SPN S13 Finale

[Aceraspire]

SPOILERS ahead

SO in finale,Lucifer consumed Jack's grace and became"super-charged" - Michael said that Lucifer now could end entire universe if he wanted that,which is not far fetched.

Also Dean said yes to Michael,and by doing that Michael become much more powerful in Dean's body,but Lucifer still was stronger,in fact Lucifer was going to kill Michael without archangel blade

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Jack was stated to have Universal power at least 3X... So this isn't exactly something that wasn't stated prior.

So an upgrade to Lucifer I'm asuming ?

 

[Volundox]

It would be a new key for lucifer and a universal rating for jack.

Lucifer also took jack's power with the intention of becoming the new God and makes mention about how he wants to remake the universe in his image but never actually does it so possibly universal seems more realistic.

Should new keys also be made for lucifer and gabriel for when they lost some of their grace and became weaker? Gabriel was so much weaker its suggested he couldn't kill lucifer even with the archangel blade, and he also ran from an angel kill squad.

Apocalypse michael doesn't anything to put him higher than high-6a that i can remember.

 

[LordAnomanderRake]

Supercharged Lucifer should be possibly 3-B I think, or sth close to that.

Now, Michael possessing Dean should come quite close as well.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I would think 3-A if he all of Jack's power.

 

[ByAsura]

Here's the direct quote if anyone wants context.

Michael (AP world) - "After consuming the Nephilim's (Jack's) grace, Lucifer is... juiced up, he's supercharged. He'll kill the boy, your brother (Sam)... hell, he could end the whole Universe if he put his mind to it.

Michael then says "This is the end of everything".

But i think it's more reality warping destruction than destructive capability.

 

[Volundox]

Its frustratingly vague since we know Lucifer was trying to become God and remake the universe in his image, but outside universal statements regarding Jack's power there is no solid evidence.

Michael has no feats outside killing his universe's Lucifer. He beat the main timeline Lucifer and Gabriel while they were both in a heavily weakened state, Gabriel more so than Lucifer, and got handily beat by amped Lucifer only being killed by the archangel blade, one of the only things capable of killing him.

The issue is its suggested that even the archangel blade wont work unless the angel is comparable in power, since Lucifer taunts Gabriel as being too weak to kill him even with the blade. If this is true that would be the only justification for Michael with dean scaling to amped Lucifer.

 

[Jean_Pierre_kurosaki]

Michael was stated to be more powerful than our timeline's Michael who was already above Lucifer.

Since Lucifer said he could re-create the universe from 7 to 10 days, depending on how you interpretate it, that's Multi-Galaxy to Universal.

 

[Aizenishere]

When the word "universe" is thrown around in Supernatural it tends to mean universe. It's not a series that often lowballs/overestimates its own capabilities

 

[Legion350]

Bump

 

[Smariusx99]

I agree for upgrade

 

[Nico-v11]

From my understanding Mat and Ever are planning major revisions to the Supernatural verse so we should wait till they have their revisions ready