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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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They bend and home in on their target. That combined with it being a massive speed outlier is why it was rejected as being SoL.
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I see thanks for answering my question.
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If Boros had zero access to Meteoric Burst and Collapsing Star, does he get stomped by Tatsumaki or Psykorochi, or is it still a difficult fight?
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When Boros unleashed an energy blast did it not destroy a small spike-thing on his ship? (unless that was anime only) Boros' ship is made out of material that withstood the moon jump so he would probably have the AP advantage
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Well, we don’t know what would’ve happened if Saitama had landed right on one of those spikes, all he landed on was the middle of the roof and went down a few floors (I imagine the roof itself is more durable than those spikes).
Is Psykorochi’s God Blasts comparable to Released Boros’ blasts/moon jump?
Is Psykorochi’s God Blasts comparable to Released Boros’ blasts/moon jump?
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That’s the whole point of powerscaling. We don’t need the author to come tell us that Tatsumaki can defeat Beginning of Series Genos in single combat.
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Funny thing is, by wiki standards if you made a vs match between Tatsumaki and Boros, im pretty sure Tats would stomp.
Boros has no way of dealing with Class P TK and he's not going to have time to get close (In speed equal).
Boros has no way of dealing with Class P TK and he's not going to have time to get close (In speed equal).
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I feel like this is a nitpick.... But having Genos beating up a Hydrated Deep Sea King in his Post-G4 just feels off.... I feel like it should be "Hero Association Saga | Human Monster Saga | Monster Association Arc" (with "Casually defeated a hydrated Deep Sea King." in the HA Saga Key since that's a more broader timespan than just "Beginning of Series" I mean l like it could be "Large Town level. At least Large Town level after upgrades")
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Hence the "At least Large Town level after upgrades" bit, but that's just a nitpick since the G4 fight after Deep Sea King fight
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https://********.org/chapter/1074599
this is the latest webcomic chapter. plus recently murata revised an older manga chapter.
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So looking at the to do list it seems everything besides these 4 things have been completed:
Deciding which version of the serious punch should be used: Gwyn's version, Ugarik's version, or ByAsura's version
Calcing Boros' cloud split to get the original power of the serious punch
Calcing a better version of the CSRC besides Sheer Strength (maybe melting?)
Scaling Drive Knight
Scaling Drive Knight to full 7-B should be easy and then that just leaves CSRC and the serious punch left. Then after that we can discuss Webcomic profiles and maybe JDA again?
Deciding which version of the serious punch should be used: Gwyn's version, Ugarik's version, or ByAsura's version
Calcing Boros' cloud split to get the original power of the serious punch
Calcing a better version of the CSRC besides Sheer Strength (maybe melting?)
Scaling Drive Knight
Scaling Drive Knight to full 7-B should be easy and then that just leaves CSRC and the serious punch left. Then after that we can discuss Webcomic profiles and maybe JDA again?
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Should Dream Saitama have his own key/profile?
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Wasn't that only a dream though? Would that really warrant a profile? I'm pretty sure that trying to scale that would be pretty difficult.
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but that would be pretty funny
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No. And honestly I don't know what would be all that different about dream Saitama.
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Maybe there would be a difference in statistics but I really don't know that exactly. It was a dream so pretty much anything could be the case.
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Some people believe his dream version to be somehow weaker than his real self. Don’t have an opinion either side to be honest.
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I think that idea comes from the video game where Dream Saitama is treated as a seperate character who, unlike regular Saitama, can't one-shot the other characters.
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That might actually be right. Since Saitama hasn't really needed to put any effort into his fights for quite a while at that point of time it stands to reason that he might not have quite known the full extent of his strength himself. Aside from the fact that they are damaging Saitama and making him put some effort into defeating them, the dream Subterraneans don't give off the impression of being stronger than Boros who was unable to give Saitama a satisfying fight. That being said, it's just a conjecture since we have no way of knowing for sure and even if we did, it would be hard to give Saitaima's dream version proper ratings.
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Well. Dream Saitama was made to bleed by being punched through 1 apartment wall in the manga, so its pretty obvious that he’s nerfed compared to his real self. I don’t see him even being Darkshine level with his manga feats.
