Could you calc Lancer falling off the castle? It'd scale to most of Chapter 1 characters and perhaps make current calcs less of an outlier
That'd be a bit difficult to do since we'd need to find the height of the castle to get anything out of it, but I guess it can be done to support Ralsei's feat if it's not too low. If you wanted to, you could also further support it with the fact that Kris and Susie fall into the Dark World without being harmed at all (which is something they consistently do but it'd mostly be relevant for Chapter 1 scaling).
Seems to be cellphone "waves", likely sound-based though
This is high enough where air resistance would play a part on it, but still, I can probably pixelscale to find the height of the castle. Someone else has to calc it though, I have no idea how to calc a fall.
It's a canon power. I don't currently have scans but a monster in chapter 2 mentions SAVEs briefly, and more importantly queen mentions determination. Sorry about the double post but I'm on mobile and for some reason it's not letting me edit
Ralsei outright mentions SAVING to Kris when you return to Castle Town after defeating Queen:
Kris' name also appears on the save files when SAVING in both Chapter 1 and Chapter 2 for the first time. Notably, at the first SAVE point, the game states that Kris reaches out to the light by second nature, implying that they've SAVED often:
So I think it's fair to say that Kris can SAVE, even if they aren't the one doing it for most of the game.
I already addressed that, this proves nothing.
It doesn't say "Kris", it says "You", and just like an infinite amount of Undertale references you can make as the anomaly, this is one of them. It's second nature to the PLAYER, not Kris'
They have no registred SAVE File and there's no save point on the overworld, so this is headcanon.
No, you addressed chapter 1. The fact that the chapter 1 save is overwritten by Kris's save in chapter 2 means that Kris can save
No? SAVING is the Player's abilities, not Kris'.
It doesn't.
That is still a ability that kris have when possesed, like how some characters get abilities when posesed
It's the Anomaly's abilities when it has a vessel. I said they shouldn't have it on their own. Can you please read my point?
Shouldnt they have it like Time manipulation when possesed or something like that.
That's literally what I'm saying, it should be removed from their profile as their own power and specified as "the anomaly's power"
It is a little weird that the calc says:Does this scan (which is said when you don't punch Queen's final attack) invalidate the Low 7-C calc?
It wasn't really on fire, I guess. It was the same aura she had when she created the ball, so it's likely just "ki" ou "energy/aura", not actual fire.
It's clearly an aura, very similar to typical Dragon Ball Chi, "Mach 5" is only assumed due to the fact the aura is assumed to be fire, but we have little reason to believe so. While our calcs give us Subsonic to Transonic results, Toby is hardly trying to imply any of his characters have slow motion-hypersonic perception, so when he makes a character have a dialogue that says "extremely slow moving", he is communicating to the viewer, that it is, in fact, slow moving. So no, I don't believe Mach 5 is "slow moving" for them, as we have very little reason to believe it is Mach 5 in the first place.
So, your stance is that it's not Fire, it's Aura, & the giant baseball was not lit on fire from being launched at Mach 5, but rather, it is showing Aura from Queen (Presumably from when she telekinetically(?) launched it via swinging her Battery Acid Glass.) &, as she says, moving extremely slowly?
Yeah, it's flickering in multiple different colors, and again, this kind of aura has also appeared on herself for no apparent reason, plus the dialogue is a very strong counter for the fire interpretation as well, as it is clearly not fabricated from speed, and therefore should have little influence on the calculation itself.
Playing Devil's Advocate, isn't fire often depicted as flickering in multiple different colours?
Fair.
Well, the fact that it means the assumption of Mach 5 for the projectile speed (If it didn't actually catch on fire, no assuming catching flame by speed.) is invalid does mean a new method of determining speed would be needed.
For what it's worth, I'm glad for your enthusiasm.
Usually this is not the case, unless it has reason to. Fire is usually depicted as orange/redish, with vibrant colors, while the ball had light aura-like "flames" around it
We should likely use the Inertia or Rotation Kinetic Energy formula, as this is what's used to calculate real-life baseballs when they are hit by a bat. It doesn't require an assumed speed, and will likely still bring us to relevant results.
Fair enough.
Unsure if Queen swinging her Battery Acid Glass to launch the ball without touching it, or the Thrash Machine hitting the ball with an uppercut are similar enough to a baseball bat. 'course, given my own uncertainty, I ain't gonna say you're going about this the wrong way.
Fair enough. Good luck with whatever it is you do!
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but, the ball seems to be rotating. Rotation Kinetic Energy would probably still work even if she did it through unknown means.
I did not notice it, actually. I’ll go correct it later when I have the time.Does this scan (which is said when you don't punch Queen's final attack) invalidate the Low 7-C calc?
Glad you notified us. Although, it may be good to be sure that it's corrected in a way that other members don't object to.
You plan to calc it for both Rotational Kinetic Energy & regular Kinetic Energy?
It's not.
This is precisely why the previous point is not fair. This creates blantant circular scaling
He is notably weaker than Spamton NEO on his own.
I do agree that the unused recruit profile should probably be ignored; If it was not included in canon, it likely was purposefully made not canon. Without reason to assume it was excluded by accident, I don't think we can assume it was accidentally excluded.
I think there's a problem with this.
