meant he became Universe 7, they would have specified it being Universe 7, especially Gowasu. For Gowasu, who isn't even from Universe 7, to call Universe 7 "the universe" would be even weirder. You could interpret them calling it the universe because it's the one their currently residing in, but that's not very consistent with how such wording is in DBS, if I remember correctly, and it would make far more sense for Gowasu to say "this universe". They almost always specify what universe they're talking about. In any case, the wording here does not make much sense if it just applied to the 7th universe.
Besides that whole thing though, going back to the other point that Zamasu's influence was breaching into the Present Timeline, what proof is there that he did that through a specific time travel ability and not just him becoming a massive, abstract, conceptual entity, it's even specified that his "energy" is being felt, he hasn't actually reached into the present timeline, but his presence was felt there. That's not typically how time travel works, including within Dragon Ball. Furthermore, the method of time travel used for the Zero Mortal Plan was very explicitly through the use of a Time Ring, which Infinite Zamasu wouldn't have kept. Or are you saying he suddenly gained his own form of time travel, for no particular reason.
I could also make the argument that Zeno himself seemed to think that Zamasu had become one with the timeline. Because it doesn't make much sense for Zeno to think erasing the whole timeline was logical otherwise. I know he's obviously child-minded and ignorant, but why on Earth would he erase literally everything including his own home if he didn't feel that it was necessary.
it should, since he dragged it through earth's layers and damaged themQuestion, can't orochi core feat be used as a Lifting strength feat aswell?
Probably around Silverfang's tier, but I won't be that surprised if he's a god tierwhat are peoples actual thoughts on watchdog man’s potential. Do you think he’s gonna be a god tier or just like, Silverfang tier who is just really good at fighting?
we dont need more godtiers in hero association.what are peoples actual thoughts on watchdog man’s potential. Do you think he’s gonna be a god tier or just like, Silverfang tier who is just really good at fighting?
her and blast in the same sentence?we dont need more godtiers in hero association.
just tatsumaki and blast are enough, just expect watchdog to be really strong
Fixed it for Youwe need more godtiers in hero association.
just tatsumaki and blast aren't enough, expect watchdog to be Tier 1-C
Can't believe I'm actually saying this buther and blast in the same sentence?
LMAOOOOOO
watchdog man has more evidence of being a god tier than tatsu ever will already
the difference is that we've already seen her peak, while watchdog man is one of the most underutilized characters in the series, and hasn't shown any sign of having ever been challengedCan't believe I'm actually saying this but
Tatsumaki has more feats, more statements and more implications than Watchdog Man has at the moment. The best you can have of him currently is him being a strong Dragon based on him defending Q City alone, impressive for sure, but a strong Dragon is literally nothing to the sassy lost child
God himself tried to approach Tatsumaki, that speaks for her power alone
Maybe, but you call that as having more evidence than Tatsumaki ?the difference is that we've already seen her peak, while watchdog man is one of the most underutilized characters in the series, and hasn't shown any sign of having ever been challenged
I mean watchdog man's design is quite literally him Saitama in a dog costume, which alone is already very telling
he's the only S class hero who is never shown struggling with a battle in any way, and he completely stomps garou without using effort, which I suspect makes him a god compared to someone like tank top master at least
he also doesn't even use his real power in that fight, and pretty much just parries garou and runs around him for almost the entire "fight"
if city Q really is the most dangerous city and watchdog man handles every threat without getting tired or injured, we can speculate that he is one of the strongest heroes physically. We can assume (not crt material of course) that he's likely fought some dragon levels at some point too.
Also, watchdog man is intentionally absent during the monster association arc, which yeah is because he's busy in city Q, but that's the point. The reason he has the quirk of only defending one city probably means that if he stepped out of city Q he'd destroy every enemy.
His scaling obviously sucks and is gonna be obsoleted when we see more of him, but I'd say there is a good chance he's gonna be a saitama level character.
No… we haven’t.the difference is that we've already seen her peak
was she not knocked out during the final battles? At the very least, she's not anywhere near tier 4. I can't see her being beyond like, perfect garou's 5-C.We still haven't seen Tatsumaki's peak
Tatsumaki is homeless guy level confirmedGod himself tried to approach Tatsumaki, that speaks for her power alone
I firmly believe that Metal Knight will surpass Tatsumaki.just tatsumaki and blast are enough
Ehhhh I doubt it, sure he has potential but making him Tier 4 would be the biggest asspull on the serieswhile watchdog man really doesn't have any evidence of not being a god tier.
Metal knight is def one of the strongest non top tiers but definitely isn’t gonna be breaking planets for the next decadeI firmly believe that Metal Knight will surpass Tatsumaki.
They could always go “multiversin time” and reveal that watchdog man is an alternate universe Saitama or some shitEhhhh I doubt it, sure he has potential but making him Tier 4 would be the biggest asspull on the seriesalthough that fits OPM
?her and blast in the same sentence?
LMAOOOOOO
watchdog man has more evidence of being a god tier than tatsu ever will already
maybe, but not on raw power, never.I firmly believe that Metal Knight will surpass Tatsumaki.