Also; could Tatsumaki control Metal Knight’s robots? She’s able to control TV with her ‘psychic remote control’, so...
Also; could Tatsumaki control Metal Knight’s robots? She’s able to control TV with her ‘psychic remote control’, so...
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Well, area of effect isn't necessarily the same as Attack Potency so someone could still scale to Saitama if they damage him even if their attack didn't affect a large area which in turn means that this doesn't necessarily mean that Dream Saitama is weaker but you could take it as evidence for that.
I don't think that Tatsumaki could control Metal Knight's robots since there is most likely a massive difference in terms of technological complexity between those robots and a TV so Metal Knight's robots should be a lot harder to control by comparison.
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It’s not the area of affect that’s the problem; it’s the fact that this attack which hurt Saitama, couldn’t even send him 15 metres away, despite him not being able to fly and not touching the ground.
We KNOW Saitama can’t exactly “stop” himself mid air, so attacks that hit him in the air, logically send him far away based on the power of the attack; such as Suiryu and Boros’ attacks on him.
We KNOW Saitama can’t exactly “stop” himself mid air, so attacks that hit him in the air, logically send him far away based on the power of the attack; such as Suiryu and Boros’ attacks on him.
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Well, not all attacks in anime send a person flying as far as they should according to the laws of physics.
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I’m pretty sure “Dream” Saitama wasn’t any weaker, the Dream Subterraneans were simply stronger.
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That's at the very least how Saitama would imagine it. What he has been specifically thinking about is facing an opponent strong enough to challenge him and not being weak enough to be challenged by an opponent.
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If the Dream Subterraneans were actually strong enough to hurt Saitama, each attack would’ve been many, MANY times stronger than Meteoric Boros’ moon kick.
This is clearly not the case; as 1 apartment wall was strong enough to slow Saitama‘a velocity enough so that he only went as far as the street below before hitting the ground.
The official video game also supports Dream Saitama simply being a nerfed, weaker Saitama.
This is clearly not the case; as 1 apartment wall was strong enough to slow Saitama‘a velocity enough so that he only went as far as the street below before hitting the ground.
The official video game also supports Dream Saitama simply being a nerfed, weaker Saitama.
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Correct. However, in One Punch Man, an attack that is strong will generally send someone pretty far away unless they are actively blocking it or slow themselves down somehow. See; Saitama being kicked to the moon and across the ship by Meteoric Boros, however, when Saitama raises his arms, Boros becomes completely incapable of even budging him.
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Well, at this point of time Saitama hasn't encountered Boros yet so one could argue that he didn't know yet that he could withstand a kick to the moon. He would also likely not care too much about the laws of physics while dreaming.
The idea about Dream Saitama is Saitama being able to enjoy a challenge so it makes sense that this version would be weaker than the real Saitama in a video game regardless of whether or not he actually is supposed to be weaker in the anime or manga.
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1. He HAD encountered Beefcake though, who threw him down through an entire multi-story building and then showered him in punches after. Not a scratch.
2. Saitama just wants a challenge; and we KNOW he believes he’s “too strong”, so it’s reasonable to assume he dreamed of being weaker than he is now.
More evidence points to Dream Saitama being nerfed than the Dream Subterraneans being strong. Again, the official video game supports this; literally nerfing Saitama to be as strong as a regular player character.
2. Saitama just wants a challenge; and we KNOW he believes he’s “too strong”, so it’s reasonable to assume he dreamed of being weaker than he is now.
More evidence points to Dream Saitama being nerfed than the Dream Subterraneans being strong. Again, the official video game supports this; literally nerfing Saitama to be as strong as a regular player character.
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1. Saitama would likely care more about him receiving damage then how far he gets sent flying.
2. Well, one could also argue that for the dream to be plausible for Saitama he shouldn't actually feel weaker than usual. It's not like as if the dream has a different setting than his usual life aside from the attack of the Subterraneans so for him everything should be the same as alway aside from the Subterranean attack.
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Does anyone have the link to the post explaining why Boros' attack referred to '' scraping '' the land?
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I don't have an explanation but I have the link to a manga panel that has Boros explicitly refer to the Earth's surface
