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Spider-Man No Way Home Revision: AP, Speed, and everything we didn't cover before (SPOILERS)

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Lacku said:
also since we havent updated mcu spideys profile yet I found some extra renders we could use for the black and gold key (sorry about the large image size)
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spider_man__black_gold___nwh_png2_by_iwasboredsoididthis_deou2c8-pre.png
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We already have an adequate render in the other thread
 
Oh
(3.45346 + 6.5563068833652 + 3.4621406309751 + 3.3790815487572 + 3.5644508604207 + 3.5608715105163 + 3.3790815487572 + 3.2971043977055 + 3.6398247609943 + 3.8316008604207 + 3.6205313575526 + 4.6974011472275 + 4.5507433078394 + 6.8213498087954 + 5.4575836520076 + 8.2192152963671 + 9.3334526768642 + 9.2625504780115 + 8.602836042065 + 7.9125091778203 + 8.8125350860421 + 10.026596271511 + 8.3652149139579 + 10.207762332696 + 11.360151434034 + 10.836426768642 + 9.0476466539197 + 3.2710405353728 + 3.90004283 + 2.315969024857 + 1.72541414914 + 1.273780879541 + 1.281295219885 + 1.803396080306 + 2.5522772466539 + 1.252390057361 + 1.214495889101 + 1.242880592734 + 1.179276481836 + 0.8754259082218 + 0.123098948375 + 0.110604684512 + 0.113079923518 + 0.0545043021033 + 0.0555659655832 + 0.109075525813 + 0.0770368068834 + 0.0519249521989 + 0.103490917782 + 1.512200286807 + 0.8785406309751 + 0.2446003824092 + 1.359782982792 + 1.998597036329 + 1.973671797323 + 1.860385181644 + 1.970180783939 + 1.951185564054 + 2.037263001912 + 1.969667399618 + 2.185283460803 + 1.322180975143 + 1.262190057361 + 1.404259847036 + 0.3196179732314 + 0.0316298279159 + 0.011482695985 + 0.0534114722753 + 0.0457835564054 + 0.0447854684512 + 0.141130592734 + 0.3992391969407 + 0.3845274378585 + 0.378369789675 + 1.337434130019 + 0.491397418738 + 0.5500692160612 + 0.7305153919694) / 80 =

Mean2.9332548703263 Tons of TNT (High 8-C)
Median1.831890630975 Tons of TNT (8-C+)
Mode3.3790815487572 Tons of TNT
Minimum0.011482695985
Maximum11.360151434034
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Oh
(3.45346 + 6.5563068833652 + 3.4621406309751 + 3.3790815487572 + 3.5644508604207 + 3.5608715105163 + 3.3790815487572 + 3.2971043977055 + 3.6398247609943 + 3.8316008604207 + 3.6205313575526 + 4.6974011472275 + 4.5507433078394 + 6.8213498087954 + 5.4575836520076 + 8.2192152963671 + 9.3334526768642 + 9.2625504780115 + 8.602836042065 + 7.9125091778203 + 8.8125350860421 + 10.026596271511 + 8.3652149139579 + 10.207762332696 + 11.360151434034 + 10.836426768642 + 9.0476466539197 + 3.2710405353728 + 3.90004283 + 2.315969024857 + 1.72541414914 + 1.273780879541 + 1.281295219885 + 1.803396080306 + 2.5522772466539 + 1.252390057361 + 1.214495889101 + 1.242880592734 + 1.179276481836 + 0.8754259082218 + 0.123098948375 + 0.110604684512 + 0.113079923518 + 0.0545043021033 + 0.0555659655832 + 0.109075525813 + 0.0770368068834 + 0.0519249521989 + 0.103490917782 + 1.512200286807 + 0.8785406309751 + 0.2446003824092 + 1.359782982792 + 1.998597036329 + 1.973671797323 + 1.860385181644 + 1.970180783939 + 1.951185564054 + 2.037263001912 + 1.969667399618 + 2.185283460803 + 1.322180975143 + 1.262190057361 + 1.404259847036 + 0.3196179732314 + 0.0316298279159 + 0.011482695985 + 0.0534114722753 + 0.0457835564054 + 0.0447854684512 + 0.141130592734 + 0.3992391969407 + 0.3845274378585 + 0.378369789675 + 1.337434130019 + 0.491397418738 + 0.5500692160612 + 0.7305153919694) / 80 =

Mean2.9332548703263 Tons of TNT (High 8-C)
Median1.831890630975 Tons of TNT (8-C+)
Mode3.3790815487572 Tons of TNT
Minimum0.011482695985
Maximum11.360151434034
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Hot damn, how'd you get it so fast

Wait, you forgot the 4 8-B values. Highest is 13.6 tons of TNT.

