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He took like four punches, all of which visibly harmed him.
Idk man I think that’s how downscaling works
Even if VFU’s durability did scale to GS, Darkshine wouldn’t scale to that for matching him in AP. Matching someone in AP doesn’t mean you scale to their durability.
out of curiosity, are there any displays of Ugly being able to fight someone who can damage him?
 
Idk man I think that’s how downscaling works
When casual punches from a High 7-A are hurting you and you get bodied by casual blasts from another High 7-A (one that also Varies and can be 7-B), the notion of you having High 7-A durability becomes very questionable.
out of curiosity, are there any displays of Ugly being able to fight someone who can damage him?
nope kek
 
When casual punches from a High 7-A are hurting you and you get bodied by casual blasts from another High 7-A (one that also Varies and can be 7-B), the notion of you having High 7-A durability becomes very questionable.
Pretty sure that’s how downscaling works
 
I think he regrows stuff but it's weird, like if someone decapitated him would he grow a new head or a new body? and if the second answer is correct, does that mean that the decapitated head is dead?
 
I think he regrows stuff but it's weird, like if someone decapitated him would he grow a new head or a new body? and if the second answer is correct, does that mean that the decapitated head is dead?
If he regrows stuff, then it's like Ajin. Meaning the old head is dead. If he reattaches stuff, the old head is still alive
 
Even if VFU’s durability did scale to GS, Darkshine wouldn’t scale to that for matching him in AP. Matching someone in AP doesn’t mean you scale to their durability.
I mean there's no reason to believe his durability got any higher after getting covered in acid. I would assume the opposite actually.
 
I mean there's no reason to believe his durability got any higher after getting covered in acid. I would assume the opposite actually.
That’s not a good argument. If he has better durability feats in his vomited form, and there’s nothing suggesting that his durability stagnated, then he simply has higher durability.
 
I'd like to see the scans actually, interesting if true
Here you go.
That’s not a good argument. If he has better durability feats in his vomited form, and there’s nothing suggesting that his durability stagnated, then he simply has higher durability.
He doesn't really. Bang deflects his attacks at him and it hurts him. Ie, his only real dura feat up until that point is scaling to himself.

Also, he literally is falling apart when in his vomited form, needing to re-eat his body to avoid collapsing into a puddle. If that's not a sign of at least durability stagnation, idk what is.
 
He doesn't really. Bang deflects his attacks at him and it hurts him. Ie, his only real dura feat up until that point is scaling to himself.

Also, he literally is falling apart when in his vomited form, needing to re-eat his body to avoid collapsing into a puddle. If that's not a sign of at least durability stagnation, idk what is.
You’re arguing that he should scale to taking hits from Golden Sperm and Homeless Emperor. Those are better feats than withstand his own punches (which he doesn’t even do that well, so that’s barely a dura feat kek)
 
You’re arguing that he should scale to taking hits from Golden Sperm and Homeless Emperor. Those are better feats than withstand his own punches (which he doesn’t even do that well, so that’s barely a dura feat kek)
What do you mean? His single punch almost instantly takes gums out, and he's able to rip gums in half, showing pretty consistent AP and Durability between both forms. If you're arguing he didn't take his own punch very well, he got knocked back and got a bloody nose. That happens when humans punch eachother too, so that's not much of an argument.

Edit: Chapter 144 is the chapter where he takes his own punch.
 
I mean that just tells me that Gums is a fodder dragon and weaker than Fuhrer Ugly and nothing else.
 
I mean that just tells me that Gums is a fodder dragon and weaker than Fuhrer Ugly and nothing else.
I think that minus his bite force and acid, that's true. But that doesn't disprove my point, if anything, it supports my point because it shows that he didn't get massively stronger after being covered in acid. He's still performing consistent feats between both forms, only difference is we get to see his dura pushed to its max when taking his from GS and HE.
 
What do you mean? His single punch almost instantly takes gums out, and he's able to rip gums in half, showing pretty consistent AP and Durability between both forms.
His single punch did not almost take Gums out, Gums recovered literally TWO PAGES later.
 
His single punch did not almost take Gums out, Gums recovered literally TWO PAGES later.
Yeah. One punch took 2 pages to recover from. Although I admit, I kind of thought he had punched through his side at first. It was onyl on re-read that I realised that wasn't the case.
 
I mean it also happens in a extremely short timeframe, like
FU punches Gums>Gets shit on by Bang>as he is falling Gums regenerates and swallows him
 
I mean there's no reason to believe his durability got any higher after getting covered in acid. I would assume the opposite actually.
It is stated that more inferior Fuhrer Ugly feels, stronger he is. So I would say there is enough reason to assume that VFU is far more durable than FU.
 
It is stated that more inferior Fuhrer Ugly feels, stronger he is. So I would say there is enough reason to assume that VFU is far more durable than FU.
Okay, so he got stronger, but he got stronger in relation to his power. Meaning the relation between his AP and durability should be the same.
 
It would be kinda ineffective if his amping got to the point where throwing a punch would break his arm so, in this case I find it more reasonable that his dura increases alongside his AP
Except the argument that Cryo is making is that his AP should scale to his durability, not the other way around.
 
Well yeah but you’d still be having to make another assumption to say that he stopped scaling to his durability
Not really, it’s just a matter of him having better durability feats than his AP feats, so his durability scales higher. Even though I disagree with him having High 7-A durability to begin with, but you get the point
 
Except the argument that Cryo is making is that his AP should scale to his durability, not the other way around.
What I'm saying is, he's shown to take damage from his own reflected attack, then he gets more humiliated, and grows stronger, his dura should still be consistent with his AP.
 
What I'm saying is, he's shown to take damage from his own reflected attack, then he gets more humiliated, and grows stronger, his dura should still be consistent with his AP.
“should still be” is not a proper argument without evidence.
 
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