Ah shit, you have to replace your current values with the new ones from here, since the old values are now inaccurate.
 
Glad to see the editorials are underway at last (assuming they've unlocked them as of now)!
Well done everyone I wish you all the best in the new year 😀
 
Vizer04 said:
Wait a minute, how the f*ck is Electro High 8-C??? Didn't he "died" in TASM2 for absorbing too much electricity (i remember being a calc for that being 8-C or something, i'm not really sure)
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That actually wielded 8-B, 45.56 tons of TNT according to the imgur calc which did the mega-ampere value justice and lasted two seconds, far higher than anything I found out.

My calc has the voltages fluctuate from 9-A all the way to 8-C to High 8-C+, and then the 8-B value in Kafka's experimentation scene where he's more or less fine and safely harboring his power without overloading to death. Here, they all last 0.04 seconds approximately.
 
KLOL506 said:
Ah shit, you have to replace your current values with the new ones from here.
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I thought it was to easy.

(3.2781534416826 + 2.9400325047801 + 2.7600764818356 + 2.7335873804971 + 2.6310818355641 + 3.0566412045889 + 4.1112061185468 + 4.9215567877629 + 4.6317404397706 + 4.7922495219885 + 4.3765772466539 + 5.4575836520076 + 4.146017208413 + 4.7101766730402 + 6.4408680688337 + 8.7658858508604 + 9.9587203632887 + 9.9468250478011 + 9.3580154875717 + 8.317460707457 + 7.7650498087954 + 7.9771497131931 + 8.7670208413002 + 10.29477418738 + 11.144455449331 + 13.317134512428 + 13.607445889101 + 12.34107456979 + 9.8356772466539 + 7.7251009560229 + 6.5306738049713 + 2.8602367112811 + 1.738778202677 + 1.455258891013 + 1.652235564054 + 1.884649713193 + 1.714787762906 + 1.457770745698 + 1.168581739962 + 0.96555 + 0.6361663479924 + 0.357784416826 + 0.193441204589 + 0.107419216061 + 0.0735128107075 + 0.0534781070746 + 0.0370393881453 + 0.0282837476099 + 0.039173040153 + 0.0770301147228 + 0.157480879541 + 0.215304206501 + 0.700275334608 + 0.5533370936902 + 0.89987208413 + 1.075694072658 + 1.469284894837 + 2.044262141491 + 2.066954110899 + 1.85889751434 + 2.067177820268 + 2.205647036329 + 2.047513575526 + 1.84448374761 + 1.591147609943 + 1.573677342256 + 1.693023900574 + 0.2627854684512 + 0.140110325048 + 0.0617599426386 + 0.016695984704 + 0.012115487572 + 0.0168 + 0.0494256214149 + 0.186821414914 + 0.3141835564054 + 0.3887248565966 + 0.491397418738 + 0.5500692160612 + 0.7305153919694 ) / 80 =
Mean3.2553328597036 Tons of TNT (High 8-C)
Median1.7916309751435 Tons of TNT (8-C+)
ModeNo matching number sets
Minimum0.012115487572
Maximum13.607445889101
Mean (without outliers)2.8722204390256 Tons of TNT (High 8-C)
Medium (without outliers)1.714787762906 Tons of TNT (8-C+)
 
Qawsedf234 said:
I thought it was to easy.

(3.2781534416826 + 2.9400325047801 + 2.7600764818356 + 2.7335873804971 + 2.6310818355641 + 3.0566412045889 + 4.1112061185468 + 4.9215567877629 + 4.6317404397706 + 4.7922495219885 + 4.3765772466539 + 5.4575836520076 + 4.146017208413 + 4.7101766730402 + 6.4408680688337 + 8.7658858508604 + 9.9587203632887 + 9.9468250478011 + 9.3580154875717 + 8.317460707457 + 7.7650498087954 + 7.9771497131931 + 8.7670208413002 + 10.29477418738 + 11.144455449331 + 13.317134512428 + 13.607445889101 + 12.34107456979 + 9.8356772466539 + 7.7251009560229 + 6.5306738049713 + 2.8602367112811 + 1.738778202677 + 1.455258891013 + 1.652235564054 + 1.884649713193 + 1.714787762906 + 1.457770745698 + 1.168581739962 + 0.96555 + 0.6361663479924 + 0.357784416826 + 0.193441204589 + 0.107419216061 + 0.0735128107075 + 0.0534781070746 + 0.0370393881453 + 0.0282837476099 + 0.039173040153 + 0.0770301147228 + 0.157480879541 + 0.215304206501 + 0.700275334608 + 0.5533370936902 + 0.89987208413 + 1.075694072658 + 1.469284894837 + 2.044262141491 + 2.066954110899 + 1.85889751434 + 2.067177820268 + 2.205647036329 + 2.047513575526 + 1.84448374761 + 1.591147609943 + 1.573677342256 + 1.693023900574 + 0.2627854684512 + 0.140110325048 + 0.0617599426386 + 0.016695984704 + 0.012115487572 + 0.0168 + 0.0494256214149 + 0.186821414914 + 0.3141835564054 + 0.3887248565966 + 0.491397418738 + 0.5500692160612 + 0.7305153919694 ) / 80 =
Mean3.2553328597036 Tons of TNT (High 8-C)
Median1.7916309751435 Tons of TNT (8-C+)
ModeNo matching number sets
Minimum0.012115487572
Maximum13.607445889101
Mean (without outliers)2.8722204390256 Tons of TNT (High 8-C)
Medium (without outliers)1.714787762906 Tons of TNT (8-C+)
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Aight, so mean's higher this time and median's lower, but Modes effectively get nuked due to the sheer number of values and their variation.
 
KLOL506 said:
Prolly might require a bit more debate but if it goes through, maybe.
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More debate for Raimi and MCU Spidey, but I don't see why TASM Spidey shouldn't scale considering he fought an Electro that was actively trying to kill him. He only couldn't do anything against the maximum output 8-B Electro, which makes sense.
 
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Sir_Marvulous said:
More debate for Raimi and MCU Spidey, but I don't see why TASM Spidey shouldn't scale considering he fought an Electro that was actively trying to kill him.
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Not quite since they’re all equal in power. The argument would have to be for all of them

Anyhow yeah, we’re save 8-C+ for another thread with LS
 
Lonkitt said:
Not quite since they’re all equal in power. The argument would have to be for all of them

Anyhow yeah, we’re save 8-C+ for another thread with LS
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Why would scaling from two other different continuities take precedence over feats from TASM Spidey's native universe?
 
I’m not saying they are. Just that if TASM Peter is 8-C+, the other Peters are
 
If we use the median results of 8-C+, Spider-Man could downscale from that a decent amount and still be 8-C+, as the midpoint for 8-C is 1.125 tons. If we scale the Spider-Men directly to the median instead, that would likely put characters that upscale from them at baseline High 8-C, considering baseline High 8-C is within less than a 1.2 increase of either median result given. Anything above 8-C+ for the Spider-Men is probably trickier to argue for without supporting feats.

On the subject of LS, I found someone on Comic Vine who attempted to calc the Far From Home tower feat, and while I'm not sure how accurate it is, I figure it might at least help someone else calc it more accurately.
 
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Dinobot1996 said:
If we use the median results of 8-C+, Spider-Man could downscale from that a decent amount and still be 8-C+, as the midpoint for 8-C is 1.125 tons. If we scale the Spider-Men directly to the median instead, that would likely put characters that upscale from them at baseline High 8-C, considering baseline High 8-C is within less than a 1.2 increase of either median result given. Anything above 8-C+ for the Spider-Men is probably trickier to argue for without supporting feats.

On the subject of LS, I found someone on Comic Vine who attempted to calc the Far From Home tower feat, and while I'm not sure how accurate it is, I figure it might at least help someone else calc it more accurately.
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Calc looks straightforward enough.
 
Actually, I pixel-scaled the Santa Maria Formosa, and the width is way off. Google maps tells me the width of the tower is roughly 5.5 m at the base. 5 m width for the main core of the tower.
 
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